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I find no more joy working where i work now and sincerely I hate my job. Not that i hate what i do for a living but for some time now i wonder if i shouldn't chose something else.
I work as an IT manager for a welding store, we're big around here... but our directors are so retrograde that they don't let me do nothing with my IT knowledge. I can't optimize nothing, i can't change nothing. Basically i'm an IT manager limited to solve hardware and small software problems.
When i was a child, my dream was to be a game designer but since i'm not good with math and physics instead i aimed for webdesign and then IT. Today I can program in any programming language I want and i really want to chase that old dream again but for life problems (bills, help my family) i can't leave my work right now.
I'll be able to quit in nine months but as of today i'm so depressed and stressed (it's even affecting my social life) with my work that i think 9 months is too much. What should i do? Quit and see what happens or stay and get even more depressed? Has anyone else felt this way before?
Sorry for my bad english.
   
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Why not just start looking for something new without quitting? I don't know how it works in Brazil, but in Sweden, you can apply for jobs, go to interviews etc without being unemployed, and if you find something, you quit your job and switch. Obviously, the target company needs to know that you're employed since you usually can't just quit without a few months notice, but still.
I used to hate my job as well, so I can understand how you feel, it's a terrible feeling to go to bed sunday night feeling like a complete wreck because you have a whole week of BS ahead of you. I don't think you should quit if you're in a bad spot to quit, but you need motivation to keep you going and stop you from getting depressed, starting to look for a new job might be what you need.
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I'm looking for something new but i'm on a position where i think if i leave for another job it'll be the same shit over again or it'll be bad. I live in a small town and not every company has an it department. The prospect of moving to a bigger city is there but is way too dificult right now.
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You really need to talk to your family about it. They will be the ones to support you, and answer any questions you have. Talk to your wife about how you are feeling without making too many decisions within your head at this stage. Dreaming can mess with your reality effecting the reality of thoes surrounding you, make sure they are dreaming with you too 
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Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. If you're not required to improve anything why don't you just keep shit running while studying or working on a personal project?
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I don't think its very uncommon for IT-mangers / IT support to only do the basic tasks, some call them glorified janitors. Why not just stay for a while, get some more experience (just for the résumé) and you might advance, either in the same company or a new one.
You never know where you will wind up anyway.
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On July 18 2012 21:51 maximilon wrote:You really need to talk to your family about it. They will be the ones to support you, and answer any questions you have. Talk to your wife about how you are feeling without making too many decisions within your head at this stage. Dreaming can mess with your reality effecting the reality of thoes surrounding you, make sure they are dreaming with you too 
I'm not married I live with my parents but I help my family, snice we're a middle class family so everyone has to work and help. It's not like I couldn't tell them about my issues, they would even support me, the problem is that our bills are too high atm so i can't just quit.
On July 18 2012 23:28 Osmoses wrote: Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. If you're not required to improve anything why don't you just keep shit running while studying or working on a personal project?
I work like 9 hours a day fixing small problems and easy stuff, dealing with shitty persons who don't see the possibilitys our company has. I guess i'm fed up with the small minds around here, it's depressing.
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I really suggest you look for a more meaningful job on the side. You might not be the greatest, but knowing a bunch of languages is really helpful. When your job seems like it's becoming pretty dead-end, it seems like it's a good time to look for something else.
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On July 18 2012 23:28 Osmoses wrote: Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. If you're not required to improve anything why don't you just keep shit running while studying or working on a personal project?
because doing hard work can be extremely satisfying. Sitting around doing nothing, even if you're getting paid, is mind numbing.
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you also could prepare a change in the cash-register (just an example) by yourself. when its done (not implemented into the company-system) you show it to your boss. perhaps he will see what you can do and have done there and allow you more freedom.
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Why not start on an indie game while you're still working there? It could sell if you make it for mobile, and it would add to your portfolio/resume when you apply for a job elsewhere?
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So if I'm understanding your right, you are saying you are busy but bored. That's absolutely the worst feeling in the world, and I know how you feel. Try and set yourself a goal to do in your free time. Someone suggested making an indie game, which is a great idea. Even if you don't know any java or whatever is required, it just makes it more challenging. Set yourself a goal. For instance, 'in 6 months I want to finish an indie game for the iphone', or something like that. I feel you man, and I wish you the best of luck
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On July 18 2012 21:43 Gleen wrote: I'm looking for something new but i'm on a position where i think if i leave for another job it'll be the same shit over again or it'll be bad. I live in a small town and not every company has an it department. The prospect of moving to a bigger city is there but is way too dificult right now. Thats precisely the problem here. You are stuck in a routine, and while you aren't happy, you're used to it. Its "comfortable" whereas change is complicated and/or scary. But thats what life is all about. Yeah there are risks involved, you might end up with another job which is just as unrewarding/unfun (or worse), but you might also end up with a job you love, or at a company that offers good advancements and/or relocation options.
Having taken some big career-related chances in the past few months, I can totally relate, but you have to try to look at things rationally, consider all your options and go from there. You might end up regretting and you might not. But putting off potential paths because they "might be the same or worse" will surely not improve anything.
edit: and yeah, doing some indie dev on the side is always entertaining. You can either do some solo projects or team up with other indie developers (programmers and artists). There are lots of ways to find such individuals if you are inclined to.
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On July 19 2012 01:30 9-BiT wrote:So if I'm understanding your right, you are saying you are busy but bored. That's absolutely the worst feeling in the world, and I know how you feel. Try and set yourself a goal to do in your free time. Someone suggested making an indie game, which is a great idea. Even if you don't know any java or whatever is required, it just makes it more challenging. Set yourself a goal. For instance, 'in 6 months I want to finish an indie game for the iphone', or something like that. I feel you man, and I wish you the best of luck 
YEAH, THATS IT. I'm busy but fucking bored. I don't enjoy anything i'm doing while at work and the small, free moments i have are browsing through TL and other sites. I'll do that, start an indie project and see what happens.
On July 19 2012 01:07 Gryffes wrote: Why not start on an indie game while you're still working there? It could sell if you make it for mobile, and it would add to your portfolio/resume when you apply for a job elsewhere?
Great idea man, i'll use my free time outside my work and do that. I'll be tiring but hey, at least i'm doing something i enjoy.
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Hi Glenn !
I'm exactly the same problem right now and i'm just looking for another job, but while...just waiting. If you want to take some conversation in portuguese pm me =) !
Best regards.
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just do what i've done for the last few years. work the job for money and such but in your free time start programming small simple games and branch out from there, even if you never work in the industry just making a game (even a simple one) is just so damn fun and who knows maybe eventually you'll be able to move up from that to an actual industry job
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On July 19 2012 01:37 Gleen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 01:30 9-BiT wrote:So if I'm understanding your right, you are saying you are busy but bored. That's absolutely the worst feeling in the world, and I know how you feel. Try and set yourself a goal to do in your free time. Someone suggested making an indie game, which is a great idea. Even if you don't know any java or whatever is required, it just makes it more challenging. Set yourself a goal. For instance, 'in 6 months I want to finish an indie game for the iphone', or something like that. I feel you man, and I wish you the best of luck  YEAH, THATS IT. I'm busy but fucking bored. I don't enjoy anything i'm doing while at work and the small, free moments i have are browsing through TL and other sites. I'll do that, start an indie project and see what happens. Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 01:07 Gryffes wrote: Why not start on an indie game while you're still working there? It could sell if you make it for mobile, and it would add to your portfolio/resume when you apply for a job elsewhere? Great idea man, i'll use my free time outside my work and do that. I'll be tiring but hey, at least i'm doing something i enjoy. And the thing is, you will want to complete your work faster because you want to get to your project. Only good can come of this, wish you the best of luck
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First world problems... In the developing world....
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You can program in any language??
That's pretty impressive man.
Why don't you take school correspondents and get your degree. If you have all this experience, it's a shame to not use it, and companies will recognize that. But first, you need the degree.
9 months to get out of debt and quit your job. That's tough, and long. I feel you. But 9 months can move you ahead so FAR. SO far. People get degrees in jail, on the oilfield working out of town, physically disabled, etc. You have no excuse to say no, and it'll GREATLY improve your lifestyle in the end.
Think about this man - in 3-4 years you'll look back and really hate yourself for not getting a degree or doing something to get you closer to a career, not a job.
This is coming from an Electrician who fucking hates his job more than anything in the world, but has upgraded all my core subjects so I can take psychology and get a masters some day.
I get paid close to $50 CAD an hour, but I hate my job. And my life suffers greatly because of that. I don't even have friends anymore, I'm always too moody or anti-social. Seriously, quit your job in 9 months, but don't go further than that. It'll consume you. Trust me.
Good luck.
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Why don't you just program shit on your down time? Make your own portfolio and stuff....give yourself something fun to do whilst your doing menial tasks....send that portfolio around and see if you can get a job. If your not married, and your just supporting your parents, fuck it dude. GO DO SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO!
I moved to another country, started teaching to start MY life, to get away from influence of my parents and shit. Just do IT! Never accept less than anything you want
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You lucky you have a job mate and a managerial position that doesn't take a lot of work (I assume the pay is decent since you are a manager). Lots of people would like to have your job, like me! I say just suck it up those 9 months, and in your free time at home, practice your game design if you realliy want to pursue that. I think your social life can take a break from time to time.
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On July 19 2012 05:43 Equity213 wrote: First world problems... In the developing world....
What?
This is capitalism problems, in the capitalist world.
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On July 19 2012 00:45 Bigtony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 23:28 Osmoses wrote: Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. If you're not required to improve anything why don't you just keep shit running while studying or working on a personal project? because doing hard work can be extremely satisfying. Sitting around doing nothing, even if you're getting paid, is mind numbing.
EXACTLY!
I use to actually work 10-12 hours constantly when I worked in Korea for about 4 years. My new job in Texas is so got damn slow and boring... I literally do nothing every day, but surf the web (teamliquid or any gaming/forum websites are blocked by a proxy filter) so I can only check cnn or some dumb news site.
The worst part is I get an annual performance report so how the hell will I get promoted if I haven't done shit all year... I plan on going back to Korea when I finish serving the minimum amount of time required at Texas. (2 years minimum)
I want to work a job that makes my brain function and is spontaneous. In Korea I worked with Virtual Private Networks (VPN), anti virus servers, little bit of firewalls, windows server 2000/2003/2008/NT, virtualization, little bit of blackberry, computer patching, security inspections on our network, and etc.
In Texas... I literally don't do shit. I just sit on my ass and rot my brain cells. I feel like I'm unemployed, but getting a pay check. I should be thankful to be getting paid, but it's hurting my career.
Sorry if I hijacked this thread, but I understand exactly how the OP feels. I have an associates in Information Systems, basically an IT AAS degree, but I'm now working on my bachelor's for computer science. I'd love to get into big computer projects myself.
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