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Hey TLers! I just started a blog on blogspot and thought I could share it here, assuming that's not against the rules? If it is I will gladly also make my posts here individually and stop linking to that place, just let me know! I've been wanting to start one for a while and finally got around to doing it today. I plan to write about our government and it's abundance of power, our cracking society that is drifting further and further apart due to technology and increased seperation of social class. I plan to tie in racism, media sensationalism, corporate dominiation/greed and lobbyists. I hope you take the time to read and enjoy, any and all feedback is appreciated.
Edit: To save people the trouble, this was just the first generalized post about things I want to talk about. There will be numerous individual posts after this which touch on detailed accounts of what I'm talking about, sorry for the confusion.
http://corruptedsky.blogspot.com/
There is something fundamentally wrong with the world we are living in, most people can agree on this to some extent, though the water can become polluted quickly with every one arguing exacts. The question arises: Where do we begin? A tough question, but a serious one that needs extreme examination. Peace rallies, the occupy movement, flooding phone calls, twitter messages, and e-mails seem to be the latest trends, which have had up and down success, I suppose it's better than nothing but what do we do when these actions aren't working? We don't have a lot of options, how far do you take something you believe in? The occupy movement was quite drastic given the times and many people were hurt or arrested over it. Yes, violence came about from time to time, but it wasn't a revolt or rebellion, simply people who were sick of what is going on around us. You can't just walk up and talk to your government officials as easily as they'd have you think, our opinions supposedly matter but where do we voice them? Voting? We have to go on what is told to us by them. (why would they possibly lie to get into office?) We also have the luxury of listening to their opponents tell us everything they've done wrong, ever. I'm sure everything they say is true as well. Even if we came together as one voice demanding change from officials, the next group up for election could simply tell us what we wanted to hear, that doesn't mean they would actually do it, so what then? Why is it that blatantly lying to the people to get elected isn't a crime? If you tell us you're going to do something to get elected, it shouldn't be a question of whether it will actually happen or not. Just take a look at the recent govt problems, they can't even agree with each other, they refuse bills and ideas almost out of spite it seems. Democrats want WHAT? NO! Republicans did WHAT? NO! The circle continues and nothing changes, nothing is for the better, and truly nothing is for the people. At this point it appears our government operates on a level of greed and spite, what is the best for their group and for their purpose? There's nothing wrong with purpose, or fighting for your beliefs, I understand them when it comes to that. It's the refusal to work together as a whole when it might benefit the opposition slightly more than one's self, or god forbid, the people.
I know one thing for certain: Change is coming, it is a question of how and when. It doesn't have to be drastic or chaotic, but something is required. Our society is being torn apart, we're being divided and conquered, quite successfully I might add. What's the big story this week? Rich versus poor? Corporate versus small business? Black versus white? These are just a few examples that are being sensationalized through the media on a regular basis. How can we stand together when we can't stand each other? If divide and conquer is their strategy, not only is it tearing us apart, but it will continue to tear us apart as long as we let it. To be successful at anything requires teamwork, people must come together for the bigger picture if we want real change, and that is the only way we have any chance of repairing our divided society.
 
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What makes you think change is coming?
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Answer: Collective Individualism
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How is society being "divided and conquered"? Who is "they", who are conquering the "people", and what evidence to you have of this. To be honest this sounds like the vague rhetoric that doesn't go anywhere, which perhaps not so incidentally was constantly given by the Occupy movement, and vaguely like a conspiracy theory. You also seem to allude to to some "solution" as the result of people coming together...but you don't provide any details. Coming together for what? How will it "fix" everything - its not as simple as shouting "teamwork!" - I mean you have to have some kind of reasoning. That's the whole purpose of having different political parties; people disagree on the ideal way to run society. And I don't know how you conclude, that because the media reports on various problems, that therefore society is being "torn apart". There are a lot of good things happening too.
For example, the number of jobs have steadily been on the rise in the US since Obama took office. There has been a green revolution, and a massive growth in social awareness/interconnectedness of national and international problems. You can't just point to a few vague examples from the media, and then conclude society is being torn apart. I'm sorry to say but your post is as vague as you can possibly get...you don't provide any details or statistics for any of your points, and you sensationalize a lot of things while offering "solutions" that refer to clichés like "people must come together". You don't even provide an example for what "the bigger picture" is. ARGHHH!!!!!!
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[QUOTE]On April 10 2012 10:32 radscorpion9 wrote:
How is society being "divided and conquered". Who is "they", who are conquering the "people"
Society is being divided by our media and government alike, the seperation of power is very apparent. I thought I made that clear in the post? I guess not, but there are numerous reasons for this. Power? More power?
and what evidence to you have of this. To be honest this sounds like the vague rhetoric that doesn't go anywhere, which perhaps not so incidentally was constantly given by the Occupy movement, and vaguely like a conspiracy theory.
The evidence is all around us. I didn't make direct connections thinking it obvious in the generalization I went on about, but that's a good idea, I will provide much further detail in the future. Between racism and the capitalism taking place in the country, there is a chasm that just keeps growing, you go on to say the # of jobs has steadily increased but how bout the fact that the # is still awful? What about gas prices? The standard of living?
You also seem to allude to to some "solution" as the result of people coming together...but you don't provide any details. Coming together for what? How will it "fix" everything - its not as simple as shouting "teamwork!" - I mean you have to have some kind of reasoning. That's the whole purpose of having different political parties; people disagree on the ideal way to run society. And I don't know how you conclude, that because the media reports on various problems, that therefore society is being "torn apart". There are a lot of good things happening too.
I just started the blog, I have a lot to write about and it will take quite some time. It was the first piece in a generalized setting for what I plan to write about. I never claimed to have answer or "fix" either, I'd like to talk about it in an open forum, which is what I'm trying to do. I want to FIND the answer if at all possible, if there is one. I think it's awfully gullible to say that nothing is wrong and it sure seems like you're trying to be oblivious to what I'm talking about, maybe that was your point to fix my writing style? Thanks for the reply.
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Unlikely, revolution doesn't just happen because you feel like it will happen, if it does then it is coincidental because you don't site anything specific. You post very broad and general statements, but that doesn't support your claim very much.
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On April 10 2012 08:53 Paranoia.HoT wrote:
I know one thing for certain: Change is coming
uhh...I thought change already came.
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I'm interested to see what you say about the big claims you throw out there. I don't realy agree with a lot of them (i.e., occupy movement supporters don't really get capitalism; people blaiming the president for failing to accomplish things not within his power/means in such a limited time). But I'll look forward to see your arguments and evidence in support. Generally, I like to read things that are opposed to my view (to possibly gain some perspective) but only for articles that are detailed and thoughtful.
There are a lot ways you could probably assert your stance in a coherent manner on each issue, but I just cringe when people use a hodgepodge of generalizations strung along with emotional diction to prove a point. That doesn't do much.
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Thank you for that reply, I will definitely try to incorporate a lot more detail, you're the second person to give a response like that so clearly I'm not reaching some people. I meant to be fairly broad to leave myself open, if you read my response to the other fellow, I wanted to leave it ready to continue on. This was not some single post blog about my thoughts tied into the biggest generalization you could imagine, I hope people see that.
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what is the role of government?
what is the best form of government to minimize the effects of greed?
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On April 10 2012 14:51 Diglett wrote:
what is the role of government?
what is the best form of government to minimize the effects of greed?
Just to use these questions as an example, the questions really belie the complexity of the issue at hand. To even begin a discussion of "government" (in the United States), you need to discuss the issue from the three angles of the Federal Government, State Government, and Local Government. Each of these divisions of government is limited in its purpose and power to govern. Additionally the interests at stake between the three levels vastly differ w/ respect to the community that is involved. An analysis at the federal level will not be the same as one at the state level which again will marketly differ for the local level. This is true with regard to all things such as the purpose of gov't as well as the best form of "voting" to be implemented in order to ensure that all interests at stake are equally represented during the process.
This is what I mean by my prior comment about generalities. A lot of analysis done by people on the web tend to just throw everything into one bucket then give a two-liner as a means of justification. I would just hope that the OP will be concise and detailed in his analysis so as not to undermine it's own validity by a superficial take on a very deep and rich area of thought.
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