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On July 01 2012 20:06 Azera wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:05 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:03 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:42 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 19:36 Daozzt wrote:On July 01 2012 19:12 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 18:37 Daozzt wrote:
Even most fast food places not named McDolnalds or Burger King are pretty good (In n Out, Five Guys, Chipotle, etc.). yeah, no. i tried chipotle when i was over there because of how amazing everyone said it was and it was trash. and the whole variety thing isn't a very smart argument, don't go to the us to eat asian/south american/european food, it does exist but it'll never be as good as the real ones. Chipotle's trash? You're honestly the first person I've heard that from, online and in real life. Unless you plan on eating 30$ restaurant dinners everyday or have extremely high standards, I would not judge any country's cuisine. If you're looking for casual meals or fast food, there's no place with more variety than US for meals under <10$. There's a reason variety exists regardless of quality-- people don't enjoy eating the same shit everyday. If you go to America just to eat burgers all the time, well, I feel sorry for you. Better go to Europe where you can dine on that nice French cuisine for 30 euros a meal. i had no idea we were discussing trash "food" for college kids nvm then, my standards are apparently too high for this discussion, keep eating your delicious concentrated grease You need to learn to be good mannered. On July 01 2012 19:36 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:34 mcimba42 wrote:
i honestly haven't seen anything other than the fact that you can find tons of food from outside of america, which is not a good reason to go to america. I don't think you can read As much as I don't want to, "he started it". I'm not going to go about pandering to his non-existent capability to reason.
It's the pot calling the kettle black. If you want to stand on the moral high ground, make sure you're not guilty of the things you're criticizing him for.
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On July 01 2012 20:09 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:06 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:05 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:03 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:42 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 19:36 Daozzt wrote:On July 01 2012 19:12 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 18:37 Daozzt wrote:
Even most fast food places not named McDolnalds or Burger King are pretty good (In n Out, Five Guys, Chipotle, etc.). yeah, no. i tried chipotle when i was over there because of how amazing everyone said it was and it was trash. and the whole variety thing isn't a very smart argument, don't go to the us to eat asian/south american/european food, it does exist but it'll never be as good as the real ones. Chipotle's trash? You're honestly the first person I've heard that from, online and in real life. Unless you plan on eating 30$ restaurant dinners everyday or have extremely high standards, I would not judge any country's cuisine. If you're looking for casual meals or fast food, there's no place with more variety than US for meals under <10$. There's a reason variety exists regardless of quality-- people don't enjoy eating the same shit everyday. If you go to America just to eat burgers all the time, well, I feel sorry for you. Better go to Europe where you can dine on that nice French cuisine for 30 euros a meal. i had no idea we were discussing trash "food" for college kids nvm then, my standards are apparently too high for this discussion, keep eating your delicious concentrated grease You need to learn to be good mannered. On July 01 2012 19:36 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:34 mcimba42 wrote:
i honestly haven't seen anything other than the fact that you can find tons of food from outside of america, which is not a good reason to go to america. I don't think you can read As much as I don't want to, "he started it". I'm not going to go about pandering to his non-existent capability to reason. It's the pot calling the kettle black. If you want to stand on the moral high ground, make sure you're not guilty of the things you're criticizing him for.
Does a film critique make films? It's as dumb as whatever is floating around on Facebook nowadays "Don't judge anybody unless you're perfect." or whatever that bull is.
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On July 01 2012 20:10 Azera wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:09 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:06 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:05 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:03 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:42 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 19:36 Daozzt wrote:On July 01 2012 19:12 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 18:37 Daozzt wrote:
Even most fast food places not named McDolnalds or Burger King are pretty good (In n Out, Five Guys, Chipotle, etc.). yeah, no. i tried chipotle when i was over there because of how amazing everyone said it was and it was trash. and the whole variety thing isn't a very smart argument, don't go to the us to eat asian/south american/european food, it does exist but it'll never be as good as the real ones. Chipotle's trash? You're honestly the first person I've heard that from, online and in real life. Unless you plan on eating 30$ restaurant dinners everyday or have extremely high standards, I would not judge any country's cuisine. If you're looking for casual meals or fast food, there's no place with more variety than US for meals under <10$. There's a reason variety exists regardless of quality-- people don't enjoy eating the same shit everyday. If you go to America just to eat burgers all the time, well, I feel sorry for you. Better go to Europe where you can dine on that nice French cuisine for 30 euros a meal. i had no idea we were discussing trash "food" for college kids nvm then, my standards are apparently too high for this discussion, keep eating your delicious concentrated grease You need to learn to be good mannered. On July 01 2012 19:36 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:34 mcimba42 wrote:
i honestly haven't seen anything other than the fact that you can find tons of food from outside of america, which is not a good reason to go to america. I don't think you can read As much as I don't want to, "he started it". I'm not going to go about pandering to his non-existent capability to reason. It's the pot calling the kettle black. If you want to stand on the moral high ground, make sure you're not guilty of the things you're criticizing him for. Does a film critique make films? It's as dumb as whatever is floating around on Facebook nowadays "Don't judge anybody unless you're perfect." or whatever that bull is.
Your analogy doesn't make sense at all. Film critics and film makers are two different professions. A better analogy would be one film maker saying that another film sucks, when he has the producer of John Carter.
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On July 01 2012 20:14 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:10 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:09 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:06 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:05 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:03 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:42 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 19:36 Daozzt wrote:On July 01 2012 19:12 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 18:37 Daozzt wrote:
Even most fast food places not named McDolnalds or Burger King are pretty good (In n Out, Five Guys, Chipotle, etc.). yeah, no. i tried chipotle when i was over there because of how amazing everyone said it was and it was trash. and the whole variety thing isn't a very smart argument, don't go to the us to eat asian/south american/european food, it does exist but it'll never be as good as the real ones. Chipotle's trash? You're honestly the first person I've heard that from, online and in real life. Unless you plan on eating 30$ restaurant dinners everyday or have extremely high standards, I would not judge any country's cuisine. If you're looking for casual meals or fast food, there's no place with more variety than US for meals under <10$. There's a reason variety exists regardless of quality-- people don't enjoy eating the same shit everyday. If you go to America just to eat burgers all the time, well, I feel sorry for you. Better go to Europe where you can dine on that nice French cuisine for 30 euros a meal. i had no idea we were discussing trash "food" for college kids nvm then, my standards are apparently too high for this discussion, keep eating your delicious concentrated grease You need to learn to be good mannered. On July 01 2012 19:36 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:34 mcimba42 wrote:
i honestly haven't seen anything other than the fact that you can find tons of food from outside of america, which is not a good reason to go to america. I don't think you can read As much as I don't want to, "he started it". I'm not going to go about pandering to his non-existent capability to reason. It's the pot calling the kettle black. If you want to stand on the moral high ground, make sure you're not guilty of the things you're criticizing him for. Does a film critique make films? It's as dumb as whatever is floating around on Facebook nowadays "Don't judge anybody unless you're perfect." or whatever that bull is. Your analogy doesn't make sense at all. Film critics and film makers are two different professions. A better analogy would be one film maker saying that another film sucks, when he has the producer of John Carter.
Whatever it is, you're avoiding the main point of this argument. If anything, you're helping me show that your point was poorly thought out.
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well the grass always seems greener on the other side
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On July 01 2012 20:17 Azera wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:14 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:10 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:09 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:06 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:05 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:03 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:42 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 19:36 Daozzt wrote:On July 01 2012 19:12 mcimba42 wrote:
[quote]yeah, no. i tried chipotle when i was over there because of how amazing everyone said it was and it was trash.
and the whole variety thing isn't a very smart argument, don't go to the us to eat asian/south american/european food, it does exist but it'll never be as good as the real ones.
Chipotle's trash? You're honestly the first person I've heard that from, online and in real life. Unless you plan on eating 30$ restaurant dinners everyday or have extremely high standards, I would not judge any country's cuisine. If you're looking for casual meals or fast food, there's no place with more variety than US for meals under <10$. There's a reason variety exists regardless of quality-- people don't enjoy eating the same shit everyday. If you go to America just to eat burgers all the time, well, I feel sorry for you. Better go to Europe where you can dine on that nice French cuisine for 30 euros a meal. i had no idea we were discussing trash "food" for college kids nvm then, my standards are apparently too high for this discussion, keep eating your delicious concentrated grease You need to learn to be good mannered. On July 01 2012 19:36 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:34 mcimba42 wrote:
i honestly haven't seen anything other than the fact that you can find tons of food from outside of america, which is not a good reason to go to america. I don't think you can read As much as I don't want to, "he started it". I'm not going to go about pandering to his non-existent capability to reason. It's the pot calling the kettle black. If you want to stand on the moral high ground, make sure you're not guilty of the things you're criticizing him for. Does a film critique make films? It's as dumb as whatever is floating around on Facebook nowadays "Don't judge anybody unless you're perfect." or whatever that bull is. Your analogy doesn't make sense at all. Film critics and film makers are two different professions. A better analogy would be one film maker saying that another film sucks, when he has the producer of John Carter. Whatever it is, you're avoiding the main point of this argument. If anything, you're helping me show that your point was poorly thought out.
My argument was that you're overestimating American food and underestimating Singaporean food, and that all the things you're looking for can be found in Singapore if you looked for them. If you're trying to make some point about this long series of quotes, there isn't. One guy didn't like Chipotle (people have their own tastes), got into an argument, you called him bad mannered and I called you out on that.
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On July 01 2012 14:19 Probe1 wrote:It's been 35-37 Celsius for the last few days over the entire southeastern United States. JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE  We do have a lot of food though and it is very convenient to buy. Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 12:26 Sinensis wrote:
Our vegetables are genetically modified to be oversized and as a consequence are less flavorful; most of them are also dyed to make them look more natural or something. There is good meat here but it is expensive and difficult to come by, regularly available meat is cheap and bland.
Grocery stores here aren't really somewhere you can grab fresh bread baked on site, get fresh local meat, fresh local fruits, etc. It's the same packaged stuff you can buy anywhere else. Please don't listen to Conspiracy Keanu. Yes, there is very cheap meats that lack flavor but are still wholesome. The whole genetically modified vegetable part is bunk- the tomatoes I buy at Publix are as good as the ones I grow at home in my garden. Certainly you could find cheap, flavorless vegetables and fruits as you could find cheap flavorless meat. However it isn't expensive to buy good tasting food either. Seriously, the post I quoted is like 70% conspiracy theory.
From my personal experience about vegetables it's not where they are grown, it's what kind you grow. In the last 10 years or so I've seen (easiest example) tomato quality significantly go down here in Romania. Even for the ones you buy seeds/seedlings to grow yourself. They grow nice but the taste is quite bland, instead of the sweet/soft/juicy of my youth. The varieties have changed to grow bigger and faster but that means less time to process/add the sugars.
It's rare to actually find really good stuff, even organic vegetables don't compare to the old crappy ones my grandparents used to grow.
This is also quite obvious in fruit, since trees last longer and you can feel the differences between fruits I eat when visiting grandparents and buying in the city markets.
All this isn't only a consequence of genetic modifications, just normal development of varieties. Sure, genetic mods are also a factor but the whole idea is to get faster growing/bigger stuff. This gets downsides, time to gather flavour for one.
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On July 01 2012 20:24 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:17 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:14 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:10 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:09 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:06 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:05 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:03 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:42 mcimba42 wrote:On July 01 2012 19:36 Daozzt wrote:
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Chipotle's trash? You're honestly the first person I've heard that from, online and in real life. Unless you plan on eating 30$ restaurant dinners everyday or have extremely high standards, I would not judge any country's cuisine. If you're looking for casual meals or fast food, there's no place with more variety than US for meals under <10$.
There's a reason variety exists regardless of quality-- people don't enjoy eating the same shit everyday. If you go to America just to eat burgers all the time, well, I feel sorry for you. Better go to Europe where you can dine on that nice French cuisine for 30 euros a meal. i had no idea we were discussing trash "food" for college kids nvm then, my standards are apparently too high for this discussion, keep eating your delicious concentrated grease You need to learn to be good mannered. On July 01 2012 19:36 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:34 mcimba42 wrote:
i honestly haven't seen anything other than the fact that you can find tons of food from outside of america, which is not a good reason to go to america. I don't think you can read As much as I don't want to, "he started it". I'm not going to go about pandering to his non-existent capability to reason. It's the pot calling the kettle black. If you want to stand on the moral high ground, make sure you're not guilty of the things you're criticizing him for. Does a film critique make films? It's as dumb as whatever is floating around on Facebook nowadays "Don't judge anybody unless you're perfect." or whatever that bull is. Your analogy doesn't make sense at all. Film critics and film makers are two different professions. A better analogy would be one film maker saying that another film sucks, when he has the producer of John Carter. Whatever it is, you're avoiding the main point of this argument. If anything, you're helping me show that your point was poorly thought out. My argument was that you're overestimating American food and underestimating Singaporean food, and that all the things you're looking for can be found in Singapore if you looked for them. If you're trying to make some point about this long series of quotes, there isn't. One guy didn't like Chipotle (people have their own tastes), got into an argument, you called him bad mannered and I called you out on that.
No, what you did was to try and force your preferences, or love for Singaporean cuisine onto me as a means to prove that American food is terrible.
Also, you know that's not what he did. Don't try to misconstrue things in your favour.
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Incidentally, unless you're fairly well off, you generally can't eat out every night.
OP seems to be after the classic barbeque-with-mates style, and there definitely is that in NZ and Australia (can't speak for the USA and Canada), but it's also definitely not every night. And generally the animals in NZ and probably Australia are not factory farmed the way they are in the USA, which from what I've heard makes it taste better.
And the Asian cuisine in NZ is much more limited than in SG. It's not too bad if you're in Auckland but it's still not the same as "real" Malay and Thai and Cantonese food. Most places in NZ aren't even especially good at Western food (pies, roasts, etc.) unless you pay closer to $20-30 for your meal. From what I've heard, it's cheap enough and convenient enough to eat out every night in SG/Malaysia/Thailand, but it generally isn't over here. If you're willing to learn to cook yourself then the variety is near enough endless, but I daresay it's pretty similiar in SG.
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On July 01 2012 20:26 Azera wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:24 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:17 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:14 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:10 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:09 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:06 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:05 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:03 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:42 mcimba42 wrote:
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i had no idea we were discussing trash "food" for college kids
nvm then, my standards are apparently too high for this discussion, keep eating your delicious concentrated grease You need to learn to be good mannered. On July 01 2012 19:36 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 19:34 mcimba42 wrote:
i honestly haven't seen anything other than the fact that you can find tons of food from outside of america, which is not a good reason to go to america. I don't think you can read As much as I don't want to, "he started it". I'm not going to go about pandering to his non-existent capability to reason. It's the pot calling the kettle black. If you want to stand on the moral high ground, make sure you're not guilty of the things you're criticizing him for. Does a film critique make films? It's as dumb as whatever is floating around on Facebook nowadays "Don't judge anybody unless you're perfect." or whatever that bull is. Your analogy doesn't make sense at all. Film critics and film makers are two different professions. A better analogy would be one film maker saying that another film sucks, when he has the producer of John Carter. Whatever it is, you're avoiding the main point of this argument. If anything, you're helping me show that your point was poorly thought out. My argument was that you're overestimating American food and underestimating Singaporean food, and that all the things you're looking for can be found in Singapore if you looked for them. If you're trying to make some point about this long series of quotes, there isn't. One guy didn't like Chipotle (people have their own tastes), got into an argument, you called him bad mannered and I called you out on that. No, what you did was to try and force your preferences, or love for Singaporean cuisine onto me as a means to prove that American food is terrible. Also, you know that's not what he did. Don't try to misconstrue things in your favour.
I didn't force you to like Singapore food. I said I like it, and I have many friends, both from the US and Singapore, who like Singapore food. I've told you the general eating habits in America, you don't like it either but like something else. I've told you that you can find these things in Singapore, but you're not exercising your ability to find them. I've even told you the best way to experience life in US firsthand, and you've blatantly ignored it. If you're not willing to accept others' opinions, don't go looking for them.
I'm sorry that your sarcasm detector is broken.
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On July 01 2012 19:52 Heh_ wrote:
if you have an irrational of fear GM food..
You've thrown it out there, now please follow through and demonstrate to everyone why a fear of GM foods is irrational.
(though, we both know you won't because you can't XD)
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On July 01 2012 20:36 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:26 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:24 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:17 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:14 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:10 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:09 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:06 Azera wrote:On July 01 2012 20:05 Heh_ wrote:On July 01 2012 20:03 Azera wrote:
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You need to learn to be good mannered. On July 01 2012 19:36 Azera wrote:
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I don't think you can read As much as I don't want to, "he started it". I'm not going to go about pandering to his non-existent capability to reason. It's the pot calling the kettle black. If you want to stand on the moral high ground, make sure you're not guilty of the things you're criticizing him for. Does a film critique make films? It's as dumb as whatever is floating around on Facebook nowadays "Don't judge anybody unless you're perfect." or whatever that bull is. Your analogy doesn't make sense at all. Film critics and film makers are two different professions. A better analogy would be one film maker saying that another film sucks, when he has the producer of John Carter. Whatever it is, you're avoiding the main point of this argument. If anything, you're helping me show that your point was poorly thought out. My argument was that you're overestimating American food and underestimating Singaporean food, and that all the things you're looking for can be found in Singapore if you looked for them. If you're trying to make some point about this long series of quotes, there isn't. One guy didn't like Chipotle (people have their own tastes), got into an argument, you called him bad mannered and I called you out on that. No, what you did was to try and force your preferences, or love for Singaporean cuisine onto me as a means to prove that American food is terrible. Also, you know that's not what he did. Don't try to misconstrue things in your favour. I didn't force you to like Singapore food. I said I like it, and I have many friends, both from the US and Singapore, who like Singapore food. I've told you the general eating habits in America, you don't like it either but like something else. I've told you that you can find these things in Singapore, but you're not exercising your ability to find them. I've even told you the best way to experience life in US firsthand, and you've blatantly ignored it. If you're not willing to accept others' opinions, don't go looking for them. I'm sorry that your sarcasm detector is broken.
So if you're just stating your preferences, what is this talk of me dismissing other people's opinion? I can't help but laugh when you say that I don't like the eating habits in America. Have you not seen my comments regarding how Americans that have talked of their own eating habits? You've said that I could find such things in Singapore. I agreed. I said supermarkets in J Cube or Paragon sell such things. Best way to experience life in US firsthand? Live there, of course. You want me to move there now? Did you even read the OP?
No, it's only that your half-assed efforts to try and argue against me without properly taking note of the existence of my previous posts that would have voided whatever you're trying to bring up.
Also, unless you're good at writing, sarcasm doesn't work well through text.
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Give it up guys, let him do whatever he wants. If he wants to learn it the hard way so be it.
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On July 01 2012 20:41 Mstring wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 19:52 Heh_ wrote:
if you have an irrational of fear GM food.. You've thrown it out there, now please follow through and demonstrate to everyone why a fear of GM foods is irrational. (though, we both know you won't because you can't XD)
Easily. There's two reasons why people think organic food is better: safety and taste. If you genetically modify crops to grow faster, nothing new suddenly pops up that's gonna poison you. There is a slight risk to adding pesticide resistance genes, caused by excessive usage of the pesticide which might remain on food sold in stores. All other fears are completly irrational and baseless (with 1 exception, unless you're completely devoid of any common sense).
The other part about taste... has been disproved because the comparisons were made using the best possible organic produce compared to the worst crop of GM products. Grow them side by side, and make randomized, double blind tests. Let's
see how your organic produce fare.
@wbirdy: Yeah, lol.
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" Hey guys, since we don't like it, let's all assume that he doesn't like it as well. While we're at it, let's all talk shit about how American eating habits are to us. Who gives a shit about preferences? Oh yeah! We should also only talk about eating habits to dissuade him from thinking about moving away! "
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
I expected more from my fellow countrymen. Clearly, I expected too much.
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You're in Singapore... and you want to go to North America... for the food.
REEIIGHHAARRRRRRUUGGHHHFFFFFFFFNNNGGGHHHH
MY BRAIN, IT HURTS.
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On July 01 2012 20:50 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:41 Mstring wrote:On July 01 2012 19:52 Heh_ wrote:
if you have an irrational of fear GM food.. You've thrown it out there, now please follow through and demonstrate to everyone why a fear of GM foods is irrational. (though, we both know you won't because you can't XD) Easily. There's two reasons why people think organic food is better: safety and taste. If you genetically modify crops to grow faster, nothing new suddenly pops up that's gonna poison you. There is a slight risk to adding pesticide resistance genes, caused by excessive usage of the pesticide which might remain on food sold in stores. All other fears are completly irrational and baseless (with 1 exception, unless you're completely devoid of any common sense).
This isn't about organic food being "better", I'm taking you at your words: You said that it is irrational to fear GM food and I asked you to demonstrate the truth of your statement.
"If you genetically modify crops to grow faster, nothing new suddenly pops up that's gonna poison you"
Prove to everybody that nothing new will suddenly pop up in the future. I'll give you $1000 if you can prove it to everyone right here right now.
"There is a slight risk to adding pesticide resistance genes, caused by excessive usage of the pesticide which might remain on food sold in stores"
You admit there is risk. Do you disagree with the notion that it is completely rational to avoid risk where there is an alternative without the risk?
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On July 01 2012 20:55 snexwang wrote:
You're in Singapore... and you want to go to North America... for the food.
REEIIGHHAARRRRRRUUGGHHHFFFFFFFFNNNGGGHHHH
MY BRAIN, IT HURTS.
No, my brain hurts.
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On July 01 2012 20:50 Heh_ wrote:
Easily. There's two reasons why people think organic food is better: safety and taste. If you genetically modify crops to grow faster, nothing new suddenly pops up that's gonna poison you. There is a slight risk to adding pesticide resistance genes, caused by excessive usage of the pesticide which might remain on food sold in stores. All other fears are completly irrational and baseless (with 1 exception, unless you're completely devoid of any common sense).
It's an ongoing debate in the scientific community, so I would like to have some credentials before you somehow close the question.
Especially since GMOs mostly come from a firm that has a... questionable deontology.
The question also isn't only reduced to the two reasons you quoted. Ever heard of indian peasants committing suicide by hundreds after accumulating a huge debt due to restrictive patents? Of GMO contamination and forced used of modified crops due to geographical insemination?
PS : when I saw 104 replies, I knew this wasn't only going to be about food.
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On July 01 2012 21:04 Kukaracha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 20:50 Heh_ wrote:
Easily. There's two reasons why people think organic food is better: safety and taste. If you genetically modify crops to grow faster, nothing new suddenly pops up that's gonna poison you. There is a slight risk to adding pesticide resistance genes, caused by excessive usage of the pesticide which might remain on food sold in stores. All other fears are completly irrational and baseless (with 1 exception, unless you're completely devoid of any common sense). It's an ongoing debate in the scientific community, so I would like to have some credentials before you somehow close the question. Especially since GMOs mostly come from a firm that has a... questionable deontology. The question also isn't only reduced to the two reasons you quoted. Ever heard of indian peasants committing suicide by hundreds after accumulating a huge debt due to restrictive patents? Of GMO contamination and forced used of modified crops due to geographical insemination? PS : when I saw 104 replies, I knew this wasn't only going to be about food.
It only turned like this because he decided to dodge.
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