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Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
April 16 2012 15:59 GMT
#61
I second the guy who mentioned having a high winrate as support. It's the only role in which I have the time to actually tell my team how to carry themselves, when to go dragon, when to go baron and type out the rationale for it. Taric and Janna are great for this because it's fairly easy to do everything for your ad carry and feed him kills. if you tell him "i ping, i stun u go in balls deep" and you know what you're doing, unless your lane partner is brain-dead you should be fine. Now, winning bot lane doesn't mean that you win the lane automatically. In fact, you're pretty irrelevant if your mid and top get crushed badly due to the level advantage, but it gives your jungler 1 lane less to worry about, so that he can focus on the other 2.

I stopped playing ranked after I got 4 4v5s in a row due to disconnects. It was extremely unfortunate, and irritating on all levels. Since then, I only play arranged fives either blind or draft pick and try fun strats like jungle annie with friends playing kat (or kennen) mid. It's ridiculous how strong that shit is mid-game. As long as your top doesn't feed, you should be able to snowball the game. But I digress, the point being that ranked for me was a terrible experience and I get much more from playing troll picks with friends than getting stuck with a bunch of people who just don't have the brains to play LoL. There's much more strategy to the game than people think. If you manage to educate your team during a game (provided they're willing to listen) you should be winning around (arbitrarily thrown number alert) 70% of your games.
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9815 Posts
April 16 2012 18:27 GMT
#62
On April 17 2012 00:55 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 00:13 wussleeQ wrote:
hi there...just going to give a few thoughts... if you didn't know ezreal mid is still a crazy ass strong pick. ability to snipe people and the mobility he gives is ridiculous. he also shits on most people mid lane fairly well (pantheon rapes him though).

don't play support at low elos because your ad probably can't cs well may as well try and split it 50/50 or something

play with a i'm going to carry mentality

sorry my post is probably hard to understand

Thanks, ill try him mid. Ad or AP?

Either, but you're probably more familiar with him ad. Just fyi people will flame you for breaking meta.
boomer hands
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 16 2012 20:48 GMT
#63
On April 16 2012 23:05 RJGooner wrote:
I'm relatively new to LoL, I don't even play ranked games yet. As such I'm a complete noob, but isn't it possible that someone who is theoretically "decent" could be stuck at lower ELO's because he keeps getting matched with bad teammates? Or is dramatically higher skill on one team member enough to swing the game in his/her favor despite teammates who act stupidly?

Just an honest question forgive my lack of understanding.

it is possible, just very improbable. Given the extremely large number of people playing this game, just mathematically it's bound to have happened to some of them. However, the odds of any one person who says they are getting screwed this way actually being one of those people as oppessed to self-deluding is vanishingly small, especially since the majority of people have what is considered an undesirable elo. Also consider it just as likely for somebody to be stuck at a higher rating than they deserve. Given what the op has described of his games his knowledge seems to be a little lacking so i doubt this is the fabled elo hell striking.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
April 16 2012 21:42 GMT
#64
I know how you feel, I dropped below 1400 a few days ago and have had no motivation to play. Its frustrating playing entirely solo queue, but if you wanted to try some games together shoot me a PM and we can duo queue.

I can play everything but I hate support the most
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany674 Posts
April 16 2012 23:04 GMT
#65
in "elo hell" you need another skill on top of your mechanics: knowing your team and how to act so that even the biggest noobs function to their max potential in your team.
also as an ad carry, for a long time i was thinking that i'm doing super well, just because i cs'ed well, but there is more to it:positioning.
i noticed i fell way too early in team fights or didn't do a ton of dmg.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
April 17 2012 09:47 GMT
#66
u could just pick graves so much ezier
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