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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
?????? not to mention the fact that you feel like you're deserving of higher elo simply because you used to be 1400 - news flash, it doesn't matter if you "used to be" 1400 elo, if you dropped to 900 that means that you're playing like a 900 elo player right now | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
Stop telling me ELO hell doesn't exist. We're not defining it the same way. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On April 16 2012 18:07 iGrok wrote: How I play teamfights: Q spam constantly, chunking people. Watch my AP Mid see me, think they can do the same, overextend and get picked off. See rest of team run in 1 by 1 to "save them". See team get picked off. 1 by 1. Try to escape, usually get caught. Successful teamfights are rare, but usually involve: Q spam constantly pre-fight, keeping enemy team low and burning heal CDs. Once teamfight starts, W my team then Q and auto the focus. If the focus escapes behind bruisers, focus bruisers. Stay behind our bruisers at all times. If someone gets close to me, E away and Exhaust if they're chasing me. W the enemy team as needed. Save R for runners or when our team focus is bad and the enemy is all 50% or less. Use your ult to just try to hit as many people as possible ideally just as the teamfight starts. It'll stack your passive up which'll increase your damage and generally it just does a lot more to get damage early rather than later for obvious reasons, especially if you hit a bunch of people. Don't W your team unless they're like all AD heroes, use it to reduce damage coming from the guy who jumps on you. Wouldn't worry too much about who you're hitting, just maximize right clicking and Qs without dying. Ideally you want to spend as little time repositioning as possible while never dying. Make sure you're deciding whether to go for a ie or triforce build based on the needs of the game. The two decision factors to me are - how much kiting am I going to need to do? and how tanky are their heroes? Kiting favors trinity, vs tanky guys favors i edge. Consider taking cleanse, heal or ignite, cleanse will help you soooo much in teamfights, ignite will help snowball the game really hard, heal is good vs bursty initiation you can't really do much about like flash kennen and is just good generally. Exhaust on an ad carry helps you less and less as the game goes on. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
solo queue is about making the enemy team rage at each other before your own team rages at it self | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On April 16 2012 18:29 Frolossus wrote: pick AP mid, crush your lane and repeatedly gank the other lanes then make some sort of commit in all chat about the enemy teams worst feeder along the lines of "x champion is obviously your best player right now" and get the enemy team to start attack that member of their team solo queue is about making the enemy team rage at each other before your own team rages at it self This Especially ganking the sidelanes whenever they so much as start hinting at going past the halfway. The kills and gold are one thing, the insane rage that will errupt in the enemy team is another. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 16 2012 18:29 Frolossus wrote: pick AP mid, crush your lane and repeatedly gank the other lanes then make some sort of commit in all chat about the enemy teams worst feeder along the lines of "x champion is obviously your best player right now" and get the enemy team to start attack that member of their team solo queue is about making the enemy team rage at each other before your own team rages at it self Yup, or being good at keeping your team from raging. My win percentage as support (IE, the only role where I can afford to spend time writing essays to calm people down) is almost 70%, which is rather silly. You don't need to carry to win, mearly it the quickest/most reliable way to win. Theoretically if you smash your lane 100% of the time over thousands of games you should move up the ladder. Thing is, your team/their team random whether or not they win/tie/lose is random too. | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I creeped you on lolking.net and it seems you may very well be what I like to call 'fake 1400;' that is, your highest rating was 1400 but you may have attained it while you were still earning +45 points at a time. Once you started to play more games your actual skill level evened things out and you are where you are now. (That's not to say you deserve to be below 1000 necessarily, but chances are you are closer to within 100-200 of your 'true' elo by now, as you've played over 100 games. From your OP it also may be because of you playing those 'first-time' champions like you said, but now that you've switched back to those you are good at, you should be winning again, no?) As for your various complaints about 'elo hell' and your definition of it being your own personal hell that you are not good enough to carry out of....guess what that means? + Show Spoiler + It means that you are at the skill level you belong at if you aren't vastly better than your teammates/opponents to such a degree that you alone can constantly change the outcome of a game. Now many people here and in the LoL subforum will offer tips and tricks on how to carry yourself out, who to play, how to play them, and what to do, but in the end you only need to do one thing. GET BETTER. You can choose to do this in any number of ways, but a good start would be to pick a champion that you know yourself to be good it and do your best to improve further with that champion to the level that you ARE better than your team/enemies. Another way would be to leave your mis- and preconceptions behind about your current skill level and get some tutoring from a higher level player who knows what they are talking about. There are ALWAYS things you can do to improve your play, and I am sure that there are many that you don't know about or don't know how to do well enough. I am no pro, and I am probably what you'd call 'fake 1400' myself since I've only played 15 ranked games currently, but chances are there is advice even I could give you considering how long I have been playing the game. (And to an effect, the recent completion of my +100 W/L challenge. I've been matched up against 1600-1900s in my normals recently so I imagine I've improved.) Either way, the first step towards improvement is to acknowledge that you are worse than you think you are, and that you have much to learn. Only then can you move on. Best of luck to you! | ||
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Zeroes
United States1102 Posts
Below 1500 work on your lane phase like csing and punishing. Knowing when to take cs and not take cs to prevent getting harassed and losing too much hp. Above 1500 think about counter picking and if you are within the first 3 picks try to not pick a solo lane first so that you don't get counter picked. | ||
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Rossen
Denmark177 Posts
 . But a quick tip for gettin back up there, if you ever go on a loss streak of 2 or above. quit. Stop. Play something else and resume LoL tomorrow, and if you REALLY want some LoL play unranked or Dominion. ^^. That will save you a lot of lost points due to tilt. Tust me. | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
However, it still sounds, as others said, that you are just not good enough. And there should be no way to lose the lane at all if you are a true 1400. Bot may be a bit volatile due to playing with a random. But there is no way that you should be losing a lane as you describe. You are just not good enough. Do NOT go for late game. Try to get an advantage. Especially on LOW elo, everyone will start flaming in the losing team (and sometimes even in the winning team). Get an advantage, win the lane, and then help other lanes to win. Leading your team (in a kind way) is also crucial, as it prevents tons of mistakes. Stop blaming others and just play better. If youre not carrying and you think you should be able to because you are above their skill, then play something that can carry you back to a regular level. Often it is just one hero that lets you climb rapidly, a hero that dominates the lane and makes a huge impact in the game. Ez may not be that hero. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On April 16 2012 19:13 Beyonder wrote: Its definitely true that at low elo it can be very hard to carry. I have an easier time boosting at 1100/1200 than at 900/1000 because the variance in skill is so high at 900 (a lane can be won incredibly hard, rendering the opponent/ally utterly useless; while at the other levels this is less true). However, it still sounds, as others said, that you are just not good enough. And there should be no way to lose the lane at all if you are a true 1400. Bot may be a bit volatile due to playing with a random. But there is no way that you should be losing a lane as you describe. You are just not good enough. Do NOT go for late game. Try to get an advantage. Especially on LOW elo, everyone will start flaming in the losing team (and sometimes even in the winning team). Get an advantage, win the lane, and then help other lanes to win. Leading your team (in a kind way) is also crucial, as it prevents tons of mistakes. Stop blaming others and just play better. If youre not carrying and you think you should be able to because you are above their skill, then play something that can carry you back to a regular level. Often it is just one hero that lets you climb rapidly, a hero that dominates the lane and makes a huge impact in the game. Ez may not be that hero. I do not lose the lane. Ever. Even when I start out 1-3 or 1-4, by 10-15:00 I've at least caught up. I start off bad when I'm trying to get the early game advantage and either I or the support overcommit. On April 16 2012 18:20 Itsmedudeman wrote: It's probably not because of ELO hell but because you suck ass at positioning yourself in team fights. If you're at 1k ELO there is so much you're doing wrong it's not even funny. Let me know when you end the game 19-5 and still lose, then you're in ELO hell. Your true ELO is probably closer to 1200. Anyone can go up or down 200 easily. 17-3, we did win but we really shouldn't have. They downed both nexus turrets and 2 inhibs, and then backed off 3vSoraka. This was kind of cathartic I guess, let me focus on just winning the next goddamn game. | ||
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Late
Latvia418 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
The only thing worse than not killing the most important target is for everyone to be attacking random targets. If you want to kill someone, and they want to kill someone else, I always just go for their target as I don't like to persuade asshats to not be such. | ||
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SnetteL
Belgium473 Posts
"All my teammates are scrubs, HOW can I possibly carry this? Oh I do everything perfect btw." | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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how
United States538 Posts
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how
United States538 Posts
On April 16 2012 20:47 Tobberoth wrote: Reading your post is like... the funniest thing. It just shows on so many levels why LoL is such a terribly boring game to play. People being idiots and flaming, teams dying, pushes failing, your own skill pretty much meaningless. Dude, don't go into someones blog just to shit on it. You just look like a d-bag. Just because you can lose because of your teammates doesnt make your own skill meaningless, hence the team aspect. You know, like most sports, where a team as 1 all star player, but the rest of the team sucks, so they lose a lot. Does that mean it is a shitty sport, no, it means it's a team game. | ||
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NonFactor
Sweden698 Posts
On April 16 2012 20:54 how wrote: I don't ply lol, but this post is interesting to me. From what I can see though, the ELO hell is like getting stuck in team games with shitty partners. You can be better than everyone on your team, but in able to win the game, you need to be a LOT better. So your rank keeps falling. I could see how this could be a problem. There is no elo hell. And it's simple statistics that as long as YOU play good every game, eventually you will raise in ELO. Many people just lose a few games and start screaming ELO HELL, why your true elo hardly shows even after 100 games. (But you should play atleast 100 games before you start asking what elo you belong to.) People just like to blame others over themselves. It's just human nature. And like someone pointed out, if you go 1-3 in lane at 900 ELO, chances are you are 900 ELO. My friend quit LoL and gave me his 1100 ELO account. I've been ''trolling'' as my teammates put it, up to 1500 ELO with it using unorthodox picks and playing heroes I've never tried before. Never lost a lane and probably won't untill I reach 1800-1900. The shitstorm it causes when you pick Yorick support when they asked for Soraka is down right hilarious untill they realize it's actually viable and I'm basically 2v1ing their bot lane while my AD free farms. People are just that bad. | ||
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