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Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
July 09 2012 09:55 GMT
#21
Trying to get a build order for love is like making one for an FFA game for an RTS that in beta you've seen videoes of.
Your better off just getting pro mechanics and not giving a fuck.
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
July 09 2012 10:08 GMT
#22
My piece of advice is you don't have to be perfect. Just take some deep breaths and smile.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
July 09 2012 10:17 GMT
#23
Just man up and do it.

For reference, I basically went on a blind date to a girls house last night and I don't regret it. I coulda chickened out.

Just be yourself and be positive
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 11:38:17
July 09 2012 11:26 GMT
#24
On July 09 2012 17:20 FractalsOnFire wrote:
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On July 09 2012 15:49 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Oh and if you want to continue seeing her, ask for her number right at the end, not at the beginning. And be nonchalant about it. And be like, hey maybe we can go for coffee or something sometime. But like don't organise a date, wait a couple of days and text or call be like "hey <name> im in X area wanna go grab a coffee?", be casual about it if she says no just be like "oh that's too bad, I was really looking forward to seeing you, maybe ill organise something tomorrow and you can hang out with my friends", even if you think she's rejecting it the worse thing you can do is be sour about it.


lolol when i get a number i just text the same day/next day to try and set up a date. Works most of the time. Oh and why would you ever want her to hang out with your friends when both of you aren't serious?

Also the first video i stopped watching the moment he said 'to avoid rejection'. If anything you WANT rejection, so that you don't have to waste any more time on her. Sure it sucks but find another girl who is deserving of your time and attention. Second video was fine though, good message.

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On July 09 2012 16:33 Dirkzor wrote:
On July 09 2012 14:39 FractalsOnFire wrote:
On July 09 2012 14:25 Azzur wrote:
You mentioned rock climbing as something you do - that's already a good date idea. For a date, choose something that you're proficient at - you can "show her the ropes".


Ugh i hate dates that involve strenuous exercise or that's distracting. I usually just do something simple, coffee, dinner/lunch, a walk somewhere pleasant. The whole point of a date is to get to know one another, not show off how proficient you are at something. That's needy. Don't try to impress her, just be normal and talk like a normal person. If she rejects you so what? Nothing was probably ever going to happen whether you were trying to impress her or not.

As for your situation, personally i'd just talk normally, ask some questions and get to know her a bit. Throw a few compliments/teases. Ask her out for a 1 on 1 at another time. Party 'dates' are atrocious.


Depends. If you know her just a little and know you can talk without actually have any outside influence then a dinner is great. But if you don't know her that well or know that she is shy a date where you actually do something might be better. Gives you something to do and talk about which leads to more conversation. But I agree that you shouldn't be showing of you skills in an area - but it doesn't have to be showing of teaching someone else to rock climb.


My gripe is that dating is about getting to know one another and whether both of you fit into each other's lives. Something like rock climbing, go karting, or movies are fun but assessing relationship potential isn't really there (versus a casual meet up). Fun can always come later after the date =P



Because his friends are helping them hookup in the first place right? Makes sense to me in this situation.

Some people are the kind that are willing to get past rejection to get the girl they want. There have been a couple of times where I've been "rejected" and ended off having a better relationship than girls that have asked me out. I don't really believe in that sort of screening. The other thing is nobody wants to put themselves in a situation that will increase your chances of being rejected, when if you had been a little smarter about it, you might have ended up having a good relationship.

I usually give it a day or two just to not sound needy, but you can also text on the night if you want to, depends what sort of vibe she gives you I guess. Some people think the wait is stupid and you should text her right away, I dunno, I kind of want to avoid the "oh god this guy is gonna be really clingy" or "this guy is going too fast" judgement. What happens if she doesn't respond? Organising a date afterward is gonna be really awkward. The difference is between organising a date, and having a date kind of set up for you already taking a lot of the pressure off, and showing the girl that it isn't a big deal.

I mean think about it this way, when you ask your friends out, do you organise a trip to the cafe like its this big thing that you need to mark on your calendar, or are you like "hey I'm going to the cafe today wanna come?". Do you text friends straight away, or do you text them when something comes up?
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Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
July 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#25
To quote a family friend, "the more you think, the more you stink". He was talking about playing guitar but I think it's very applicable here XD
eSgTheBear
Profile Joined November 2011
United States47 Posts
July 09 2012 14:41 GMT
#26
Everyone suddenly became an expert.

You are asking the wrong community brother haha. If you lack the confidence now there is nothing anyone could say here that will boost that up. It will not go as "PLANNED". You are going to hype this up way too much and probably pee your pants. The best advice is that you try to forget about it and just go with the moment. It may sound cliche but over thinking it is not at all what you should be doing. Girls are not gods it really is not hard to talk to one. Don't try to be someone you aren't either...actually I'll just stop here.

Goodluck.
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matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
July 09 2012 14:48 GMT
#27
Fart in front of her. All the pressure is gone now.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 17:11:10
July 09 2012 16:45 GMT
#28
On July 09 2012 20:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 17:20 FractalsOnFire wrote:
On July 09 2012 15:49 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Oh and if you want to continue seeing her, ask for her number right at the end, not at the beginning. And be nonchalant about it. And be like, hey maybe we can go for coffee or something sometime. But like don't organise a date, wait a couple of days and text or call be like "hey <name> im in X area wanna go grab a coffee?", be casual about it if she says no just be like "oh that's too bad, I was really looking forward to seeing you, maybe ill organise something tomorrow and you can hang out with my friends", even if you think she's rejecting it the worse thing you can do is be sour about it.


lolol when i get a number i just text the same day/next day to try and set up a date. Works most of the time. Oh and why would you ever want her to hang out with your friends when both of you aren't serious?

Also the first video i stopped watching the moment he said 'to avoid rejection'. If anything you WANT rejection, so that you don't have to waste any more time on her. Sure it sucks but find another girl who is deserving of your time and attention. Second video was fine though, good message.

On July 09 2012 16:33 Dirkzor wrote:
On July 09 2012 14:39 FractalsOnFire wrote:
On July 09 2012 14:25 Azzur wrote:
You mentioned rock climbing as something you do - that's already a good date idea. For a date, choose something that you're proficient at - you can "show her the ropes".


Ugh i hate dates that involve strenuous exercise or that's distracting. I usually just do something simple, coffee, dinner/lunch, a walk somewhere pleasant. The whole point of a date is to get to know one another, not show off how proficient you are at something. That's needy. Don't try to impress her, just be normal and talk like a normal person. If she rejects you so what? Nothing was probably ever going to happen whether you were trying to impress her or not.

As for your situation, personally i'd just talk normally, ask some questions and get to know her a bit. Throw a few compliments/teases. Ask her out for a 1 on 1 at another time. Party 'dates' are atrocious.


Depends. If you know her just a little and know you can talk without actually have any outside influence then a dinner is great. But if you don't know her that well or know that she is shy a date where you actually do something might be better. Gives you something to do and talk about which leads to more conversation. But I agree that you shouldn't be showing of you skills in an area - but it doesn't have to be showing of teaching someone else to rock climb.


My gripe is that dating is about getting to know one another and whether both of you fit into each other's lives. Something like rock climbing, go karting, or movies are fun but assessing relationship potential isn't really there (versus a casual meet up). Fun can always come later after the date =P



Because his friends are helping them hookup in the first place right? Makes sense to me in this situation.

Some people are the kind that are willing to get past rejection to get the girl they want. There have been a couple of times where I've been "rejected" and ended off having a better relationship than girls that have asked me out. I don't really believe in that sort of screening. The other thing is nobody wants to put themselves in a situation that will increase your chances of being rejected, when if you had been a little smarter about it, you might have ended up having a good relationship.

I usually give it a day or two just to not sound needy, but you can also text on the night if you want to, depends what sort of vibe she gives you I guess. Some people think the wait is stupid and you should text her right away, I dunno, I kind of want to avoid the "oh god this guy is gonna be really clingy" or "this guy is going too fast" judgement. What happens if she doesn't respond? Organising a date afterward is gonna be really awkward. The difference is between organising a date, and having a date kind of set up for you already taking a lot of the pressure off, and showing the girl that it isn't a big deal.

I mean think about it this way, when you ask your friends out, do you organise a trip to the cafe like its this big thing that you need to mark on your calendar, or are you like "hey I'm going to the cafe today wanna come?". Do you text friends straight away, or do you text them when something comes up?


(I should clarify that i use needy in an insecure sense, since that's why people are needy. I think the general definition is a person who constantly pesters you and texting on the same day is definitely not needy.)

I guess? For me even if my friends were trying to set me up, i would still prefer 1 on 1 any day of the week.

What do you mean by "rejected". Is that the direct 'i'm not interested in you' or ignoring your messages? I guess if its a social circle situation, then its definitely different. I suppose i'm thinking from a cold approach mentality.

The fact that you're worried about appearing needy, is needy in itself. Being worried about her judgement about you, is needy. If she doesn't respond, that doesn't mean she rejected you or she hates your guts or thinks you're needy. Clear it up, send her a little reminder message a day or two later, then if she still doesn't respond force the issue. What i do is "Hey X i'd really like to meet up but if you don't want to that's fine. Just appreciate the courtesy of a reply to tie up loose ends". Something along those lines. If i still don't get a reply, i just forget about it. The fact of the matter is, you don't know why she didn't reply. She could be sick, she could've turned off her phone or something. Don't jump to conclusions and automatically assume the worst in her or you.

No i don't make it a big deal with friends but i definitely ask things like 'when are you free?' or if i already know i just say 'hey lets meet up at xxx, what time is good for you?'. I don't know what you mean by straight away? If i feel like doing something i ask 'hey lets do xxxx'. I like and even enjoy planning social meetings with friends.

You seem to be so concerned with what other people think of you, frankly i don't care if people think i'm needy just because i text the same day or i like to plan social gatherings. That's how i am, they can take it or leave it.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
July 09 2012 17:33 GMT
#29
On July 09 2012 14:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
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So im asking for a *plan*, a *build*, some guidelines, i know i'll have to adapt.

Here's your plan:

THERE IS NO PLAN

Plans are for people with goals and "accomplishments", you are meeting a person. It's an introduction, if you're thinking in terms following a rigid recipe (even with adaptation to the scenario), you're going to fail, you're going to be aiming too hard and you're going to give into your nervousness.

The idea of just talking is exactly that: talking. The result is whatever you feel towards the person, is she attractive. Is there something about her that interests you? Would you like to know more and just move from there. Anything else and you're just setting yourself up to be somewhere you might not necessarily be and then you'll end up comparing and that'll affect your confidence.

Don't let the idea that because your friends are setting you up to be introduced to her means 1. you must hit it off, 2. you must immediately introduce yourself. When you're ready and if she entices you, go ahead and approach her.

You're not looking to score a job and I assume you're not looking for sex. If you're looking to getting to know her more, show that by asking interesting questions and then when you hit a mutual interest or occupation, suggest you should do it sometime together.

That's really it. Wear comfortable clothes and just talk casually. Don't let these stupid social stigmatized rules dictate your behavior. There are no rules because there are no sets or types of people and even if there were, they work differently depending on the person they're interacting with, etc. In the end, if you need a confidence boost: you are at a party, get a drink.


While I agree with pretty much everything here, I'm not sure I agree with the whole "there is no plan" statement. Granted, it's stupid to walk into a social situation with the equivalent of a computer program dictating where the conversation goes of "If...then" prompts, but knowing how to break the ice and getting the first conversation going can take a lot of pressure off the social situation.

When I worked in Residence Life and other University clubs they gave us this short list:
*Where are you from?
*What are your hobbies? (or, What do you do for fun?)
*What are you studying/where do you work?

This is usually enough to fill in a 5-10 minute introduction if both parties are talking.The rest is just finding commonalities, going on tangents, and overall, just being yourself.




Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
July 09 2012 18:20 GMT
#30
If you were to meet up with another guy, would you plan for that shit? Would you be all scared to shit? Treat it like you are just meeting up with another dude. Granted, your friends arent helping by arranging you two together (this shit happens?), but try to ignore that fact, and think that you are going to a party and meeting some people.
Power of Ze
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
July 09 2012 23:59 GMT
#31
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Just dont be this guy.
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UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 00:07:22
July 10 2012 00:06 GMT
#32
On July 09 2012 14:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
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So im asking for a *plan*, a *build*, some guidelines, i know i'll have to adapt.

Here's your plan:

THERE IS NO PLAN


Goddamn it, Torte.
Why is that you ALWAYS have the right answer to everything?

Read Torte's advice, man. This dude knows what he's talking about.

Also:
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SarR
Profile Joined June 2011
476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 02:33:38
July 10 2012 02:32 GMT
#33
I don't mean this as an insult or anything but while this community has some very intelligent and talented individuals, when it comes to women, 90% of you are so clueless

Women like MEN......MEN. Its as simple as that. There is no need for all this scientific evaluations when it comes to handling women. Just be a man.....Real men are cocky bunch, unafraid of what the world thinks of them and a man who's very body language can show this quality is a true pussy magnet. This is a fact. Real men are dominating....no I don't mean to go order the poor girl about but just be you know.....in control, sturdy. Let your body language exude some kind of calm. Don't be doing no beta bullshit like fidgetting or nervously looking about the room while avoiding eye contact especially when conversing. Your conversations itself should avoid beta boy trashy mannerisms like seeking approval...."Can I call you tomorrow ?"......NO!!!!....TELL...DONT'ASK......"Look, I'm calling you tommorow, it's a little hard without your number though", and slide her your phone and do it like its done....dont do it like you're asking or pleading or hoping or any of that......I guarantee, if you worked your date well, she'll get a little flustered(thats a good thing...only men can do that) and she'll hand those digits over in a snap.

This shit is soooo easy...nothing to get nervous about.
Santa Cruz
Profile Joined July 2012
9 Posts
July 10 2012 02:40 GMT
#34
The fact is if you've already had the date organised for you - the girl is expecting you to lead. Don't be afraid to grope her 'inappropriately'. She wants you to take her to bed, otherwise she wouldn't have agreed to the hook up in the first place. A lot of guys make the mistake in putting a girl on a pedastal and always trying to make sure that she's feeling happy and comfortable, but that's not what they want (in fact, they fucking hate it when a guy tries too hard to please them) - a girl is at her happiest when you are happy. The only thing that will prevent you from getting laid with her is your own belief that she might not want it. Don't think like that, always remember: "Put your dick first."
SarR
Profile Joined June 2011
476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 02:54:19
July 10 2012 02:53 GMT
#35
On July 10 2012 11:40 Santa Cruz wrote:
The fact is if you've already had the date organised for you - the girl is expecting you to lead. Don't be afraid to grope her 'inappropriately'. She wants you to take her to bed, otherwise she wouldn't have agreed to the hook up in the first place. A lot of guys make the mistake in putting a girl on a pedastal and always trying to make sure that she's feeling happy and comfortable, but that's not what they want (in fact, they fucking hate it when a guy tries too hard to please them) - a girl is at her happiest when you are happy. The only thing that will prevent you from getting laid with her is your own belief that she might not want it. Don't think like that, always remember: "Put your dick first."


This man knows whats up....listen to him...especially what I bolded.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
July 10 2012 02:58 GMT
#36
......besides the fact that his view of her intentions is very screwed. This is pretty much a "friends make a dumb introduction" not "horny girl wants to get hooked up".
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Santa Cruz
Profile Joined July 2012
9 Posts
July 10 2012 03:13 GMT
#37
On July 10 2012 11:58 r.Evo wrote:
......besides the fact that his view of her intentions is very screwed. This is pretty much a "friends make a dumb introduction" not "horny girl wants to get hooked up".


Don't know if you're aware, but girls want to get fucked. You know that song by Cyndi Lauper? She had to change the words to make it radio friendly, but it's the truth.

It's human nature. Most guys like when they say they go to clubs because they like the music and want a night out dancing. Bullshit. They want to find a girl and lay her.

This girl is horny. She wants to hook up. She just needs to find the right man who she will be willing to open her legs for.

It's ridiculous to think that girls don't want sex, that they just want to be introduced to some guy for no other reason other than to be friendly and platonic. She has a biological clock ticking inside her and it's waiting to go off.

The ball is in the OP's court. He can either have a great night out and enjoy his time with this girl and drop her off at the end of the party - be an 'entertainer' for the night. Or he can end up being in a relationship with her and have some really great sex. It's not easy - confidence doesn't come naturally to some guys. But it's better to try and fail rather than not try at all. And what he needs to do is view her as a horny girl who wants to hook up, not as a friend, because at the end of the day he doesn't just want a friend - otherwise he wouldn't have made this girl blog.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
July 10 2012 03:21 GMT
#38
Lmao there is no plan. Anyone who is telling you, "This is what you do..." is full of shit and they don't know what they're talking about. Just be yourself, and if you over think everything in advance you'll come across as anxious and awkward. Try your best to be calm and engaging - that's it. You can't act like something you're not, it won't work, so just play the hand you've been dealt. She's probably nervous as well, so just do what every one does on a first date and try to get to know her and find common interests. This whole scientific approach people on TL take to meeting women is dumb as hell.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
July 10 2012 03:22 GMT
#39
On July 10 2012 12:13 Santa Cruz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 11:58 r.Evo wrote:
......besides the fact that his view of her intentions is very screwed. This is pretty much a "friends make a dumb introduction" not "horny girl wants to get hooked up".


Don't know if you're aware, but girls want to get fucked. You know that song by Cyndi Lauper? She had to change the words to make it radio friendly, but it's the truth.

It's human nature. Most guys like when they say they go to clubs because they like the music and want a night out dancing. Bullshit. They want to find a girl and lay her.

This girl is horny. She wants to hook up. She just needs to find the right man who she will be willing to open her legs for.

It's ridiculous to think that girls don't want sex, that they just want to be introduced to some guy for no other reason other than to be friendly and platonic. She has a biological clock ticking inside her and it's waiting to go off.

The ball is in the OP's court. He can either have a great night out and enjoy his time with this girl and drop her off at the end of the party - be an 'entertainer' for the night. Or he can end up being in a relationship with her and have some really great sex. It's not easy - confidence doesn't come naturally to some guys. But it's better to try and fail rather than not try at all. And what he needs to do is view her as a horny girl who wants to hook up, not as a friend, because at the end of the day he doesn't just want a friend - otherwise he wouldn't have made this girl blog.


You don't know shit pal. You don't know this girl at all, and if you tried this shit with someone like my fiancee you would have been shut down so fucking fast. Douchebag men get douchebag women.
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 03:26:26
July 10 2012 03:24 GMT
#40
On July 10 2012 12:13 Santa Cruz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 11:58 r.Evo wrote:
......besides the fact that his view of her intentions is very screwed. This is pretty much a "friends make a dumb introduction" not "horny girl wants to get hooked up".


Don't know if you're aware, but girls want to get fucked. You know that song by Cyndi Lauper? She had to change the words to make it radio friendly, but it's the truth.

It's human nature. Most guys like when they say they go to clubs because they like the music and want a night out dancing. Bullshit. They want to find a girl and lay her.

This girl is horny. She wants to hook up. She just needs to find the right man who she will be willing to open her legs for.

It's ridiculous to think that girls don't want sex, that they just want to be introduced to some guy for no other reason other than to be friendly and platonic. She has a biological clock ticking inside her and it's waiting to go off.

The ball is in the OP's court. He can either have a great night out and enjoy his time with this girl and drop her off at the end of the party - be an 'entertainer' for the night. Or he can end up being in a relationship with her and have some really great sex. It's not easy - confidence doesn't come naturally to some guys. But it's better to try and fail rather than not try at all. And what he needs to do is view her as a horny girl who wants to hook up, not as a friend, because at the end of the day he doesn't just want a friend - otherwise he wouldn't have made this girl blog.

Yes every girl wants to get fucked. r.Evo is aware I'm sure. But first of all, it IS a "friends make a dumb introduction" either way. Secondly, you forget to factor in the most important factor (and the only one that keeps this world from having open sex on the streets) - society's expectations. Girls have what is called bitch shields which are basically required for them for the society to view them as "normal" (ie. not a slut). I'm with you on saying girls want sex just as much as men (if not more). But it's not socially "acceptable" for them and they do as much as they can to preserve that im sure you know what i mean here. So they put up the "protection" shit. If OP has what it takes to lower those shields or whatever, Im sure good things could come of it but as it stands (judging by OP's thought process in the blog), he doesn't.
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