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EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
June 18 2012 02:38 GMT
#61
The satire in this is fucking gold. Whoever doesn't get it and is not able to put things in perspective shouldn't even respond.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1249 Posts
June 18 2012 04:46 GMT
#62
I'm ignoring any bw/sc2 comparisons, but I thought OP's post was completely awesome.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
June 18 2012 05:52 GMT
#63
So passive aggresive
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Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 06:05:46
June 18 2012 06:05 GMT
#64
This blog has failed to impress me.

Although I bet it's gonna be gold for all the SC2-hatin bandwaggon
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
June 18 2012 09:01 GMT
#65
On June 18 2012 10:58 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.

Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.

Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.

Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...

Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!

edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00


I have to agree with the professional player here. I came into SC with SC2, but I still have watched seasons of BW, not for 10 years mind you, but I still have seen it and BW is definitely a great game, no questions asked. However, SC2 is a great game. People (especially in the BW forums) hate on SC2 for being way to easy, but the game takes a lot of skill, its the new thing and people are just now pushing the game farther and farther. In the beginning when everything was 5 rax reaper, 2 gates and other randomness, yes i think most everyone thought that SC2 was bound to be restricted by a low skill cap and that the skill cap would be reached by the end of the beta even, but that did not happen. I believe the first time I ever saw the skill cap reached was when I saw the Automaton 2000 play and it split ever single ling that was targeted by each seige tank individually while maintaining near perfect macro mind you. SC2 and BW are amazing games and I personally, very humbly think, that if any of the old BW players were to go into it with the mindset of Flash or Stork or ESPECIALLY Boxer, they would all love SC2.

Yeah. 5 rax reaper, 4 warpgate, TvZ 2 rax, 1-1-1 and shit like that were the primary reasons for me to hate watching and playing SC2. Some already gone, some still exist (FXOTheBest, NSHSTassadar, etc.) but well, the game is progressing pretty well imo. But, the games can co-exist you know?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1685 Posts
June 18 2012 09:32 GMT
#66
On June 18 2012 10:58 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.

Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.

Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.

Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...

Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!

edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00


I have to agree with the professional player here. I came into SC with SC2, but I still have watched seasons of BW, not for 10 years mind you, but I still have seen it and BW is definitely a great game, no questions asked. However, SC2 is a great game. People (especially in the BW forums) hate on SC2 for being way to easy, but the game takes a lot of skill, its the new thing and people are just now pushing the game farther and farther. In the beginning when everything was 5 rax reaper, 2 gates and other randomness, yes i think most everyone thought that SC2 was bound to be restricted by a low skill cap and that the skill cap would be reached by the end of the beta even, but that did not happen. I believe the first time I ever saw the skill cap reached was when I saw the Automaton 2000 play and it split ever single ling that was targeted by each seige tank individually while maintaining near perfect macro mind you. SC2 and BW are amazing games and I personally, very humbly think, that if any of the old BW players were to go into it with the mindset of Flash or Stork or ESPECIALLY Boxer, they would all love SC2.

Yeah cos Stork is having a whale of a time. Also, pleasepleaseplease don't use the "automation 2000" angle. That is an example of the kind of skill cap which WOULD be present, if a person could have 2000 eapm. Everything which is in any way available to humans is much, much lower, and the two cannot be compared in any way. It's not relevant.
EleGant[AoV]
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
June 18 2012 09:55 GMT
#67
On June 18 2012 06:02 Megaliskuu wrote:
Trying too hard.


This.

The OP is too over the top, instead of making me laugh it made me "Uhm... WTF?"
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
June 18 2012 10:26 GMT
#68
MBS and automine would have improved Starcraft Brood war greatly, SC2 not so much because there is barely anything to micro. Imagine if all the pro's could spend more attention microing their units. The game would be much more enjoyable to watch.
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
June 18 2012 12:01 GMT
#69
On June 18 2012 18:55 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:02 Megaliskuu wrote:
Trying too hard.


This.

The OP is too over the top, instead of making me laugh it made me "Uhm... WTF?"

"Brevity is the soul of wit."
-William Shakespeare
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 18 2012 16:49 GMT
#70
On June 18 2012 18:55 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:02 Megaliskuu wrote:
Trying too hard.


This.

The OP is too over the top, instead of making me laugh it made me "Uhm... WTF?"


You're supposed to go "Uhm... WTF?"

The future is really, really messed up.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
June 18 2012 17:16 GMT
#71
On June 19 2012 01:49 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 18:55 Morfildur wrote:
On June 18 2012 06:02 Megaliskuu wrote:
Trying too hard.


This.

The OP is too over the top, instead of making me laugh it made me "Uhm... WTF?"


You're supposed to go "Uhm... WTF?"

The future is really, really messed up.


The future seems fine to me...I love to make useless units like the whales O_O
Bisu is the man
Operations
Profile Joined February 2012
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 21:07:50
June 18 2012 21:04 GMT
#72
It is kinda funny to see avilo defending Sctoo, saying how sctoo being a fun game while he's crying everywhere about how broken tvp and tvz are in Sctoo.

From a bw terran perspective(b- max), the terran race in Sctoo is all about hybrid units from sc:bw which doesnt make any sense(medivac=dropship and medic hybrid, hellion=vulture and firebat hybrid).

the other units like marines and bc's are ripoff from scbw, nothing new introduced. but the new introduced units to the terran arsenal are c&c esque units with some scbw touch. I.E, reapers= rocketeers from RA2,
banshee= orca bomber + cloack rofl. and also the horrible thor aka atriedes mongoose



basically blizzard turned the most micro intensive race in sc:bw into utter piece of 1a-ing trash, to me this seems no fun at all.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 18 2012 21:30 GMT
#73
On June 19 2012 06:04 Operations wrote:
It is kinda funny to see avilo defending Sctoo, saying how sctoo being a fun game while he's crying everywhere about how broken tvp and tvz are in Sctoo.

From a bw terran perspective(b- max), the terran race in Sctoo is all about hybrid units from sc:bw which doesnt make any sense(medivac=dropship and medic hybrid, hellion=vulture and firebat hybrid).

the other units like marines and bc's are ripoff from scbw, nothing new introduced. but the new introduced units to the terran arsenal are c&c esque units with some scbw touch. I.E, reapers= rocketeers from RA2,
banshee= orca bomber + cloack rofl. and also the horrible thor aka atriedes mongoose



basically blizzard turned the most micro intensive race in sc:bw into utter piece of 1a-ing trash, to me this seems no fun at all.


Maybe he feels like SC2 should be improved because he's passionate about it. Did that ever cross your mind?
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 00:56:34
June 19 2012 00:55 GMT
#74
On June 19 2012 06:04 Operations wrote:
It is kinda funny to see avilo defending Sctoo, saying how sctoo being a fun game while he's crying everywhere about how broken tvp and tvz are in Sctoo.

From a bw terran perspective(b- max), the terran race in Sctoo is all about hybrid units from sc:bw which doesnt make any sense(medivac=dropship and medic hybrid, hellion=vulture and firebat hybrid).

the other units like marines and bc's are ripoff from scbw, nothing new introduced. but the new introduced units to the terran arsenal are c&c esque units with some scbw touch. I.E, reapers= rocketeers from RA2,
banshee= orca bomber + cloack rofl. and also the horrible thor aka atriedes mongoose



basically blizzard turned the most micro intensive race in sc:bw into utter piece of 1a-ing trash, to me this seems no fun at all.


Considering most sc2 protoss players don't even have the APM to use the energy from their nexus, I don't think they'll have enough APM to micro if they exist in sc2. I play protoss in BW and I don't even know where I should be using my APM in sc2, just feels like theres no place to micro/use my APM besides pressing gg ffff followed by tttt when I play as protoss in sc2.

Edit: On the positive side about sc2, I don't think former BW players can make fun of me by using the phrase 1a2a3a anymore.
Bisu is the man
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
June 19 2012 01:40 GMT
#75
Was thinking that someone should make a satirical blog about the stagnation of popular FPS games. How all the Call of Duty games are just the same fucking game but people are like, "OH MA GAW! Shooting imaginary foreigners with slightly better graphics!"

InfestedJesus and WhaleKings need some fan-art love gogogo!
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 19 2012 04:43 GMT
#76
On June 19 2012 10:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Was thinking that someone should make a satirical blog about the stagnation of popular FPS games. How all the Call of Duty games are just the same fucking game but people are like, "OH MA GAW! Shooting imaginary foreigners with slightly better graphics!"

InfestedJesus and WhaleKings need some fan-art love gogogo!


If someone just puts a crown on a beluga, that'll pretty much do it for the Whale King.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 19 2012 07:55 GMT
#77
On June 18 2012 10:58 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.

Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.

Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.

Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...

Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!

edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00


I have to agree with the professional player here. I came into SC with SC2, but I still have watched seasons of BW, not for 10 years mind you, but I still have seen it and BW is definitely a great game, no questions asked. However, SC2 is a great game. People (especially in the BW forums) hate on SC2 for being way to easy, but the game takes a lot of skill, its the new thing and people are just now pushing the game farther and farther. In the beginning when everything was 5 rax reaper, 2 gates and other randomness, yes i think most everyone thought that SC2 was bound to be restricted by a low skill cap and that the skill cap would be reached by the end of the beta even, but that did not happen. I believe the first time I ever saw the skill cap reached was when I saw the Automaton 2000 play and it split ever single ling that was targeted by each seige tank individually while maintaining near perfect macro mind you. SC2 and BW are amazing games and I personally, very humbly think, that if any of the old BW players were to go into it with the mindset of Flash or Stork or ESPECIALLY Boxer, they would all love SC2.


Thing is the game becomes imbalanced, then they fix it with patches, not via new builds and meta gaming

Anyway, nina you are secretly funny.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
June 19 2012 08:44 GMT
#78
Not bad
Seriously though, we need to introduce TGU into BW.
+ Show Spoiler +
right we don't, we have Nina ^^
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Nymphaceae
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States350 Posts
August 11 2012 05:34 GMT
#79
On June 19 2012 13:43 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 10:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Was thinking that someone should make a satirical blog about the stagnation of popular FPS games. How all the Call of Duty games are just the same fucking game but people are like, "OH MA GAW! Shooting imaginary foreigners with slightly better graphics!"

InfestedJesus and WhaleKings need some fan-art love gogogo!


If someone just puts a crown on a beluga, that'll pretty much do it for the Whale King.

I read that in SC3 the protoss units counter the zerg units, and the zerg units counter the terran units hard. If it's anything like paper, rock, scissors, then it's worth the $60 when it comes out!
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
August 11 2012 05:52 GMT
#80
yeah it's whining but he's just pointing out stuff he dislikes about sc2. it's obvious bw is better than sc2 but that doesn't mean he hates sc2. he obviously cares a lot about it enough to write this and wants it to be better.
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