EPTand like it was said before me, caffeine is not so bad (actually gives you a lot of "anti oxidants"), but with sodas you get a lot of sugar.
I prefer real coffee tbh.
Caffeine and why I'm taking myself off it. - Page 2
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Inzek
Chile802 Posts
and like it was said before me, caffeine is not so bad (actually gives you a lot of "anti oxidants"), but with sodas you get a lot of sugar. I prefer real coffee tbh. | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
If you want to use caffeine effectively, use it like Felix Felicis. Well, it doesn't have to be that extreme. But use it sparingly. And when you do, realize that the side effects are likely to be significant just as the positive effects will. So consuming a lot of caffeine before sleep will probably cause some disruption. On March 02 2012 19:04 zatic wrote: You can have a good amount of caffeine every day and still sleep like a baby if you eat and live healthy generally. I think that working people and students view caffeine very differently. Workers of course drink coffee in the morning and perhaps even in the afternoon. It's rare to still be drinking coffee after 5pm. The effects will be pretty much entirely gone by a 11pm or 12am bedtime. Students, on the other hand, especially soda drinking students, are likely consuming a lot of their caffeine after 5pm. They are pumping caffeine in their bodies so that they can have good brain function after midnight and yet they hope to be able to sleep immediately after they finish their work. It's ridiculous. Even people that have developed tolerance may still have significant problems sleeping. But most likely they are going beyond their tolerance because they don't consume about the same every day. When they have a lot of work, their caffeine consumption spikes. So I think your sentence there can be interpreted too widely and I'd at least narrow it down like this: have about the same amount of caffeine every day and stop caffeine consumption 5-6 hours before bedtime. Even then, some people will still have problems. Like most drugs, random sections of the population have effects that everyone else does not have. And on the flip side, some lucky people do not have any negative effect from dependence. But I'm not sure if anyone can really avoid developing a tolerance for caffeine's positive effects. So if you really want to use it effectively, you can't have the same amount every day. If you just want to avoid negative effects, then it's certainly possible for most people to do that while having it every day. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On March 02 2012 19:04 zatic wrote: I applaud you cutting the soda, which can only 100% be good for you. But that has little to do with caffeine, and everything with the insane amount of sugar you were pumping through your body. You can have a good amount of caffeine every day and still sleep like a baby if you eat and live healthy generally. Pretty much. [unsupported embed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVE5iPMKLg] | ||
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Arthemesia
United States292 Posts
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Ation
Finland102 Posts
I'm very serious. Don't drink mountain dew or stuff like that constantly. I'm talking about continuous "small" drinking over the day and week. It will corrode your teeth over time (unless you are a mutant with super saliva that is immune to acidic effects). There will be no pause in the negative effects that will destroy your teeth if you keep drinking small portions over the day. I used to do this for couple of years and I see the results as I am 24 years old with failed teeth. Excessive sugar is also one of the worst things that you can put into yourself. It moodswings you when you hit high / low blood sugar levels. It's like a haystack that burns fast, but you want to fuel yourself with something better to last longer. It might feel great to have a hyperactive rush with 300 APM, but it also has additional effects. I can't really start talking about being 50 years old or anything like that with diabetes etc, but I would highly recommend getting your energy more naturally and more balancedly. I haven't really studied any really scientific papers or preaches, but I speak from my own experience mostly. I just wanted to write this out here, maybe not for you, but for everyone who appreciates a healthy life. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10959 Posts
Btw: I would recommend to anyone to just not drink any (sugared) Soda/Ice Tea/Limonade whatever at all to still their thirst. If you want a Coke, drink a Coke (or other). But don't drink a coke because your thirsty, just drink wather (or tea, but not black tea  ). | ||
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village_idiot
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
But yeah, as others before me said, it's a great decission to quit Soda, but I don't really believe it's necessary to quit it alltogether, I mean you can easily enjoy it a couple times a week in moderate amounts. EDIT: Reading this thread more throughoutly, I can't understand how people think coffee is so addicting. If you don't like it, don't drink it, but if you enjoy it you shouldn't quit it because you think it's unhealthy or addicting. Because that's most likely paranoia. | ||
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PreFLecT
Canada37 Posts
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adwodon
United Kingdom592 Posts
Normal amounts shouldn't be a concern to anyone and if you're concerned about caffeine intake from drinking soda all day you have things a bit muddled, as pointed out, the sugar is much much worse for you if thats all you drink. I don't drink a whole lot of coffee, I'm British for one, we drink tea but even then I don't have much, but that doesn't mean you can't happily have several cups of tea or coffee during the day, in the evening a coffee may be too much caffeine and if you are experiencing odd symptoms you suspect may be related to caffeine go see your doctor, I'm sure there would be people with an intolerance or those who find regular consumption gives ill side effects (we are all different and physiology is far from an exact science) then giving up / cutting down is probably for the best. However if you're fine and not consuming an excessive amount you're probably at more risk from car fumes, lack of exercise etc than you are from caffeine. What Nony said about caffeine tolerance is true though, people who rely on it to 'get up' in the mornings are actually staving off a 'low' rather than getting a 'high'. Its hardly a big deal though, its just caffeine and most of the western world gets on just fine with it. | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
This means that if I go to bed at midnight, I can have up to six cups by noon, or 3 by 6:00pm. Of course it varies by person though-- I know people that won't sleep at all if they have less, and people that sleep like logs after a pot in the evening. There is a lot of research both on positive and negative effects of moderate-high amounts of daily caffeing, I'm not an expert and even the experts are pretty sharply divided on it, so I won't say too much about that. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
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Aurocaido
Canada288 Posts
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Aurocaido
Canada288 Posts
On March 03 2012 00:48 FreshVegetables wrote: I feel like it's like really nuts how people in America (especially there) think that caffeine is really bad for you. I drink 4-5 cups of coffee a day. While I agree that it doesn't probably isn't healthy, but I don't see it as unhealty either. Like, there are tons of shit we probably even don't think about that is more unhealthy than caffeine. I think your just paranoid. Live the life to the fullest and if you enjoy something, just do it. But yeah, as others before me said, it's a great decission to quit Soda, but I don't really believe it's necessary to quit it alltogether, I mean you can easily enjoy it a couple times a week in moderate amounts. EDIT: Reading this thread more throughoutly, I can't understand how people think coffee is so addicting. If you don't like it, don't drink it, but if you enjoy it you shouldn't quit it because you think it's unhealthy or addicting. Because that's most likely paranoia. From my experience that last part seems untrue, (just subjective anecdotal evidence mind you) I work in the oil patch where sixteen hour days are common place. Many of the guys I work with need their two large Tim Hortons double doubles every morning or they complain of headaches and stomach pains for the rest of the day. Caffeine might not be overly bad for you, but to say its not addicting or unhealthy at all is an exaggeration as well. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On March 03 2012 00:28 village_idiot wrote: Coke and Pepsi are the best. They taste so good and are refreshing. For me, drinking coke or pepsi just makes me more thirsty and leaves a crappy aftertaste in my mouth. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On March 02 2012 19:04 zatic wrote: I applaud you cutting the soda, which can only 100% be good for you. But that has little to do with caffeine, and everything with the insane amount of sugar you were pumping through your body. You can have a good amount of caffeine every day and still sleep like a baby if you eat and live healthy generally. yea, i got myself off of soda recently, went something like 20 days before i cracked...partially because it was free lol, after tasting a coke for the first time in weeks it was a shock to my system, and i'm pretty sure i'm off soda now lol also i've never really felt healthier just from that small change -still drink 2 monsters a week though what i drink -lemonade -milk -water -2monster/week quitting soda is worth it though as zatic said it's mostly due to the immense sugar intake being healthier feels nice got to start finding more ways to be healthy lol  | ||
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Ringall
Finland177 Posts
On March 02 2012 19:19 Velr wrote: Seriously? I tend to drink like 1L of (strong) coffee a day when i'm at work and absolutely none when i'm at home or on holydays. 0 withdrawal symptomes... You guys really get withdrawal when you stop that? Yup. If I stop caffeine intake cold feet, I have a two day "hangover" :D | ||
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Spikeke
Canada106 Posts
I used to be a smoker. You want to talk about withdrawls? lol :p Though, kicking the sugar/caffeine dependacy is admirable. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On March 03 2012 02:29 Ringall wrote: Yup. If I stop caffeine intake cold feet, I have a two day "hangover" :D Don't you mean cold turky? | ||
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