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XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
February 21 2013 22:10 GMT
#21
Dude freaking if you want A, go for her! Don't let none of this "no dating" bullshit stop you.

I have high expectations for you.
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
February 22 2013 01:15 GMT
#22
On February 21 2013 23:37 ThePhan2m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 22:50 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 21 2013 18:10 ThePhan2m wrote:
Dont rush with sex, never gets you anywere but a failed relationship. If you believe the "Nofap" had effect on you, sex will definitly not make a much other difference than faping I think. Focus on building the attraction on other factors than sex to early.

Sex, early and often imo. Even if a girl doesn't like you that much initially, if you sleep with her she'll often justify it to herself as 'I must really like this guy' rather than thinking 'wow, i'm so easy'. My more successful relationships have all started with getting the physical side/tension out of the way early before awkwardness sets in.


Well, if there has been many "more successful relationships", they werent really successful at all since I assume they are non-existant now? The fewer the relationships, the better. Dont get controlled by your dick, but control your dick. It's easy to excuse the lack of control with saying that sex is good always.

The fewer the relationships, the better. LOL. It's not about being controlled by my dick, it's called not being a prude and realizing sex isn't actually that big a deal and is enjoyable for both parties. By 'more successful' I meant 'longer lasting' and my current 3 year one started with sleeping together on the 2nd date. So yeah, what you said about how early sex 'never gets you anywere but a failed relationship' is just naive bullshit. Abstinence isn't a virtue, it's just a choice. Self control is good in some areas (don't eat too much cake, don't gamble/drink too much) but consensual sex early in a relationship is not necessarily a problem.
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RussianWarHero
Profile Joined February 2013
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 04:10:27
February 22 2013 04:09 GMT
#23
Tips ? STOP BEING SO FUCKIN BETA!!!!

Every paragraph I read made me cringe. Dude you seriously need to get some thug in you.
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
February 22 2013 05:41 GMT
#24
On February 22 2013 06:58 SamsungStar wrote:
lol /facepalm. "I'm going to be physical as shit tonight and go in for a kiss." I don't mean to be harsh but jesus christ. I guess some people mature on a totally different timeline. You've been masturbating for how many years now?? Honestly, you've been ready for sex since the first few times you busted a nut. There's nothing to rush! Cat's been out the bag homie! Fuck her if she wants to fuck. If she doesn't, do whatever else you are interested in doing. Remember, women like to be desired. Unless she's really prude, a chaste kiss is the least of her fantasies.

Don't try to tell yourself you're being a gentleman or some shit. Women don't like gentlemen unless they're holding doors, paying for dinners, and buying her Louboutins. When it comes to sex, women like rabid animals who tear their clothes off and muss up their hair. I can't even begin to say how many times a girl has out of nowhere just said early on in a date "I'm not going to have sex with you" and then by the end of the night sure enough I'm creeping out the bedroom closing the door softly behind me.

To be fair, there are different schools of seduction I guess, but I'm not a big fan of the whole sweet and kind thing. Funny, charming, tender, yes, but once she's having a good time, I say just go gorilla and maul her. Let your instincts take over. Do NOT think about how inexperienced you are. The mating ritual is something even fire ants can do. It is not complex.



Probably the best piece of advice I've ever heard... haha. Not even kidding either.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 08:33:39
February 22 2013 08:31 GMT
#25
I think bigtony's advice with regard to self-improvement sounds good. Make it about youself until you find a person with whom you want to be for the rest of your life and everything; until then don't worry about that. I've had a lot of friends just get dead-set on some girl or another and it's sort of weird to see, especially if the girls just aren't that into them for one reason or another. Be yourself, not someone you think a girl would like. Self-improvement is definitely very good: do it for yourself, not to attract some specific girl.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
February 22 2013 15:21 GMT
#26
On February 21 2013 18:10 ThePhan2m wrote:
Dont rush with sex, never gets you anywere but a failed relationship. If you believe the "Nofap" had effect on you, sex will definitly not make a much other difference than faping I think. Focus on building the attraction on other factors than sex to early.

you're probably doing it wrong if sleeping with a girl ruins your relationships
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6271 Posts
February 22 2013 17:40 GMT
#27
On February 22 2013 14:41 hoby2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 06:58 SamsungStar wrote:
lol /facepalm. "I'm going to be physical as shit tonight and go in for a kiss." I don't mean to be harsh but jesus christ. I guess some people mature on a totally different timeline. You've been masturbating for how many years now?? Honestly, you've been ready for sex since the first few times you busted a nut. There's nothing to rush! Cat's been out the bag homie! Fuck her if she wants to fuck. If she doesn't, do whatever else you are interested in doing. Remember, women like to be desired. Unless she's really prude, a chaste kiss is the least of her fantasies.

Don't try to tell yourself you're being a gentleman or some shit. Women don't like gentlemen unless they're holding doors, paying for dinners, and buying her Louboutins. When it comes to sex, women like rabid animals who tear their clothes off and muss up their hair. I can't even begin to say how many times a girl has out of nowhere just said early on in a date "I'm not going to have sex with you" and then by the end of the night sure enough I'm creeping out the bedroom closing the door softly behind me.

To be fair, there are different schools of seduction I guess, but I'm not a big fan of the whole sweet and kind thing. Funny, charming, tender, yes, but once she's having a good time, I say just go gorilla and maul her. Let your instincts take over. Do NOT think about how inexperienced you are. The mating ritual is something even fire ants can do. It is not complex.



Probably the best piece of advice I've ever heard... haha. Not even kidding either.


Samsungstar is usually spot on and his comments are as good as the girl threads/blogs themselves. :D
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
February 22 2013 19:02 GMT
#28
On February 22 2013 10:15 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 23:37 ThePhan2m wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:50 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 21 2013 18:10 ThePhan2m wrote:
Dont rush with sex, never gets you anywere but a failed relationship. If you believe the "Nofap" had effect on you, sex will definitly not make a much other difference than faping I think. Focus on building the attraction on other factors than sex to early.

Sex, early and often imo. Even if a girl doesn't like you that much initially, if you sleep with her she'll often justify it to herself as 'I must really like this guy' rather than thinking 'wow, i'm so easy'. My more successful relationships have all started with getting the physical side/tension out of the way early before awkwardness sets in.


Well, if there has been many "more successful relationships", they werent really successful at all since I assume they are non-existant now? The fewer the relationships, the better. Dont get controlled by your dick, but control your dick. It's easy to excuse the lack of control with saying that sex is good always.

The fewer the relationships, the better. LOL. It's not about being controlled by my dick, it's called not being a prude and realizing sex isn't actually that big a deal and is enjoyable for both parties. By 'more successful' I meant 'longer lasting' and my current 3 year one started with sleeping together on the 2nd date. So yeah, what you said about how early sex 'never gets you anywere but a failed relationship' is just naive bullshit. Abstinence isn't a virtue, it's just a choice. Self control is good in some areas (don't eat too much cake, don't gamble/drink too much) but consensual sex early in a relationship is not necessarily a problem.


Really, where has the morals gone in this world if you don't think it is better to have few relationships, or stick to one person for the rest of your life is better than jump from one to the next? It can be enjoyable, yes, but doesnt mean is morally right or better for your own personal inner life or in relation to other people and how many scars you actually end up dealing to other women and yourself. Drugs and alcholol can be enjoyable as well, until you end up doing something really stupid that leads to either damage on you or others or ruining your life in some way. I would say sex is pretty much the same, just in a less visible sense. Just look up the shady sides of both sex sale and the porn industry.

Tell me with good arguments why it isn't a problem? And "it feels right or feel good" isnt good enough. There are plenty of good arguments why starting of a relationship with to much sex isnt good, and how your former sexual relations or realationships will affect the current relationship in more bad ways than good ways.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
February 22 2013 19:20 GMT
#29
this dude just compared having sex too early to the porn industry and sex sale industry LOL

the only way your past negatively effects your current relationship is if you're still involved with your past in some fashion, or the other half of your current relationship is emotionally retarded
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isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 19:33:29
February 22 2013 19:33 GMT
#30
On February 23 2013 04:02 ThePhan2m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 10:15 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 21 2013 23:37 ThePhan2m wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:50 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 21 2013 18:10 ThePhan2m wrote:
Dont rush with sex, never gets you anywere but a failed relationship. If you believe the "Nofap" had effect on you, sex will definitly not make a much other difference than faping I think. Focus on building the attraction on other factors than sex to early.

Sex, early and often imo. Even if a girl doesn't like you that much initially, if you sleep with her she'll often justify it to herself as 'I must really like this guy' rather than thinking 'wow, i'm so easy'. My more successful relationships have all started with getting the physical side/tension out of the way early before awkwardness sets in.


Well, if there has been many "more successful relationships", they werent really successful at all since I assume they are non-existant now? The fewer the relationships, the better. Dont get controlled by your dick, but control your dick. It's easy to excuse the lack of control with saying that sex is good always.

The fewer the relationships, the better. LOL. It's not about being controlled by my dick, it's called not being a prude and realizing sex isn't actually that big a deal and is enjoyable for both parties. By 'more successful' I meant 'longer lasting' and my current 3 year one started with sleeping together on the 2nd date. So yeah, what you said about how early sex 'never gets you anywere but a failed relationship' is just naive bullshit. Abstinence isn't a virtue, it's just a choice. Self control is good in some areas (don't eat too much cake, don't gamble/drink too much) but consensual sex early in a relationship is not necessarily a problem.


Really, where has the morals gone in this world if you don't think it is better to have few relationships, or stick to one person for the rest of your life is better than jump from one to the next? It can be enjoyable, yes, but doesnt mean is morally right or better for your own personal inner life or in relation to other people and how many scars you actually end up dealing to other women and yourself. Drugs and alcholol can be enjoyable as well, until you end up doing something really stupid that leads to either damage on you or others or ruining your life in some way. I would say sex is pretty much the same, just in a less visible sense. Just look up the shady sides of both sex sale and the porn industry.

Tell me with good arguments why it isn't a problem? And "it feels right or feel good" isnt good enough. There are plenty of good arguments why starting of a relationship with to much sex isnt good, and how your former sexual relations or realationships will affect the current relationship in more bad ways than good ways.


this is just about people having consensual sex right away early on in there relationship / only having sex. unless you are infecting a lot of people with STDs(in which case i would agree with you. but you didnt mean that i think) i dont see that ever "scarring people" or being "immoral" in the slightest. and where did the "sex sale" and "porn industry" suddenly come from that has nothing to do with this whatsoever

E: someone was faster
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
February 22 2013 20:31 GMT
#31
On February 23 2013 04:33 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 04:02 ThePhan2m wrote:
On February 22 2013 10:15 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 21 2013 23:37 ThePhan2m wrote:
On February 21 2013 22:50 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 21 2013 18:10 ThePhan2m wrote:
Dont rush with sex, never gets you anywere but a failed relationship. If you believe the "Nofap" had effect on you, sex will definitly not make a much other difference than faping I think. Focus on building the attraction on other factors than sex to early.

Sex, early and often imo. Even if a girl doesn't like you that much initially, if you sleep with her she'll often justify it to herself as 'I must really like this guy' rather than thinking 'wow, i'm so easy'. My more successful relationships have all started with getting the physical side/tension out of the way early before awkwardness sets in.


Well, if there has been many "more successful relationships", they werent really successful at all since I assume they are non-existant now? The fewer the relationships, the better. Dont get controlled by your dick, but control your dick. It's easy to excuse the lack of control with saying that sex is good always.

The fewer the relationships, the better. LOL. It's not about being controlled by my dick, it's called not being a prude and realizing sex isn't actually that big a deal and is enjoyable for both parties. By 'more successful' I meant 'longer lasting' and my current 3 year one started with sleeping together on the 2nd date. So yeah, what you said about how early sex 'never gets you anywere but a failed relationship' is just naive bullshit. Abstinence isn't a virtue, it's just a choice. Self control is good in some areas (don't eat too much cake, don't gamble/drink too much) but consensual sex early in a relationship is not necessarily a problem.


Really, where has the morals gone in this world if you don't think it is better to have few relationships, or stick to one person for the rest of your life is better than jump from one to the next? It can be enjoyable, yes, but doesnt mean is morally right or better for your own personal inner life or in relation to other people and how many scars you actually end up dealing to other women and yourself. Drugs and alcholol can be enjoyable as well, until you end up doing something really stupid that leads to either damage on you or others or ruining your life in some way. I would say sex is pretty much the same, just in a less visible sense. Just look up the shady sides of both sex sale and the porn industry.

Tell me with good arguments why it isn't a problem? And "it feels right or feel good" isnt good enough. There are plenty of good arguments why starting of a relationship with to much sex isnt good, and how your former sexual relations or realationships will affect the current relationship in more bad ways than good ways.


this is just about people having consensual sex right away early on in there relationship / only having sex. unless you are infecting a lot of people with STDs(in which case i would agree with you. but you didnt mean that i think) i dont see that ever "scarring people" or being "immoral" in the slightest. and where did the "sex sale" and "porn industry" suddenly come from that has nothing to do with this whatsoever

E: someone was faster


On February 23 2013 04:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
this dude just compared having sex too early to the porn industry and sex sale industry LOL

the only way your past negatively effects your current relationship is if you're still involved with your past in some fashion, or the other half of your current relationship is emotionally retarded


QuanitcHawk, please stay off this debate if all you can do is spit on people. You show no respect to people if you can call another person emotinally retarded. Every person needs to be showed respect and dignity and to be met at their level of life, no matter who they are. Also you must understand the undelying point I'm trying to make, which obviously you have not.

This is about having sex often, without thinking about consequences of with who, how many, in what stage of a relationship & what effects it has on people.

Women are more sensitive in general than men, and to simply state a person is emotianlly retarded if they cant handle it as well as you. In a "I dont give a s*t at what you experience or feel, as long as I get what I want." kinda way. That's no way to enter a relationship. Even if it is consensual...
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
February 22 2013 20:38 GMT
#32
A lot of people are okay and in fact look for having sex early in the relationship; just as many people are against it, though. There are also people who tend to 'go with the flow', and might agree to get in the bed quite quickly but then end up regretting it. There are also people who become frustrated or disinterested if the person they are seeing doesn't pursue stronger physical contact quickly enough. This really isn't a one size fits all matter, and saying "you should have sex asap" is just as silly as saying "you shouldn't sleep with her until you get married". There's no way a random stranger on the internet would know whether it's the right time or not for you to get in the bed together, no matter how much detail on your relationship you might provide.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
February 22 2013 20:54 GMT
#33
The reason I'm staying this, is because I've read many threads on TL about TL guys who date Christian women who refuse to have sex before marriage. And this seems to be a huge problem for them. And one of them, mentioned where this woman had gone and lost her faith because of and radically different and didnt give a s*t anymore. She was changed very much from what she used to be. The other one was about a guy who met this girl and had a relationship with her after she lost her family tragically, and she got really twisted against him. (I know there are more factors here than sex, still!) How can you say in these situations, go have sex, if the other person is not fully consent with the act, even if they accept the invitation! You cannot say that it wont affect one part with "scars" within somehow. Maybe not the guy in these situations, but definitly the woman. And to say what I'm saying is utterly bulls*t is to ignore some parts of life, that you either have not seen nor experienced or you have long forgotten the pain.

There are more people in this world than you. You have to respect the bounadries and the base of the whole relationship, which is not built in a short period of time, especially if its a first one.

I believe sex to be the dessert of the relationship, not the appetizer. That's why I'm simply advising this young man to not build his relationship on something that needs a better structure outside, especailly since it seems like he is a virgin. He is in a different situation than you guys that probably had many partners. To simply say that "go have sex & enjoy" and push him into it, is inresponsible and not very consideret advice. Just because it had an effect on you, doesnt mean it will have the same effect on him.

Sorry for my typos / bad language. Also I'm sorry if I come of too strong, simply trying to make a point.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
February 22 2013 21:18 GMT
#34
you compare people who have sex early to sex workers and porn stars, and then drop a bunch of 1950s style misogynism about how women are more sensitive, emotional and men need to take extra care of them, and you want to have a conversation without 'spitting on people'....?? good grief

and yes, as for my original comment, anyone who is sane, mature and experienced in life (so probably over the age of 25 or so) will tell you that normal people who don't give a shit about your past sexual history so long as it does not have any current impact on your life; ie., stds, or you boning or trying to bone a former flame.

that isnt a thing that people in normal, healthy relationships care about. the only people who have those problems are those with major issues with jealousy and trust
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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
February 22 2013 22:32 GMT
#35
On February 23 2013 06:18 QuanticHawk wrote:
you compare people who have sex early to sex workers and porn stars, and then drop a bunch of 1950s style misogynism about how women are more sensitive, emotional and men need to take extra care of them, and you want to have a conversation without 'spitting on people'....?? good grief

and yes, as for my original comment, anyone who is sane, mature and experienced in life (so probably over the age of 25 or so) will tell you that normal people who don't give a shit about your past sexual history so long as it does not have any current impact on your life; ie., stds, or you boning or trying to bone a former flame.

that isnt a thing that people in normal, healthy relationships care about. the only people who have those problems are those with major issues with jealousy and trust

I compare the effects of sex, cuz there is one either you want it or not. To make something so intimate and private / personal to something so careless, like it is if you start early with sex with a person you just got introduce to in your life. There should be a process there before the sex, that builds true love, commitment and trust.

Yes, you are right. Past should not matter in a relationship, but it has put and inpact either you like it or not. And it will impact your current life in some way of your standards and tastes. Have you ever considered that those with major trust and jealousy issues have a reason for their behaviour? That once they gave their everything to a person they thought they could trust and was their only love and then turned out to be different. If you have been sexually active and playful with many women, it will impact your life and it will make it much easier to do it again, and that will make people HURT, than if you only stayed with that first one like you promised. And yes, I do like the past. 50s was a great time. Women do not change so easily over time either. I do think the world was a better place before when sex wasnt all over the place and you didn't have to be ashamed of beeing a virgin. Today we have put the moral standards so low. It's no excuse to say you are smarter, cuz you are older and more experienced and then suggest to younglings to follow whatever you did, as if it was the morally right thing to do. You should know better!
DauBo
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States20 Posts
February 25 2013 02:32 GMT
#36
OP here. She ended up cancelling on me for the 2-3rd time. She called me and worked things out with me but her friends are her priority right now as her excuse was that her best friend "took her keys and wouldn't let her go". We've been seeing each other in a group setting for the last 2 days with her friends/my friends and she still insists on the being single for 2 months rule.

While texting she told me that she's going on a double date, just replied with a playful have fun and tried not to fall for that shit test ._.
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
February 25 2013 04:44 GMT
#37
On February 25 2013 11:32 DauBo wrote:
OP here. She ended up cancelling on me for the 2-3rd time. She called me and worked things out with me but her friends are her priority right now as her excuse was that her best friend "took her keys and wouldn't let her go". We've been seeing each other in a group setting for the last 2 days with her friends/my friends and she still insists on the being single for 2 months rule.

While texting she told me that she's going on a double date, just replied with a playful have fun and tried not to fall for that shit test ._.


Excuse my language but fk dat hoe. Just go get other girls, dont crawl over to her, make her crawl to you. Because your a fucking zebra
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
February 25 2013 05:21 GMT
#38
sorry to lay out the cold truth.. but sounds like you are her safety net (at best).
i would actively continue to look for other girls during this period...
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Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 06:57:28
February 25 2013 06:54 GMT
#39
Don't put all of your eggs in one basket bro! She is just one girl!
DauBo
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 07:04:10
February 25 2013 07:03 GMT
#40
Thanks for all of the advice guys! I havent put too much time into her so i dont feel terrible at all calling it quits. However somethings dont add up. Shes always the one talking to me and calling me for late night chats and talks from 1am-6am and I got her to admit that she has affection for me and that she doesnt want to get too attached to me. She wants to make up for what she canceled by treating me on a date this tues which I canceled due to midterms. Its hard to really get a good grasp of what shes thinking.
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