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OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 21 2012 04:04 GMT
#1
Hi all, I've been playing for almost 8 months of Starcraft 2 now. I lost all five placement matches and never touched the game again until I met some gamer friends later on in the school year. I finally got the courage to do the five placement matches and lost them all over again. I have a replay in bronze and I saw the apm, it was 25. I lol'd very hard. Next thing you know, I realized how much I've improved. I've been promo'd to diamond for season 7 and havent played much though for the first month or two. I had 200 bonus pool but I spent it all in 2 days! Steamrolling in diamond probably means I'm gonna get to masters real soon. My APM is currently around 200. I can say this is fricking amazing when I have the same average APM as the pros! So have a look at your APM and use that as a skill measurement! You'll gain confidence and a feeling of self-improvement!

**
kamkerx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States264 Posts
May 21 2012 04:08 GMT
#2
you have 200 apm oh my god, do you also breath air like totaly.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 04:12:34
May 21 2012 04:12 GMT
#3
You could potentially get a lot of people telling you that APM isn't really all that important as an indicator of skill, with some hyperbolic examples to back it up (or people going along the "big whoop" line of thought). ;P

I think APM isn't something you should exclusively be trying to practice or something to be looked at purely as a measure of skill. When you get more skillful, you will improve as much as you need to in your handspeed, in order to continue improving your level of multitask/mechanics as you get better in general as a player; however, I'd be careful of viewing it as having a direct relationship skill though yes, of course it will increase as one improves and has to be able to take care of more things per given amount of time, but it's not as if APM alone literally indicates skill. It can give you a confidence boost though :D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44387 Posts
May 21 2012 04:14 GMT
#4
On May 21 2012 13:12 Aerisky wrote:
You could potentially get a lot of people telling you that APM isn't really all that important as an indicator of skill, with some hyperbolic examples to back it up. ;P


Indeed. While there's a positive correlation between APM (or is it eAPM? or EPM? whichever one is truly "efficient/ effective APM"... the one that doesn't include spamming) there's not a causal relationship (e.g. SjoW has low APM- under 100- and is still a good foreigner progamer).

But keep doin what you're doin!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
May 21 2012 04:19 GMT
#5
On May 21 2012 13:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 13:12 Aerisky wrote:
You could potentially get a lot of people telling you that APM isn't really all that important as an indicator of skill, with some hyperbolic examples to back it up. ;P


Indeed. While there's a positive correlation between APM (or is it eAPM? or EPM? whichever one is truly "efficient/ effective APM"... the one that doesn't include spamming) there's not a causal relationship (e.g. SjoW has low APM- under 100- and is still a good foreigner progamer).

But keep doin what you're doin!


I'm pretty sure I saw Sjow's APM at 150s before, unless you were talking about Blizzard's APM?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 21 2012 04:28 GMT
#6
On May 21 2012 13:04 bbrian wrote:
Hi all, I've been playing for almost 8 months of Starcraft 2 now. I lost all five placement matches and never touched the game again until I met some gamer friends later on in the school year. I finally got the courage to do the five placement matches and lost them all over again. I have a replay in bronze and I saw the apm, it was 25. I lol'd very hard. Next thing you know, I realized how much I've improved. I've been promo'd to diamond for season 7 and havent played much though for the first month or two. I had 200 bonus pool but I spent it all in 2 days! Steamrolling in diamond probably means I'm gonna get to masters real soon. My APM is currently around 200. I can say this is fricking amazing when I have the same average APM as the pros! So have a look at your APM and use that as a skill measurement! You'll gain confidence and a feeling of self-improvement!


You could use this as a pick-up line.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
May 21 2012 04:41 GMT
#7
Iz diz a troll threadz?
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 21 2012 04:44 GMT
#8
On May 21 2012 13:08 kamkerx wrote:
you have 200 apm oh my god, do you also breath air like totaly.


I don't understand what you're trying to say, are you saying it's fast? btw my eapm is around 120
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 04:48:25
May 21 2012 04:48 GMT
#9
On May 21 2012 13:44 bbrian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 13:08 kamkerx wrote:
you have 200 apm oh my god, do you also breath air like totaly.


I don't understand what you're trying to say, are you saying it's fast? btw my eapm is around 120

I hope you're not a Romanian living in Afghanistan.
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Diader
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States232 Posts
May 21 2012 05:05 GMT
#10
Wow let's all completely miss the point of this blog.

Congrats on the improvements man, keep it up! Going from bronze to diamond is impressive.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 21 2012 05:37 GMT
#11
On May 21 2012 14:05 Diader wrote:
Wow let's all completely miss the point of this blog.

Congrats on the improvements man, keep it up! Going from bronze to diamond is impressive.


The only legit guy. Thanks dude, people make my blog into shit. Who cares if my post quality is bad? English is not my first language and I don't have a thorough understanding of the game
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 05:44:54
May 21 2012 05:44 GMT
#12
I had 25 apm up until diamond.

Now in mid masters, I end games with 150 APM or so.

However, in early game spam I can get 500-550 average apm. Now if only I could maintain my spamming throughout the game.

You need to keep spamming, and your raw apm will increase a lot. I find it hard, but you gotta just keep spamming your keyboard all game. Good luck on getting even higher.
Sc2Corpse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States210 Posts
May 21 2012 05:52 GMT
#13
I also was put in Bronze after loosing all my placement matches due to no RTS experience, I am currently in Gold league after only playing 4 or 5 months, I find it hard to constantly play which makes it hard for me to improve D:

But Congratulations and goodluck on your way to Masters!
The Zombie Protoss <3
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
May 21 2012 06:14 GMT
#14
gl, keep it up ^^
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Flippin1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark20 Posts
May 21 2012 06:39 GMT
#15
lol 200 apm in diamond you must be spamming stuff for no reason... Im diamond with like 80 apm still easy, won my first 5 matches never played an rts, only played 40 1v1's overall. Can't seem to play games tho, this game is so hard playing a high amount imo overrated in hardness tho.
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imanoobcs
Profile Joined January 2012
184 Posts
May 21 2012 06:54 GMT
#16
APM can be fun to look at, but it is by no means an indicator of how well you are playing. You could simply tap a key the whole game and come out with 200 apm. Good job however on getting to diamond.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 21 2012 06:59 GMT
#17
On May 21 2012 15:54 imanoobcs wrote:
APM can be fun to look at, but it is by no means an indicator of how well you are playing. You could simply tap a key the whole game and come out with 200 apm. Good job however on getting to diamond.


Thanks dude, but it's not how high the APM is, it's the huge increase of APM what really shows how much I've improved.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 21 2012 07:02 GMT
#18
On May 21 2012 15:39 Flippin1337 wrote:
lol 200 apm in diamond you must be spamming stuff for no reason... Im diamond with like 80 apm still easy, won my first 5 matches never played an rts, only played 40 1v1's overall. Can't seem to play games tho, this game is so hard playing a high amount imo overrated in hardness tho.


Yeah you could get to masters with very little APM, but I just have really fast hands.
Khaine
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden75 Posts
May 21 2012 07:06 GMT
#19
Woah man. So pro.

You'll probably get promoted to SUPERMEGA GRANDMASTER ÜBERLEAGUE soon.
Qpad mk-80 / Logitech G9
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 21 2012 07:07 GMT
#20
On May 21 2012 16:06 Khaine wrote:
Woah man. So pro.

You'll probably get promoted to SUPERMEGA GRANDMASTER ÜBERLEAGUE soon.


Thank you
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 09:20:53
May 21 2012 09:19 GMT
#21
While it is certainly a point of improvement, it is worth noting that pros do not have 200 APM as of late. This was true when the game was newer and the less rts experienced players and wc3 players were more prominent. Currently, I'd throw a guess of most pros playing at a minimum apm of 250 to anywhere upwards of 400. From the pro replays that I've seen from the last few months, low 300 is the most common average apm for pros. Even Nestea, known for his lower apm amongst Koreans plays roughly around high 200s in the 280s~
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