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So, I decided to try out SC2, and it was really disappointing and boring.
Oh, by the way, this post is from the future, but since you've all been so nice, I've decided to give it to you now.
I think it's time we all made the switch to SC3
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zau7k.jpg) SC3 is a real-time game where strategy is involved. It picks up where the original 2 StarCraft titles left off, and brings you back into the war-torn battlefields of the Koprulu Sector, which has lost 99.9% of it's population due to the never-ending total war that has been going on for like 40 years now. Jim Raynor is now the King of the Zerg, Arcturus Mengsk has been re-incarnated as a dragoon and is leading the Protoss forces against Zeratul and Kerrigan's Terran forces in one final (we hope?) battle for supremacy. Gameplay has been greatly improved in this latest edition of StarCraft so players can focus less on grueling economy management and boring lame macromanagement-based play, and more on just huge epic battle battles that last for hours, with spectacular jaw-dropping graphics that look real enough to jump right out of the screen! You no longer are restricted to seeing the battle from above, but can see the action unfold in the middle of the chaos as the warring forces clash when the camera puts you right in the middle of the action!!!
Gameplay changes:- You can now select everything in one control group for increased versatility! - You no longer have to build workers or send them to other expansions; the command centers automatically produce the ideal number of SCVs and maynard them to your expansions neatly so you can focus on what's really important: watching huge epic battles. - Huge epic battles. The battles are truly huge, and truly epic. - You no longer have to lose games simply because you have the "wrong unit composition"! We'll leave composing to Mozart and shit, and have added Advisers who automatically scout your opponent and calculate a counter to their strategy for you, building an army for you, so you can focus on what's really important: watching huge epic battles. - Tired of losing? We are, too. If you aren't victorious, the lowest level of humiliation you can endure is a "draw". No more "failing to achieve victory" and "defeats" for ladder-hungry competitors, only varying levels of victory, from "Marginal Victory" to "Flawless Victory"! - Hate imbalance? We do, too. Therefore, we are going to patch the game every weekend, and dramatically change all the unit and building stats every time we do with little or no explanation just to keep things interesting! This way, your Advisers won't have to worry about which units are "OP" and which ones are "Useless", so you can focus on what's really important: watching huge epic battles. Units - ==Terran==1. Marine - This unit has been greatly changed. The marines have shed their armor and go shirtless to show their great abs. They now shoot lasers out of their eyes which have a maximum range of 15. 2. Executioner - This is an all-purpose, do-everything, practically unbeatable infantry unit with no weaknesses! 3. RoboCop - The X-93 "RoboCop" infantry was developed specifically for kicking ass... LITERALLY. 4. Token Girl Unit - The Token Girl Unit has everything you want in a token girl unit: sexiness, nudity, and less talking. 5. Stegosaurus - Using the time machines developed by the re-incarnated god-version of Tosh, these mighty dinosaurs are the cavalry of the Terran army and are completely imbalanced and can fly. 6. Death Laser - A huge satellite that orbits the planet and brings down a huge laser that destroys anything with one hit, has no "cooldown time", and can hit any part of the map at any time. 7. Grim Reaper - A huge mecha robot piloted by an Irish guy, and is guaranteed to pretty much blow the crap out of anything it encounters. 8. Gundam - Another huge mecha robot, but this one has a laser sword, and is piloted by an Asian guy with a FOB accent! 9. Nuclear Missile - You want a REAL nuclear missile? Well, SC3 is bringing the noise with a nuclear missile that completely blows everything up on the whole map, no matter how large the map is! ==Zerg==1. Zergling - The Zergling is back, and less powerful than ever! One Zerg egg spawns 20 Zerglings at a time instead of a mere 2, so you can make your army huge fast!!! 2. Cerberusilisk - A three-headed, acid-spitting monster that can hit air units, underwater units, ground units, and turn invisible forever if you want it to. It also has a lightning spell that has a range of 25, the longest in the whole game, except for the Protoss Catapult. 3. Basillisk - This snake-like unit can petrify enemy units just by looking at them, leaving them helpless to be destroyed by other units. 4. Flying Overmind - FORGET OVERLORDS. The Overmind himself is participating in every battle by replicating himself over and over into a floating airship, and in this game, The Overmind has an Australian accent! Enjoy! 5. Eater - Like it's name suggests, the Eater simply eats everything in it's path, no matter how large, no matter how illogical. It can eat a Terran Nuclear Missile right out of mid-air before the missile can even reach the ground. Sometimes, the Eater will randomly just eat some of your own units for no reason! 6. Molester - The Molester is a spell caster unit only, but it's spells make all your units invincible! The only downside to the Molester is that it has no downside! It is super-fast, can leap over defense walls with ease, and will make your opponents type angry racist things into their chatboxes! 7. Copulater - This unit causes your units to multiply rapidly by injecting them with Zerg Sperm! Has your whole army been destroyed because you're an idiot and killed all your Advisors with your Drones at the beginning of the match? Fear not - the Copulator can regenerate your whole army nearly instantly, and did we mention it's nearly indestructible? 8. Blood-Spurter - This unit spurts blood all over your opponent's units, causing them to run around wildly and shoot their own team's units. 9. Infested Jesus - The Infested Jesus serves many functions, but can turn water into blood for your minions to drink, walk across water, and shoots a missile out of his mouth that causes all of your enemies to explode into pools of blood! The best part is, if Infested Jesus dies, he will resurrect himself within three minutes. ==Protoss==1. Zealot - The basic unit of your dreams, and your opponent's nightmares. Zealots serve the function that they did in the prior two games but with an added twist: now they can jump into the air and latch onto air units, and tear them to pieces. 2. Tri-Pod - This mechanical monster fires a terrifying heat-ray that causes flesh to burst into flames. None of Earth's 1910 technology is any match for these... 3. Adun Clone - The Protoss have learned to clone, and have reproduced their greatest hero, Adun, a million billion times over, and he's back to kick some serious Zerg ass. 4. Phalanx - A mechanical spider-like unit that shoots lasers, and is almost indistinguishable from the Tri-Pod, except that they are slightly different colors. 6. Catapult - The Catapult is the most fear of all Protoss ground units, because it has a max range of 1,000,000. That's right, one million. The Catapult hurls an ancient energy crystal from Ka'el, which can destroy anything in the known universe... 7. Ballista - Basically the same thing as the Catapult. 8. War-Elephant - Have you ever dreamed of a unit that has every spell in the whole game, and can perform every attack that all the other units can combined? Well, the War-Elephant is that unit. It's also basically invincible, and it seems like no amount of firepower can possibly hurt it. 9. Whale-King - Every time we made up a new unit for this game, we made each one more epic and unbeatable than the last. For the final Protoss unit, we decided to go the OPPOSITE way, once again, showing why Blizzard is the most innovative RTS-making company on globe. The Whale-King is a peaceful underwater unit that has no weapons and believes in peace. He is quite weak and fragile, even though he is a huge unit that takes up like three screens.
== new worlds to fight on! ==All-lava world: This type of map is made of pure lava, no land. Everything on it dies instantly!
Cloth world: This world is made entirely of a patchwork of different textiles, such as cotton or wool. Heavenly abode: In this world, the ground is made of light, and there are lots of clouds and glass objects, such as trees and fountains.
== Improved Critters ==Remember when critters were small background features that had almost nothing to do with anything? Well, think again: the new critters are a serious threat to your base, and run rampaging across the maps of SC3. They are almost impossible to stop, and do untold amounts of damage to your worker lines and buildings, and can even take out your whole army if you're not careful.
While playing SC2, I found it difficult to get into. The strategies were too complex, and I couldn't do what I really wanted to: focus on huge epic battles. This is supposed to be a war game, and I don't want to think about things like "Macro", "Build-orders", "Economy management", "etc". YAWN. BOOOOOOORING. Not to mention - the graphics of SC2 are so bad that they're unwatchable compared to the smooth realism of SC3. Furthermore, the explosions in SC2 are really small, and you can only select 36 units at a time. What if I want to select 37 units? The truth is, SC3 is just a better game overall and the switch is inevitable, seeing as how all the pros have already gone over to SC3. Sure, stupid critics like IdrA are saying things like "Okay, you're just insulting our intelligence now." but he's always complained ever since he started his career in SC2.
I want to address everyone's criticisms of SC3, so that they will see the light and switch games. After all, we all need to be on the same boat if we want ESPORTS to get off the ground and flying.
1. "The game basically plays itself and you just watch" WRONG. Just because you nostalgia-crazed fans can't get enough "Economy management" and "Micro" doesn't mean that the game "plays itself". A lot of the boring aspects that kept casual gamers from picking up StarCraft have been removed from the game, and now they can enjoy it more because they don't have think about ridiculous things like "Mineral-to-gas harvesting ratios".
2. "Good graphics don't make the game better than SC2" Well, I disagree with this statement strongly. Games, historically, have advanced themselves in terms of their looks since their conception in 1895. Do you think Pong looks "good"? No. Pong looks like shit. The "ball" looks like an ice cube bouncing back and forth, being knocking around by two flying patio tiles.
3. "Battle.net 3.0 is just a red Hal-9000 eye that you talk to. Where are the buttons? Where are the chat channels? This sucks." I think the Hal-9000 eye is brilliant. It removes the having to navigate around a clunky interface, and simply gives you what you want: games. Think about it: were the chat channels THAT great that you absolutely NEED them. There's plenty of community forums and third-party chat programs that you can use with your friends without annoying people spamming random shit in them.
I personally like that all the Star Leagues are now making the switch to SC3 and getting over that old game. This will usher in a bright new future for ESPORTS with a game that really has a lot of potential. For those who say the skill cap isn't high enough, think about this: it took 20 years and over 450 patches to get SC2 balanced, and it's going to probably take as long for this game to get to be that great. SC3 has only been out for 5 years, and people are still being innovative. Imagine what would happen if Flash played SC3. He would probably Nuke the whole map in less than a minute. Imagine Jaedong covering the whole map with blood with Blood-Spurters. Think about Bisu warping in a Whale-King just as a big "FU" to his opponent every game. The game has a lot of potential that has yet to be tapped, so you SC2 elitists need to stop blowing it off as an "inferior" game to yours.
In conclusion, I would like to say that SC3 is a great game, and it needs to be given the chance it deserves. No, you can't play SC2 and SC3. You have to CHOOSE. You have to dump one completely and devote your life to the other. Frankly, I think you should devote your life to SC3. So do it. Do it now.
 
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I think you have failed to be impressed by sc2, not the other way around.
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Poor strawman. Go play BW forever if you want, but spare us your writing.
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On June 18 2012 05:34 Angel_ wrote:
I think you have failed to be impressed by sc2, not the other way around.
I think my lack of impression is the correct way around.
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Dafuq did I just read? 0.o
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, I get it now. + Show Spoiler +OP doesn't like BW leagues transitioning into SCII, but doesn't have the balls to talk about it, and would rather create a scenario of what would happen when SC3 hits. TBH, I don't think it will hit, and if it will, then it'll be like 10 years from now.
So if you want to bitch about something, do it up front. No need to sugar-coat it, or try and use reverse psychology.
User was warned for this post
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So the catapult is basically a siege tank, except for protoss?
Meh, wouldn't mind being imbalanced myself.
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Try harder next time alright?
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United States22154 Posts
A little too over the top to be truly good satire. The key to being truly satirical is to make it over the top enough that it gets the message across, but not so over the top that its completely unbelievable. Still I found parts of it entertaining.
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Mindless SC2 bashing, how mature. Ironically, the 5-10 minutes you spent writing this could have been spent actually informing yourself and learning about SC2.
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This is fucking awesome, what are you people whining about?
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On June 18 2012 05:40 Zvenn3n wrote:Dafuq did I just read? 0.o + Show Spoiler +Oh, I get it now. + Show Spoiler +OP doesn't like BW leagues transitioning into SCII, but doesn't have the balls to talk about it, and would rather create a scenario of what would happen when SC3 hits. TBH, I don't think it will hit, and if it will, then it'll be like 10 years from now.
So if you want to bitch about something, do it up front. No need to sugar-coat it, or try and use reverse psychology.
You (kind of) figured it out. I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to be upset about Proleague being half SC2. The point of this post isn't to piss people off, though. Sometimes, I think the healthiest way to deal with something is through humor rather than rage. Even if you don't laugh with me, I hope you can at least laugh AT me.
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A lot of defensive SC2 fans will come here and give nonsensical retorts to this that will aim to disparage the OP's intentions not the content or message. A few BW players will laugh and shed a tear at the same time. Pretty succesful post imo.
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While playing SC2, I found it difficult to get into. The strategies were too complex, and I couldn't do what I really wanted to: focus on huge epic battles. This is supposed to be a war game, and I don't want to think about things like "Macro", "Build-orders", "Economy management", "etc". YAWN. BOOOOOOORING.
I see what you did there. Subtle whine thread about being placed in bronze.
Keep your head up; you'll get better in time.
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You guys who are bitching at him are just affirming a lot of his points... I only play and watch Sc2 now, but I still thought it was funny.
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On June 18 2012 05:48 avilo wrote:
Mindless SC2 bashing, how mature. Ironically, the 5-10 minutes you spent writing this could have been spent actually informing yourself and learning about SC2.
I actually love SC2. I think it's a very cool game. I think you're just assuming because I like playing BroodWar that I automatically hate SC2. This is not the case at all.
Also, this took about 30 minutes, because I type slow.
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On June 18 2012 06:00 ClysmiC wrote:
You guys who are bitching at her are just affirming a lot of her points... I only play and watch Sc2 now, but I still thought it was funny.
Fixed.
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Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.
Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.
Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.
Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...
Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!
edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00
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Awesome blog! I don't play myself because infested Jesus is just way too overpowered :[
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On June 18 2012 05:48 avilo wrote:
Mindless SC2 bashing, how mature. Ironically, the 5-10 minutes you spent writing this could have been spent actually informing yourself and learning about SC2.
Yep... In those 5-10 minutes you could have gotten platinum/masters.
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MY MIND!
At first I thought this was another SC2 complaint blog about how BW is so much better... blah blah blah...
Then you say in another post in the blog that SC2 is a great game.
LOLOLOL at the image tho.
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On June 18 2012 06:18 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 05:48 avilo wrote:
Mindless SC2 bashing, how mature. Ironically, the 5-10 minutes you spent writing this could have been spent actually informing yourself and learning about SC2. Yep... In those 5-10 minutes you could have gotten platinum/masters.
Really?
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Lol well I thought it was funny, nice one 
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So, I decided to try out BW, and it was really disappointing and boring.
I think it's time we all made the switch to SC2
While playing BW, I found it difficult to get into. The strategies were too complex, and I couldn't do what I really wanted to: focus on huge epic battles. This is supposed to be a war game, and I don't want to think about things like "Macro", "Build-orders", "Economy management", "etc". YAWN. BOOOOOOORING. Not to mention - the graphics of BW are so bad that they're unwatchable compared to the smooth realism of SC2. Furthermore, the explosions in BW are really small, and you can only select 12 units at a time. What if I want to select 13 units? The truth is, SC2 is just a better game overall and the switch is inevitable, seeing as how all the pros have already gone over to SC2. Sure, stupid critics like IdrA are saying things like "Okay, you're just insulting our intelligence now." but he's always complained ever since he started his career in BW.
I want to address everyone's criticisms of SC2, so that they will see the light and switch games. After all, we all need to be on the same boat if we want ESPORTS to get off the ground and flying.
1. "The game basically plays itself and you just watch" WRONG. Just because you nostalgia-crazed fans can't get enough "Economy management" and "Micro" doesn't mean that the game "plays itself". A lot of the boring aspects that kept casual gamers from picking up StarCraft have been removed from the game, and now they can enjoy it more because they don't have think about ridiculous things like "Mineral-to-gas harvesting ratios".
2. "Good graphics don't make the game better than BW" Well, I disagree with this statement strongly. Games, historically, have advanced themselves in terms of their looks since their conception in 1895. Do you think Pong looks "good"? No. Pong looks like shit. The "ball" looks like an ice cube bouncing back and forth, being knocking around by two flying patio tiles.
3. "Battle.net 2.0 is actually Battle.net 0.2. Where are the buttons? Where are the chat channels? This sucks." I think that Battle.net 2.0 is brilliant. It removes the having to navigate around a clunky interface, and simply gives you what you want: games. Think about it: were the chat channels THAT great that you absolutely NEED them? There's plenty of community forums and third-party chat programs that you can use with your friends without annoying people spamming random shit in them.
I personally like that all the Star Leagues are now making the switch to SC2 and getting over that old game. This will usher in a bright new future for ESPORTS with a game that really has a lot of potential. For those who say the skill cap isn't high enough, think about this: it took 20 years and over 450 patches to get BW balanced, and it's going to probably take as long for this game to get to be that great. SC2 has only been out for 2 years, and people are still being innovative. Imagine what would happen if Flash played SC2. He would probably Nuke the whole map in less than a minute. Imagine Jaedong covering the whole map with creep from queens. Think about Bisu warping in a Mothership just as a big "FU" to his opponent every game. The game has a lot of potential that has yet to be tapped, so you BW elitists need to stop blowing it off as an "inferior" game to yours.
In conclusion, I would like to say that SC2 is a great game, and it needs to be given the chance it deserves. No, you can't play BW and SC2. You have to CHOOSE. You have to dump one completely and devote your life to the other. Frankly, I think you should devote your life to SC2. So do it. Do it now.
Fixed it for you nina.
I know its hard, but as long as people are playing BW, it isn't dead.
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On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.
Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.
Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.
Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...
Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!
edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00
Well, first of all, I should say that I'm not telling or asking people to watch "my" game. I think SC2 should have it's own leagues, but that they should be separate from Proleague. Now, as far as BroodWar lasting forever goes: games don't die, but people do. People come and go, and therefore, both BW and SC2 communities will eventually be gone.
If BroodWar truly actually "dies" as a community, I'm almost certainly not going to play SC2 as much as I play BroodWar now. The area where I think you may be in error is that you seem to be asserting that everyone who played BroodWar should follow the same route as you and eventually just come to love SC2. That just won't happen. Unfortunately, there's going to be a lot more bitterness than converts, and I see more people going over to games like LoL and DOTA2 rather than SC2, or even just going to play MMORPGs.
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On June 18 2012 06:29 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:
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Fixed it for you nina.
I know its hard, but as long as people are playing BW, it isn't dead.
You can't fix the future, man.
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Croatia9487 Posts
I'll admit, I'm amused.
Now where can I find me one of those Token Girl Unit??
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On June 18 2012 06:38 2Pacalypse- wrote:
I'll admit, I'm amused.
Now where can I find me one of those Token Girl Unit??
SC3: Orcs in Space expansion.
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Comments on YouTube level.
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On June 18 2012 06:40 jpak wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:38 2Pacalypse- wrote:
I'll admit, I'm amused.
Now where can I find me one of those Token Girl Unit?? SC3: Orcs in Space expansion.
Also known as SC3: New Moon
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Final chapter? Looks like you haven't read my review of StarCraft IV
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Seems like the Executioner and Marine are the same god damn unit.
0/5 best I could do, my son could give you 1/5.
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On June 18 2012 06:42 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:40 jpak wrote:On June 18 2012 06:38 2Pacalypse- wrote:
I'll admit, I'm amused.
Now where can I find me one of those Token Girl Unit?? SC3: Orcs in Space expansion. Also known as SC3: New Moon
AAAAHHHH!!!! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!
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On June 18 2012 06:44 Chef wrote:
Final chapter? Looks like you haven't read my review of StarCraft IV
I don't know... the ending of SC6 seemed like it left a lot of questions unanswered, and I've already heard rumors that SC7 is in the works.
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On June 18 2012 06:48 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:44 Chef wrote:
Final chapter? Looks like you haven't read my review of StarCraft IV I don't know... the ending of SC6 seemed like it left a lot of questions unanswered, and I've already heard rumors that SC7 is in the works.
The numbers don't mean anything anymore since SC23 introduced time travel and messed it all up. Brood War is actually SC100.
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On June 18 2012 06:44 Chef wrote:
Final chapter? Looks like you haven't read my review of StarCraft IV
One of the most well-written reviews of any game that does not exist I have ever seen.
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Come on this is funny in it's own right. You don't have to agree with him to be amused.
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Eh, was ok. Little too much.
Go play bw if SC2 is so bad?
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United States10089 Posts
lmfao i <3 this blog. so funny. i died laughing when jesus and zeratul needs to merge to beat majiin buu xD
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On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.
Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.
Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.
Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...
Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!
edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00
I'm bored of both sides of things. Pointless hate (not that I think this blog is), and people like this who keep telling people to move on and accept something they don't like. You forgot another one- make a damn effort to keep your game going. Not that most people would know what that means, because most people take what they like, and moan, and pitchfork, and occasionally come into my damn stream chat to tell me how hilarious they think it is that BW isn't as big as SC2, though they'll be in the same spot a few years down the line.
The make an effort option isn't easy. It's definitely the right one though, if you feel strongly. Not just sitting back and taking it, "getting over it and moving on". That's entirely based on the idea that you can't have something unless someone else is willing to manufacture it then give it to you. Do it yourself!
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I understand having different opinions but I would go to youtube over teamliquid if I wanted to see stuff like the posts here. Reading nina's blog first and the other posts later then going back and reading nina's blog once more, I see half of the stuff she is telling about. Someone expresses his/her opinion which includes slightest amount of dislike towards SC2 and he/she gets bashed by a swarm of people in the following fortnight.
By the way I like the new PL format. It is like mixing vanilla and chocolate.
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if its so easy, what rank are you?
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On June 18 2012 06:24 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:18 Eywa- wrote:On June 18 2012 05:48 avilo wrote:
Mindless SC2 bashing, how mature. Ironically, the 5-10 minutes you spent writing this could have been spent actually informing yourself and learning about SC2. Yep... In those 5-10 minutes you could have gotten platinum/masters. Really?
Yeah, I'm a D rank 90 apm BW player and I got platinum level without any experience.
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On June 18 2012 06:24 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:18 Eywa- wrote:On June 18 2012 05:48 avilo wrote:
Mindless SC2 bashing, how mature. Ironically, the 5-10 minutes you spent writing this could have been spent actually informing yourself and learning about SC2. Yep... In those 5-10 minutes you could have gotten platinum/masters. Really?
I can rape platinum players, and I don't even know which unit does extra damage to what units. Although, I do recognize all the protoss units (I played protoss) and recognize half of the enemy units and buildings and know what they do/build. I'm really suprised how platinum/diamond players keep their energy on their cc/nexus really high though..I thought the spells were pretty useful
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i dont know if you guys are trying to imply different but...
plat is really not very good at all... :/
edit: i say this as a low plat player.
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On June 18 2012 08:48 sc2superfan101 wrote:
i dont know if you guys are trying to imply different but...
plat is really not very good at all... :/
edit: i say this as a low plat player.
I don't play enough to know how good diamond/master players are. I've been told anyone below masters is the equivalent of D- in BW. I'm a C+ player. To give you an idea of the skill difference; I can kill half of my starting probes and still easily beat a D- player with basically units whose only purpose is to humiliate the opponent (scouts).
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well, it was funny at some points but at others it was too over-the-top >.<
Infested Jesus made me rofl tho
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I JUST MASS WHALE KING ALL DAY
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If you want an easy RTS where you build big armies then try Supreme Commander. SC2 is an amazing game, although I agree it's hard to get into now (multiplayer anyway) because there is so much history and strategy around the game that you're starting from scratch in a world where everyone has lapped you a thousand times. But honestly, SC2 is the best game ever created IMO. It's not "emotionally" my favourite of all time (yet) but it just hits everything, and the fact it's becoming such a huge e-sport is fantastic.
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On June 18 2012 09:14 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
well, it was funny at some points but at others it was too over-the-top >.<
Infested Jesus made me rofl tho
Funny: Check
Over-the-top: Check
Job: Complete
On June 18 2012 09:35 Th1rdEye wrote:
I JUST MASS WHALE KING ALL DAY
You must not be very good, because mass Whale-King isn't a viable strat against any player who knows how to play.
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Nah, mass whale king helps because my opponent can't click any of their units.
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On June 18 2012 10:04 Lightwip wrote:
Nah, mass whale king helps because my opponent can't click any of their units.
Only works against noobs who don't use controlgroups.
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5/5, I look forward to robocop and token girl unit deathballs
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On June 18 2012 09:57 DRTnOOber wrote:
If you want an easy RTS where you build big armies then try Supreme Commander. SC2 is an amazing game, although I agree it's hard to get into now (multiplayer anyway) because there is so much history and strategy around the game that you're starting from scratch in a world where everyone has lapped you a thousand times. But honestly, SC2 is the best game ever created IMO. It's not "emotionally" my favourite of all time (yet) but it just hits everything, and the fact it's becoming such a huge e-sport is fantastic.
Interesting you brought this up. Although released in 1998, BroodWar was already miles behind of Total Annihilation, which was released in 1997. Total Annihilation already had fully-rendered units (over 100 different units types, too, holy crap) and you could literally select EVERYTHING at once. You could literally A-move your whole army at once (which, incidentally, would lead to some pretty horrific traffic jams when the units ran into chokes) and rally all your factories to one spot simultaneously.
The main weaknesses of Total Annihilation were: A) Non-engaging storyline... it was very impersonal and lacked characters. The missions were very repetitive and bland. B) No battle.net. Blizzard already had set up b.net for it's prior titles, and StarCraft's community was immediately able to plug into a community. It seemed like Supreme Commander went out of it's way to correct it's CaveDog-developed predecessor by adding a third faction, and giving the game a much more engaging story, plus adding a ladder system. When StarCraft 2 began previewing it's units, it seemed like Supreme Commander was ahead of the curve once again, and Blizzard seems to have coincidentally copied a lot of unit design from Supreme Commander.
![[image loading]](http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww82/artsynmk/supcomandsc2.jpg)
Here's one example that immediately jumped out at me: the Protoss have quite a few units that look conspicuously like Aeon Illuminate soldiers, with that kind of "robot insectoid tripod" feel to the units. Then I noticed that the Terran in SC2 had a lot more mech suits, and the Terran Siege Tank looks a LOT like UEF T2 Heavy Tank. The aircraft used by the Protoss and Terran in SC2 also look very SupCom-ish. The Cybran units look very insect-like, kind of like the Zerg (which seem to be an insect-lizard hybrid race), but I think Gas-Powered Games was actually copying off of the original StarCraft there.
Is this all a coincidence? Conspiracy-Bisu doesn't think so.
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On June 18 2012 10:04 Lightwip wrote:
Nah, mass whale king helps because my opponent can't click any of their units.
Wow, I think you just changed the SC3 metagame... Whale King needs nerf, imo.
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Fun read with some good points, though a little too overt ;p
Bnet 3.0 sounds better than bnet 2.0 actually. Which makes sense I guess, because .3 >.2
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On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.
Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.
Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.
Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...
Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!
edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00
I have to agree with the professional player here. I came into SC with SC2, but I still have watched seasons of BW, not for 10 years mind you, but I still have seen it and BW is definitely a great game, no questions asked. However, SC2 is a great game. People (especially in the BW forums) hate on SC2 for being way to easy, but the game takes a lot of skill, its the new thing and people are just now pushing the game farther and farther. In the beginning when everything was 5 rax reaper, 2 gates and other randomness, yes i think most everyone thought that SC2 was bound to be restricted by a low skill cap and that the skill cap would be reached by the end of the beta even, but that did not happen. I believe the first time I ever saw the skill cap reached was when I saw the Automaton 2000 play and it split ever single ling that was targeted by each seige tank individually while maintaining near perfect macro mind you. SC2 and BW are amazing games and I personally, very humbly think, that if any of the old BW players were to go into it with the mindset of Flash or Stork or ESPECIALLY Boxer, they would all love SC2.
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The satire in this is fucking gold. Whoever doesn't get it and is not able to put things in perspective shouldn't even respond.
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I'm ignoring any bw/sc2 comparisons, but I thought OP's post was completely awesome.
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This blog has failed to impress me.
Although I bet it's gonna be gold for all the SC2-hatin bandwaggon
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On June 18 2012 10:58 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.
Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.
Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.
Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...
Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!
edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00 I have to agree with the professional player here. I came into SC with SC2, but I still have watched seasons of BW, not for 10 years mind you, but I still have seen it and BW is definitely a great game, no questions asked. However, SC2 is a great game. People (especially in the BW forums) hate on SC2 for being way to easy, but the game takes a lot of skill, its the new thing and people are just now pushing the game farther and farther. In the beginning when everything was 5 rax reaper, 2 gates and other randomness, yes i think most everyone thought that SC2 was bound to be restricted by a low skill cap and that the skill cap would be reached by the end of the beta even, but that did not happen. I believe the first time I ever saw the skill cap reached was when I saw the Automaton 2000 play and it split ever single ling that was targeted by each seige tank individually while maintaining near perfect macro mind you. SC2 and BW are amazing games and I personally, very humbly think, that if any of the old BW players were to go into it with the mindset of Flash or Stork or ESPECIALLY Boxer, they would all love SC2.
Yeah. 5 rax reaper, 4 warpgate, TvZ 2 rax, 1-1-1 and shit like that were the primary reasons for me to hate watching and playing SC2. Some already gone, some still exist (FXOTheBest, NSHSTassadar, etc.) but well, the game is progressing pretty well imo. But, the games can co-exist you know?
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On June 18 2012 10:58 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.
Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.
Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.
Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...
Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!
edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00 I have to agree with the professional player here. I came into SC with SC2, but I still have watched seasons of BW, not for 10 years mind you, but I still have seen it and BW is definitely a great game, no questions asked. However, SC2 is a great game. People (especially in the BW forums) hate on SC2 for being way to easy, but the game takes a lot of skill, its the new thing and people are just now pushing the game farther and farther. In the beginning when everything was 5 rax reaper, 2 gates and other randomness, yes i think most everyone thought that SC2 was bound to be restricted by a low skill cap and that the skill cap would be reached by the end of the beta even, but that did not happen. I believe the first time I ever saw the skill cap reached was when I saw the Automaton 2000 play and it split ever single ling that was targeted by each seige tank individually while maintaining near perfect macro mind you. SC2 and BW are amazing games and I personally, very humbly think, that if any of the old BW players were to go into it with the mindset of Flash or Stork or ESPECIALLY Boxer, they would all love SC2.
Yeah cos Stork is having a whale of a time. Also, pleasepleaseplease don't use the "automation 2000" angle. That is an example of the kind of skill cap which WOULD be present, if a person could have 2000 eapm. Everything which is in any way available to humans is much, much lower, and the two cannot be compared in any way. It's not relevant.
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On June 18 2012 06:02 Megaliskuu wrote:
Trying too hard.
This.
The OP is too over the top, instead of making me laugh it made me "Uhm... WTF?"
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MBS and automine would have improved Starcraft Brood war greatly, SC2 not so much because there is barely anything to micro. Imagine if all the pro's could spend more attention microing their units. The game would be much more enjoyable to watch.
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On June 18 2012 18:55 Morfildur wrote:This. The OP is too over the top, instead of making me laugh it made me "Uhm... WTF?"
"Brevity is the soul of wit."
-William Shakespeare
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On June 18 2012 18:55 Morfildur wrote:This. The OP is too over the top, instead of making me laugh it made me "Uhm... WTF?"
You're supposed to go "Uhm... WTF?"
The future is really, really messed up.
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On June 19 2012 01:49 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 18:55 Morfildur wrote:On June 18 2012 06:02 Megaliskuu wrote:
Trying too hard. This. The OP is too over the top, instead of making me laugh it made me "Uhm... WTF?" You're supposed to go "Uhm... WTF?" The future is really, really messed up.
The future seems fine to me...I love to make useless units like the whales O_O
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It is kinda funny to see avilo defending Sctoo, saying how sctoo being a fun game while he's crying everywhere about how broken tvp and tvz are in Sctoo.
From a bw terran perspective(b- max), the terran race in Sctoo is all about hybrid units from sc:bw which doesnt make any sense(medivac=dropship and medic hybrid, hellion=vulture and firebat hybrid).
the other units like marines and bc's are ripoff from scbw, nothing new introduced. but the new introduced units to the terran arsenal are c&c esque units with some scbw touch. I.E, reapers= rocketeers from RA2,
banshee= orca bomber + cloack rofl. and also the horrible thor aka atriedes mongoose
basically blizzard turned the most micro intensive race in sc:bw into utter piece of 1a-ing trash, to me this seems no fun at all.
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On June 19 2012 06:04 Operations wrote:
It is kinda funny to see avilo defending Sctoo, saying how sctoo being a fun game while he's crying everywhere about how broken tvp and tvz are in Sctoo.
From a bw terran perspective(b- max), the terran race in Sctoo is all about hybrid units from sc:bw which doesnt make any sense(medivac=dropship and medic hybrid, hellion=vulture and firebat hybrid).
the other units like marines and bc's are ripoff from scbw, nothing new introduced. but the new introduced units to the terran arsenal are c&c esque units with some scbw touch. I.E, reapers= rocketeers from RA2,
banshee= orca bomber + cloack rofl. and also the horrible thor aka atriedes mongoose
basically blizzard turned the most micro intensive race in sc:bw into utter piece of 1a-ing trash, to me this seems no fun at all.
Maybe he feels like SC2 should be improved because he's passionate about it. Did that ever cross your mind?
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On June 19 2012 06:04 Operations wrote:
It is kinda funny to see avilo defending Sctoo, saying how sctoo being a fun game while he's crying everywhere about how broken tvp and tvz are in Sctoo.
From a bw terran perspective(b- max), the terran race in Sctoo is all about hybrid units from sc:bw which doesnt make any sense(medivac=dropship and medic hybrid, hellion=vulture and firebat hybrid).
the other units like marines and bc's are ripoff from scbw, nothing new introduced. but the new introduced units to the terran arsenal are c&c esque units with some scbw touch. I.E, reapers= rocketeers from RA2,
banshee= orca bomber + cloack rofl. and also the horrible thor aka atriedes mongoose
basically blizzard turned the most micro intensive race in sc:bw into utter piece of 1a-ing trash, to me this seems no fun at all.
Considering most sc2 protoss players don't even have the APM to use the energy from their nexus, I don't think they'll have enough APM to micro if they exist in sc2. I play protoss in BW and I don't even know where I should be using my APM in sc2, just feels like theres no place to micro/use my APM besides pressing gg ffff followed by tttt when I play as protoss in sc2.
Edit: On the positive side about sc2, I don't think former BW players can make fun of me by using the phrase 1a2a3a anymore.
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Was thinking that someone should make a satirical blog about the stagnation of popular FPS games. How all the Call of Duty games are just the same fucking game but people are like, "OH MA GAW! Shooting imaginary foreigners with slightly better graphics!"
InfestedJesus and WhaleKings need some fan-art love gogogo!
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On June 19 2012 10:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Was thinking that someone should make a satirical blog about the stagnation of popular FPS games. How all the Call of Duty games are just the same fucking game but people are like, "OH MA GAW! Shooting imaginary foreigners with slightly better graphics!"
InfestedJesus and WhaleKings need some fan-art love gogogo!
If someone just puts a crown on a beluga, that'll pretty much do it for the Whale King.
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On June 18 2012 10:58 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:08 avilo wrote:
Ironically you want people to watch "your" game (bw) but you're up in arms that half of the proleague is SC2? What exactly is this "ailment" you're dealing with? You sound like you're dying.
Well, there are 4 steps in your griefing of the move from bw to sc2:
Denial:
You can deny that things are shifting to SC2. You can pretend for the next 80 years we will watch brood war. You can deny that there *may* just be another awesome game like brood war which happens to be the sequel to the greatest game ever.
Anger:
It's perfectly fine to be angry. Brood war is what people have watched for 10 years. Taking away something you've known forever is tough, and accepting change is even tougher. Getting angry is OK.
Depression:
It'll be difficult, and you may become depressed. Many were when SC2 came out. People thought more than 12 unit selection would break everything, there'd be no skill, and the game would play itself. I myself thought exactly those things, and worse...
Acceptance and Hope:
After all of those sad negative uninformed opinions about SC2 were sapped from my body, and I learned to play it (and watch it) I started to like SC2. Why? Because it is fun, and it turns out when you take the time to learn it...it's pretty damn good. There's always a special place in every SC player's heart for brood war...but it's time to accept and move on. And as it happens to turn out...you can be a fan of both wings of liberty and brood war...because they are both starcraft...who would have thought!
edit: to clarify, this is @ those people that specifically hate on SC2 without watching it, and blindly stick to bw. -_- those people are annoying. both games are c00 I have to agree with the professional player here. I came into SC with SC2, but I still have watched seasons of BW, not for 10 years mind you, but I still have seen it and BW is definitely a great game, no questions asked. However, SC2 is a great game. People (especially in the BW forums) hate on SC2 for being way to easy, but the game takes a lot of skill, its the new thing and people are just now pushing the game farther and farther. In the beginning when everything was 5 rax reaper, 2 gates and other randomness, yes i think most everyone thought that SC2 was bound to be restricted by a low skill cap and that the skill cap would be reached by the end of the beta even, but that did not happen. I believe the first time I ever saw the skill cap reached was when I saw the Automaton 2000 play and it split ever single ling that was targeted by each seige tank individually while maintaining near perfect macro mind you. SC2 and BW are amazing games and I personally, very humbly think, that if any of the old BW players were to go into it with the mindset of Flash or Stork or ESPECIALLY Boxer, they would all love SC2.
Thing is the game becomes imbalanced, then they fix it with patches, not via new builds and meta gaming 
Anyway, nina you are secretly funny.
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Not bad
Seriously though, we need to introduce TGU into BW.
+ Show Spoiler +right we don't, we have Nina ^^
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On June 19 2012 13:43 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 10:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Was thinking that someone should make a satirical blog about the stagnation of popular FPS games. How all the Call of Duty games are just the same fucking game but people are like, "OH MA GAW! Shooting imaginary foreigners with slightly better graphics!"
InfestedJesus and WhaleKings need some fan-art love gogogo! If someone just puts a crown on a beluga, that'll pretty much do it for the Whale King.
I read that in SC3 the protoss units counter the zerg units, and the zerg units counter the terran units hard. If it's anything like paper, rock, scissors, then it's worth the $60 when it comes out!
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yeah it's whining but he's just pointing out stuff he dislikes about sc2. it's obvious bw is better than sc2 but that doesn't mean he hates sc2. he obviously cares a lot about it enough to write this and wants it to be better.
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On August 11 2012 14:52 Diglett wrote:
yeah it's whining but he's just pointing out stuff he dislikes about sc2. it's obvious bw is better than sc2 but that doesn't mean he hates sc2. he obviously cares a lot about it enough to write this and wants it to be better.
I think she was expecting the game not to get worse, but better. SC2 was just made too extremely newb friendly, but for some reason the majority of the new SC2 players go around bashing all other games, talking about how hard SC2 is, and how it's the most difficult game in the world. I miss the old BW scene from when the game first came out, because it was a lot more crazy than the sc2 scene. I ended up quitting SC2 for bejeweled, but I still enjoy the SC community.
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I for one thoroughly enjoyed this blog, haha.
All of you on page 1 need to relax a little bit. Immediate responses are bashing the OP for "whining" (I thought the satire worked pretty well). That makes me wonder why people get so defensive and hostile over things like this.
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This may have been as subtle as a brick in the face, but a good kind of brick. Like a kilo of chocolate. Mmmmm chocolate!
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Haha, it's kinda sad a joke can incite such a vicious response. I think some people are a bit too passionate, you don't have to superimpose a message of hate whenever a BW fan pokes fun at SC2.
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On June 19 2012 06:04 Operations wrote:
Sctoo What the fuck is this shit? It's dumb. Stop it. Is your 2 key broken? Get out.
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I'm as big of a fan of sc2 as the next guy, but this post was actually hilarious.
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On June 19 2012 06:04 Operations wrote:
It is kinda funny to see avilo defending Sctoo, saying how sctoo being a fun game while he's crying everywhere about how broken tvp and tvz are in Sctoo.
From a bw terran perspective(b- max), the terran race in Sctoo is all about hybrid units from sc:bw which doesnt make any sense(medivac=dropship and medic hybrid, hellion=vulture and firebat hybrid).
the other units like marines and bc's are ripoff from scbw, nothing new introduced. but the new introduced units to the terran arsenal are c&c esque units with some scbw touch. I.E, reapers= rocketeers from RA2,
banshee= orca bomber + cloack rofl. and also the horrible thor aka atriedes mongoose
basically blizzard turned the most micro intensive race in sc:bw into utter piece of 1a-ing trash, to me this seems no fun at all.
What is sctoo?
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On August 12 2012 03:12 ZaloMonkada wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 06:04 Operations wrote:
It is kinda funny to see avilo defending Sctoo, saying how sctoo being a fun game while he's crying everywhere about how broken tvp and tvz are in Sctoo.
From a bw terran perspective(b- max), the terran race in Sctoo is all about hybrid units from sc:bw which doesnt make any sense(medivac=dropship and medic hybrid, hellion=vulture and firebat hybrid).
the other units like marines and bc's are ripoff from scbw, nothing new introduced. but the new introduced units to the terran arsenal are c&c esque units with some scbw touch. I.E, reapers= rocketeers from RA2,
banshee= orca bomber + cloack rofl. and also the horrible thor aka atriedes mongoose
basically blizzard turned the most micro intensive race in sc:bw into utter piece of 1a-ing trash, to me this seems no fun at all. What is sctoo? User was fileted alive for this post.
It's SC2.
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Russian Federation748 Posts
But is it Starcraft too ?
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This thread makes me want to play BW more. I miss it, but I don't miss SC2.
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To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today
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On August 12 2012 08:40 Dice17 wrote:
To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today
Thanks for this superb reply. I will attempt to respond, but you can't expect me to match your level of wit or intelligence in regards to forum posting, so bear with me. Now, when you say that ranting about SC2 and BW "seems a bit pointless", I can only come to three conclusions:
1. Seems a bit pointless - If this is the case, then you are pointing out that while you find BroodWar's struggle for significance to be valiant, it seems to you that the battle is insurmountable, and you see no victory in sight. To that I can say: Yeah, you're right. Nothing lasts forever.
2. Seems a bit pointless - In this alternative interpretation of your post, you are asserting there is a bit of pointlessness to ranting, albeit only a very small amount of pointlessness, as the highlighted text suggests. That would seem to indicate to me that you're saying that a majority of the blog is point-worthy, and small percentage of the blog is worthy of zero points, but given the context of your entire post, I find this interpretation to be the least likely.
3. Seems a bit pointless - Emphasis on pointlessless, this more nihilistic approach to Dice17's work seems to imply that he feels that meaninglessness is an inherent trait in the original post. But if this is so, why would he, himself, also post, given his philosophical viewpoint that purpose does not exist within the context of the existence of this thread? The answer is simple: Mr. 17 goes on to make an argument based on probabilities when he says "considering the scale of the community". This is much more likely, especially since the scale of the community leans heavily towards a percentage of SC2 gamers that heavily dwarfs the BW population [citation needed]. If this is, indeed, the case, Dice is not suggesting utter and complete pointlessness, which affirmed by his words "a bit", and that there is some point-worthy quality to the blog, that the pointlessness is massive in scale, but not infinite.
It has been asked by scholars throughout much of the post-SC3-blog-era: "Why?"
The question as to why he wrote these words will probably never be fully known; a mystery lost to the passing of ages. However, we can discuss the possibilities and implications of the possibilities as to why Dice17's famous words, "To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today" were uttered and echoed through the corridors of history.
Perhaps he was suggesting that the original post should never have been posted to begin with. This is a leap of faith, but George Moorebrooke, an author and scholar during the late post-SC3-blog-era suggests, "Perhaps Dice17 was expressing disgust that the blog had been posted, and his disdain for the original post was so great that he was compelled to speak out aggressively against it. It is also possible that by doing so, he hoped that his work would dissuade similar works from being scripted in the future." More contemporary historians maintain that Dice17 was an advocate of free speech, and was not opposed directly to the posting of the SC3 blog, but rather had decided to voice an dissenting opinion as part of his belief that all viewpoints should be considered. I would have to ask of this though: was Dice17 really voicing dissent, or are historians simply misinterpreting his work based on their philosophical viewpoints? The only one who would really know would be Dice17 himself.
No matter how his work and comment are viewed by the international intellectual community, it is quite clear that Dice17's voice was instrumental in influencing a generation, and his works, to this day, are fascinating and intellectually stimulating enough to be put under the microscope of society, to be gazed upon in awe, even as his words themselves elude our collective cerebral grasp, and coyly evade the brightest of our minds today.
Thank you.
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On August 12 2012 09:44 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 08:40 Dice17 wrote:
To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today Thanks for this superb reply. I will attempt to respond, but you can't expect me to match your level of wit or intelligence in regards to forum posting, so bear with me. Now, when you say that ranting about SC2 and BW "seems a bit pointless", I can only come to three conclusions: 1. Seems a bit pointless - If this is the case, then you are pointing out that while you find BroodWar's struggle for significance to be valiant, it seems to you that the battle is insurmountable, and you see no victory in sight. To that I can say: Yeah, you're right. Nothing lasts forever. 2. Seems a bit pointless - In this alternative interpretation of your post, you are asserting there is a bit of pointlessness to ranting, albeit only a very small amount of pointlessness, as the highlighted text suggests. That would seem to indicate to me that you're saying that a majority of the blog is point-worthy, and small percentage of the blog is worthy of zero points, but given the context of your entire post, I find this interpretation to be the least likely. 3. Seems a bit pointless - Emphasis on pointlessless, this more nihilistic approach to Dice17's work seems to imply that he feels that meaninglessness is an inherent trait in the original post. But if this is so, why would he, himself, also post, given his philosophical viewpoint that purpose does not exist within the context of the existence of this thread? The answer is simple: Mr. 17 goes on to make an argument based on probabilities when he says "considering the scale of the community". This is much more likely, especially since the scale of the community leans heavily towards a percentage of SC2 gamers that heavily dwarfs the BW population [ citation needed]. If this is, indeed, the case, Dice is not suggesting utter and complete pointlessness, which affirmed by his words "a bit", and that there is some point-worthy quality to the blog, that the pointlessness is massive in scale, but not infinite. It has been asked by scholars throughout much of the post-SC3-blog-era: " Why?" The question as to why he wrote these words will probably never be fully known; a mystery lost to the passing of ages. However, we can discuss the possibilities and implications of the possibilities as to why Dice17's famous words, " To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today" were uttered and echoed through the corridors of history. Perhaps he was suggesting that the original post should never have been posted to begin with. This is a leap of faith, but George Moorebrooke, an author and scholar during the late post-SC3-blog-era suggests, " Perhaps Dice17 was expressing disgust that the blog had been posted, and his disdain for the original post was so great that he was compelled to speak out aggressively against it. It is also possible that by doing so, he hoped that his work would dissuade similar works from being scripted in the future." More contemporary historians maintain that Dice17 was an advocate of free speech, and was not opposed directly to the posting of the SC3 blog, but rather had decided to voice an dissenting opinion as part of his belief that all viewpoints should be considered. I would have to ask of this though: was Dice17 really voicing dissent, or are historians simply misinterpreting his work based on their philosophical viewpoints? The only one who would really know would be Dice17 himself. No matter how his work and comment are viewed by the international intellectual community, it is quite clear that Dice17's voice was instrumental in influencing a generation, and his works, to this day, are fascinating and intellectually stimulating enough to be put under the microscope of society, to be gazed upon in awe, even as his words themselves elude our collective cerebral grasp, and coyly evade the brightest of our minds today. Thank you.
Do you still stream or play BW?
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On August 12 2012 10:04 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 09:44 ninazerg wrote:On August 12 2012 08:40 Dice17 wrote:
To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today Thanks for this superb reply. I will attempt to respond, but you can't expect me to match your level of wit or intelligence in regards to forum posting, so bear with me. Now, when you say that ranting about SC2 and BW "seems a bit pointless", I can only come to three conclusions: 1. Seems a bit pointless - If this is the case, then you are pointing out that while you find BroodWar's struggle for significance to be valiant, it seems to you that the battle is insurmountable, and you see no victory in sight. To that I can say: Yeah, you're right. Nothing lasts forever. 2. Seems a bit pointless - In this alternative interpretation of your post, you are asserting there is a bit of pointlessness to ranting, albeit only a very small amount of pointlessness, as the highlighted text suggests. That would seem to indicate to me that you're saying that a majority of the blog is point-worthy, and small percentage of the blog is worthy of zero points, but given the context of your entire post, I find this interpretation to be the least likely. 3. Seems a bit pointless - Emphasis on pointlessless, this more nihilistic approach to Dice17's work seems to imply that he feels that meaninglessness is an inherent trait in the original post. But if this is so, why would he, himself, also post, given his philosophical viewpoint that purpose does not exist within the context of the existence of this thread? The answer is simple: Mr. 17 goes on to make an argument based on probabilities when he says "considering the scale of the community". This is much more likely, especially since the scale of the community leans heavily towards a percentage of SC2 gamers that heavily dwarfs the BW population [ citation needed]. If this is, indeed, the case, Dice is not suggesting utter and complete pointlessness, which affirmed by his words "a bit", and that there is some point-worthy quality to the blog, that the pointlessness is massive in scale, but not infinite. It has been asked by scholars throughout much of the post-SC3-blog-era: " Why?" The question as to why he wrote these words will probably never be fully known; a mystery lost to the passing of ages. However, we can discuss the possibilities and implications of the possibilities as to why Dice17's famous words, " To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today" were uttered and echoed through the corridors of history. Perhaps he was suggesting that the original post should never have been posted to begin with. This is a leap of faith, but George Moorebrooke, an author and scholar during the late post-SC3-blog-era suggests, " Perhaps Dice17 was expressing disgust that the blog had been posted, and his disdain for the original post was so great that he was compelled to speak out aggressively against it. It is also possible that by doing so, he hoped that his work would dissuade similar works from being scripted in the future." More contemporary historians maintain that Dice17 was an advocate of free speech, and was not opposed directly to the posting of the SC3 blog, but rather had decided to voice an dissenting opinion as part of his belief that all viewpoints should be considered. I would have to ask of this though: was Dice17 really voicing dissent, or are historians simply misinterpreting his work based on their philosophical viewpoints? The only one who would really know would be Dice17 himself. No matter how his work and comment are viewed by the international intellectual community, it is quite clear that Dice17's voice was instrumental in influencing a generation, and his works, to this day, are fascinating and intellectually stimulating enough to be put under the microscope of society, to be gazed upon in awe, even as his words themselves elude our collective cerebral grasp, and coyly evade the brightest of our minds today. Thank you. Do you still stream or play BW?
Why, yes I do!
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On August 12 2012 10:07 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 10:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 12 2012 09:44 ninazerg wrote:On August 12 2012 08:40 Dice17 wrote:
To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today Thanks for this superb reply. I will attempt to respond, but you can't expect me to match your level of wit or intelligence in regards to forum posting, so bear with me. Now, when you say that ranting about SC2 and BW "seems a bit pointless", I can only come to three conclusions: 1. Seems a bit pointless - If this is the case, then you are pointing out that while you find BroodWar's struggle for significance to be valiant, it seems to you that the battle is insurmountable, and you see no victory in sight. To that I can say: Yeah, you're right. Nothing lasts forever. 2. Seems a bit pointless - In this alternative interpretation of your post, you are asserting there is a bit of pointlessness to ranting, albeit only a very small amount of pointlessness, as the highlighted text suggests. That would seem to indicate to me that you're saying that a majority of the blog is point-worthy, and small percentage of the blog is worthy of zero points, but given the context of your entire post, I find this interpretation to be the least likely. 3. Seems a bit pointless - Emphasis on pointlessless, this more nihilistic approach to Dice17's work seems to imply that he feels that meaninglessness is an inherent trait in the original post. But if this is so, why would he, himself, also post, given his philosophical viewpoint that purpose does not exist within the context of the existence of this thread? The answer is simple: Mr. 17 goes on to make an argument based on probabilities when he says "considering the scale of the community". This is much more likely, especially since the scale of the community leans heavily towards a percentage of SC2 gamers that heavily dwarfs the BW population [ citation needed]. If this is, indeed, the case, Dice is not suggesting utter and complete pointlessness, which affirmed by his words "a bit", and that there is some point-worthy quality to the blog, that the pointlessness is massive in scale, but not infinite. It has been asked by scholars throughout much of the post-SC3-blog-era: " Why?" The question as to why he wrote these words will probably never be fully known; a mystery lost to the passing of ages. However, we can discuss the possibilities and implications of the possibilities as to why Dice17's famous words, " To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today" were uttered and echoed through the corridors of history. Perhaps he was suggesting that the original post should never have been posted to begin with. This is a leap of faith, but George Moorebrooke, an author and scholar during the late post-SC3-blog-era suggests, " Perhaps Dice17 was expressing disgust that the blog had been posted, and his disdain for the original post was so great that he was compelled to speak out aggressively against it. It is also possible that by doing so, he hoped that his work would dissuade similar works from being scripted in the future." More contemporary historians maintain that Dice17 was an advocate of free speech, and was not opposed directly to the posting of the SC3 blog, but rather had decided to voice an dissenting opinion as part of his belief that all viewpoints should be considered. I would have to ask of this though: was Dice17 really voicing dissent, or are historians simply misinterpreting his work based on their philosophical viewpoints? The only one who would really know would be Dice17 himself. No matter how his work and comment are viewed by the international intellectual community, it is quite clear that Dice17's voice was instrumental in influencing a generation, and his works, to this day, are fascinating and intellectually stimulating enough to be put under the microscope of society, to be gazed upon in awe, even as his words themselves elude our collective cerebral grasp, and coyly evade the brightest of our minds today. Thank you. Do you still stream or play BW? Why, yes I do!
What time do you usually stream? You're probably my fav. blogger.
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On August 12 2012 10:49 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 10:07 ninazerg wrote:On August 12 2012 10:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 12 2012 09:44 ninazerg wrote:On August 12 2012 08:40 Dice17 wrote:
To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today Thanks for this superb reply. I will attempt to respond, but you can't expect me to match your level of wit or intelligence in regards to forum posting, so bear with me. Now, when you say that ranting about SC2 and BW "seems a bit pointless", I can only come to three conclusions: 1. Seems a bit pointless - If this is the case, then you are pointing out that while you find BroodWar's struggle for significance to be valiant, it seems to you that the battle is insurmountable, and you see no victory in sight. To that I can say: Yeah, you're right. Nothing lasts forever. 2. Seems a bit pointless - In this alternative interpretation of your post, you are asserting there is a bit of pointlessness to ranting, albeit only a very small amount of pointlessness, as the highlighted text suggests. That would seem to indicate to me that you're saying that a majority of the blog is point-worthy, and small percentage of the blog is worthy of zero points, but given the context of your entire post, I find this interpretation to be the least likely. 3. Seems a bit pointless - Emphasis on pointlessless, this more nihilistic approach to Dice17's work seems to imply that he feels that meaninglessness is an inherent trait in the original post. But if this is so, why would he, himself, also post, given his philosophical viewpoint that purpose does not exist within the context of the existence of this thread? The answer is simple: Mr. 17 goes on to make an argument based on probabilities when he says "considering the scale of the community". This is much more likely, especially since the scale of the community leans heavily towards a percentage of SC2 gamers that heavily dwarfs the BW population [ citation needed]. If this is, indeed, the case, Dice is not suggesting utter and complete pointlessness, which affirmed by his words "a bit", and that there is some point-worthy quality to the blog, that the pointlessness is massive in scale, but not infinite. It has been asked by scholars throughout much of the post-SC3-blog-era: " Why?" The question as to why he wrote these words will probably never be fully known; a mystery lost to the passing of ages. However, we can discuss the possibilities and implications of the possibilities as to why Dice17's famous words, " To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today" were uttered and echoed through the corridors of history. Perhaps he was suggesting that the original post should never have been posted to begin with. This is a leap of faith, but George Moorebrooke, an author and scholar during the late post-SC3-blog-era suggests, " Perhaps Dice17 was expressing disgust that the blog had been posted, and his disdain for the original post was so great that he was compelled to speak out aggressively against it. It is also possible that by doing so, he hoped that his work would dissuade similar works from being scripted in the future." More contemporary historians maintain that Dice17 was an advocate of free speech, and was not opposed directly to the posting of the SC3 blog, but rather had decided to voice an dissenting opinion as part of his belief that all viewpoints should be considered. I would have to ask of this though: was Dice17 really voicing dissent, or are historians simply misinterpreting his work based on their philosophical viewpoints? The only one who would really know would be Dice17 himself. No matter how his work and comment are viewed by the international intellectual community, it is quite clear that Dice17's voice was instrumental in influencing a generation, and his works, to this day, are fascinating and intellectually stimulating enough to be put under the microscope of society, to be gazed upon in awe, even as his words themselves elude our collective cerebral grasp, and coyly evade the brightest of our minds today. Thank you. Do you still stream or play BW? Why, yes I do! What time do you usually stream? You're probably my fav. blogger.
I don't really have a regular time, but thank you! I've been streaming at god-awful hours of the night, like 11:30 Central Standard Time until I run out of insomnia energy and fall asleep.
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On August 12 2012 10:52 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 10:49 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 12 2012 10:07 ninazerg wrote:On August 12 2012 10:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 12 2012 09:44 ninazerg wrote:On August 12 2012 08:40 Dice17 wrote:
To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today Thanks for this superb reply. I will attempt to respond, but you can't expect me to match your level of wit or intelligence in regards to forum posting, so bear with me. Now, when you say that ranting about SC2 and BW "seems a bit pointless", I can only come to three conclusions: 1. Seems a bit pointless - If this is the case, then you are pointing out that while you find BroodWar's struggle for significance to be valiant, it seems to you that the battle is insurmountable, and you see no victory in sight. To that I can say: Yeah, you're right. Nothing lasts forever. 2. Seems a bit pointless - In this alternative interpretation of your post, you are asserting there is a bit of pointlessness to ranting, albeit only a very small amount of pointlessness, as the highlighted text suggests. That would seem to indicate to me that you're saying that a majority of the blog is point-worthy, and small percentage of the blog is worthy of zero points, but given the context of your entire post, I find this interpretation to be the least likely. 3. Seems a bit pointless - Emphasis on pointlessless, this more nihilistic approach to Dice17's work seems to imply that he feels that meaninglessness is an inherent trait in the original post. But if this is so, why would he, himself, also post, given his philosophical viewpoint that purpose does not exist within the context of the existence of this thread? The answer is simple: Mr. 17 goes on to make an argument based on probabilities when he says "considering the scale of the community". This is much more likely, especially since the scale of the community leans heavily towards a percentage of SC2 gamers that heavily dwarfs the BW population [ citation needed]. If this is, indeed, the case, Dice is not suggesting utter and complete pointlessness, which affirmed by his words "a bit", and that there is some point-worthy quality to the blog, that the pointlessness is massive in scale, but not infinite. It has been asked by scholars throughout much of the post-SC3-blog-era: " Why?" The question as to why he wrote these words will probably never be fully known; a mystery lost to the passing of ages. However, we can discuss the possibilities and implications of the possibilities as to why Dice17's famous words, " To be honest ranting about something that only people from BW will understand seems a bit pointless considering the scale of the community today" were uttered and echoed through the corridors of history. Perhaps he was suggesting that the original post should never have been posted to begin with. This is a leap of faith, but George Moorebrooke, an author and scholar during the late post-SC3-blog-era suggests, " Perhaps Dice17 was expressing disgust that the blog had been posted, and his disdain for the original post was so great that he was compelled to speak out aggressively against it. It is also possible that by doing so, he hoped that his work would dissuade similar works from being scripted in the future." More contemporary historians maintain that Dice17 was an advocate of free speech, and was not opposed directly to the posting of the SC3 blog, but rather had decided to voice an dissenting opinion as part of his belief that all viewpoints should be considered. I would have to ask of this though: was Dice17 really voicing dissent, or are historians simply misinterpreting his work based on their philosophical viewpoints? The only one who would really know would be Dice17 himself. No matter how his work and comment are viewed by the international intellectual community, it is quite clear that Dice17's voice was instrumental in influencing a generation, and his works, to this day, are fascinating and intellectually stimulating enough to be put under the microscope of society, to be gazed upon in awe, even as his words themselves elude our collective cerebral grasp, and coyly evade the brightest of our minds today. Thank you. Do you still stream or play BW? Why, yes I do! What time do you usually stream? You're probably my fav. blogger. I don't really have a regular time, but thank you! I've been streaming at god-awful hours of the night, like 11:30 Central Standard Time until I run out of insomnia energy and fall asleep.
Did bw give you insomnia? I used to have it really bad when I was younger. I was one of those newbs who believed that you'd get better by practicing more hours. I remember ling rushing 500 games straight. My goal was to have the best 4 pool in the world. I would watch the old boxer games, and they'd be like zvp, and I'd be like. FFS boxer is so bad, I could 4 pool him right now. How is this guy pro?!??!
I hope you get better.
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On June 18 2012 05:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +While playing SC2, I found it difficult to get into. The strategies were too complex, and I couldn't do what I really wanted to: focus on huge epic battles. This is supposed to be a war game, and I don't want to think about things like "Macro", "Build-orders", "Economy management", "etc". YAWN. BOOOOOOORING. I see what you did there. Subtle whine thread about being placed in bronze. Keep your head up; you'll get better in time.
Hahaha. I am pretty sure she would beat you. I have been reading some of your old blogs and I think you are trying a little to hard in some of them.
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On January 05 2013 19:39 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 05:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:While playing SC2, I found it difficult to get into. The strategies were too complex, and I couldn't do what I really wanted to: focus on huge epic battles. This is supposed to be a war game, and I don't want to think about things like "Macro", "Build-orders", "Economy management", "etc". YAWN. BOOOOOOORING. I see what you did there. Subtle whine thread about being placed in bronze. Keep your head up; you'll get better in time. Hahaha. I am pretty sure she would beat you. I have been reading some of your old blogs and I think you are trying a little to hard in some of them.
If you merely "think" I'm trying too hard, then I'm not trying hard enough.
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