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IPL4 Open Bracket Replays - Viewer Guide (Terran) - Page 2

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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 28 2012 02:45 GMT
#21
I shalt pester you no more. @.@
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 28 2012 03:09 GMT
#22
On April 27 2012 23:23 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 17:23 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
note: Jinro looked ridiculously bad in both these games

Note: you are retarded and can't recognize build order losses. Seriously want to know how I am not supposed to look bad in game 1, when it's like the hardest blind counter build you could ever do vs what I was doing --


You are a much better player than me so it's difficult for me to disagree, but I disagree with this.

Both games he did a fairly standard build (1 gate FE into 3 gate aggression) game 1 not much you can do but playing a forward bunker (to fake an FE) seemed like suicide to me considering you didn't get hardly any scouting in. Didn't even see the nexus go down (just the probe there) if that bunker doesn't get broken or is on your ramp you easily survive and would have been ahead. Game 2 an scv sees all and still only try to get away with 1 bunker. The only way T ever really survives in that case is if P is light on sentries. just seemed like really bad basic decisions to me in both games resulting in easy losses to a standard P build.

This is just my opinion, who am I to judge? I lost to Flo last MLG rofl...

Because it's fucking CREATOR fucking PRIME like top 3 PvT in the world and who up until very recently would go super safe 3 gate with robo every single game, of course I'm going to cut corners and take risks -_-

Yes, BO losses. I would take same risks again against him.
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ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
April 28 2012 03:44 GMT
#23
On April 28 2012 12:09 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 23:23 LuckyFool wrote:
On April 27 2012 17:23 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
note: Jinro looked ridiculously bad in both these games

Note: you are retarded and can't recognize build order losses. Seriously want to know how I am not supposed to look bad in game 1, when it's like the hardest blind counter build you could ever do vs what I was doing --


You are a much better player than me so it's difficult for me to disagree, but I disagree with this.

Both games he did a fairly standard build (1 gate FE into 3 gate aggression) game 1 not much you can do but playing a forward bunker (to fake an FE) seemed like suicide to me considering you didn't get hardly any scouting in. Didn't even see the nexus go down (just the probe there) if that bunker doesn't get broken or is on your ramp you easily survive and would have been ahead. Game 2 an scv sees all and still only try to get away with 1 bunker. The only way T ever really survives in that case is if P is light on sentries. just seemed like really bad basic decisions to me in both games resulting in easy losses to a standard P build.

This is just my opinion, who am I to judge? I lost to Flo last MLG rofl...

Because it's fucking CREATOR fucking PRIME like top 3 PvT in the world and who up until very recently would go super safe 3 gate with robo every single game, of course I'm going to cut corners and take risks -_-

Yes, BO losses. I would take same risks again against him.

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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
April 28 2012 04:19 GMT
#24
Fuck yea Creator!
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lolsil
Profile Joined January 2012
United States37 Posts
April 28 2012 06:29 GMT
#25
gosu stx SO STRONK <3
Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
April 28 2012 07:04 GMT
#26
Yeah Rob ya jackass geeze lol
Luck makes talent look like genius.
Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 13:26:15
April 28 2012 08:02 GMT
#27
great post, thanks for bring my attention to these replays.
rEAdY tO bE iNfEcTeD?
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
April 28 2012 09:32 GMT
#28
Thanks for this guide ! Will learn and study ! It's exactly what I needed
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
April 28 2012 21:40 GMT
#29
On April 27 2012 17:23 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
note: Jinro looked ridiculously bad in both these games

Note: you are retarded and can't recognize build order losses. Seriously want to know how I am not supposed to look bad in game 1, when it's like the hardest blind counter build you could ever do vs what I was doing --


Jinro

Why reply to the haters.

"Pikachu and Protoss are both yellow, Coincidence?" ~apexMorroW
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 23:40:57
April 28 2012 23:37 GMT
#30
I have enjoyed watching Jinro recently so I decided to look at the reps and see why he lost.

G1: losing the bunker was disappointing but he still should've come out ahead. His mistakes were 1) assuming that his tank + scvs would push Creator back, meaning he focused all his attention on his drop, which resulted in him losing the tank and 2) not moving the dropship to expo after the stalkers were warped into Creator's main. Also, Jinro should've pulled SCVs to repair the wall faster.

I don't think Jinro looked bad in G1 at all. I always like it when a player evaluates a crucial situation and decides he can focus his attention elsewhere.

G2: If you don't look at the very early game, it did look like Jinro was simply the inferior player. Creator wasn't using an especially aggressive build, and Jinro was run over. Losing to a pressure with economy behind it usually means you're very much the worse player.

However, Jinro lost an SCV at his wall, and I honestly believe he shouldn't have sent 2 scvs to scout. I always feel like the best way for a FEing T to play is to maximize economy and units and let what comes come. Regardless, he lost too many SCVs early. And losing the SCV at his wall probably set him on tilt.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
April 29 2012 08:16 GMT
#31
Thanks for posting. These tournaments take so long to post the replays that I forget what I was really looking forward to see by the time they're released. This helps with that.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Kiwiandapple
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium240 Posts
May 21 2012 11:22 GMT
#32
Hej
(sorry for bump)

Just went over the replays and thanks alot for this man, even tho tvz canbe somewhat completely dissed now (fucking queentralisks:p) i like the tvp and tvt games :o
Don't worry, that's halo!
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