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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
February 20 2012 01:13 GMT
#1
My sleepschedule is pretty fucked up right now after flying from mexico (should be GMT -6) back to europe (7 hours difference), but let me explain the situation, maybe you can help me a bit.

I woke up on the 18th in mexico around 9 AM. I was up all day and took the flight to europe at 9:50 PM. During the flight i slept somewhere between 2 and 4 hours (rough estimate) in maybe 2-3 portions. i arrived in germany at around 6 PM local time on the 19th. i stayed up till around 10 PM and then went to bed, but i only slept little if at all and got up again at 1:30 AM on the 20th (~40 minutes ago) and dont feel that sleepy. to be precise, i even won all my laddergames that i just played T_T, so i am much more awake than i would like to be.

on tuesday 21st i have an important tournament at 7 PM local time (GMT+1), so i need to be at least in decent shape at that time. other than that i have nothing important the next days.

so, what do i do now :D?

i hope you can help me!

i also sent this as a pm to whatthefat (the guy who wrote the nice guide to jetlag), but im not sure how fast he will answer, so maybe someone else can give me any good advice!

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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
February 20 2012 01:21 GMT
#2
What I do is I just fight the will to sleep. Stay up for 24 hours until the time you want to sleep. You'll probably crash for maybe 10-12 hours. Your sleep schedule should be fine after that.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 01:28:46
February 20 2012 01:22 GMT
#3
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=306556

Edit: ups lol didn't read the last part.

Edit 2: The most reliable method I have heard of is not eating for like 16 hours and then eating breakfast at the correct time, but atm you don't have much time, so that might be hard :p
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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 01:32:09
February 20 2012 01:31 GMT
#4
On February 20 2012 10:22 Latedi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=306556

Edit: ups lol didn't read the last part.

Edit 2: The most reliable method I have heard of is not eating for like 16 hours and then eating breakfast at the correct time, but atm you don't have much time, so that might be hard :p


i read the guide - but that doesnt really help me much right now, it wasnt possible to start adjusting my sleepschedule in mexico, and also it wasnt possible to make a good transition due to the time the flight was at.

also, i usually almost never have much of a breakfast, if any at all (i can feel like throwing up at times if i eat early in the morning). maybe thats relevant.
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Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 01:34:24
February 20 2012 01:34 GMT
#5
Stay up until the next night, you should be dead tired, then take a pill or something to be sure to sleep the whole night and not wake up tired at 2pm. Next day you should be fresh.
NoiR
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
February 20 2012 01:36 GMT
#6
hey darkforce, i think I can help you here. I'm a mixed martial art nutritionist and my job is helping the fighters at my gym peak at precisely the right time before their fight.

I deal with their diet and excercise routine starting from 2 weeks out and culminating with the night of the event. My goal is to have them in peak physical and mental condition for the fight. Fortunately for you, you have no weight to cut and you aren't fighting someone in a cage so you're not looking for ways out of the fight. Check and check.

However, I don't have any of the time I need so I'm going to skip to my advice. At -18 hours take a full 1 hour jog. Get your heartrate up to between 110 and 140 for a sustained period of time. This will allow you to hit the REM stages of sleep, because right now your tiredness is coming from the temperature of your brain. While cooling your brain is one of the reasons for sleep, you're going to hit better REM cycles with physical exercise. I also recommend a bath of epsom salt but this is as much for cutting water weight as it is for the sedation so you can skip it.

Sleep for 8 or 10 until -4 hours. Wake up 4 hours prior to peaking, and have a fruit smoothie. About 120 calories, nothing but dietary fiber and sugars. Prior to the contest, find a happy place in your heart. Truly find what it is that makes you happy, and if something goes wrong during the contest return to your happy place mentally. It acts like a quick reset button that you may have to hit several times during the contest.

Ryan
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
February 20 2012 01:37 GMT
#7
Just keep your Mexican sleep schedule?
So go to bed at 8-10am and get up at like 3-5pm.
After the tourney is over switch.
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
February 20 2012 01:38 GMT
#8
On February 20 2012 10:31 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 10:22 Latedi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=306556

Edit: ups lol didn't read the last part.

Edit 2: The most reliable method I have heard of is not eating for like 16 hours and then eating breakfast at the correct time, but atm you don't have much time, so that might be hard :p


i read the guide - but that doesnt really help me much right now, it wasnt possible to start adjusting my sleepschedule in mexico, and also it wasnt possible to make a good transition due to the time the flight was at.

also, i usually almost never have much of a breakfast, if any at all (i can feel like throwing up at times if i eat early in the morning). maybe thats relevant.


Hmm the method did not state if you should have just woken up or not. So I guess it's possible to eat it as lunch or something else. Don't take my word for this one though

Also wikipedia says viagra is a possible remedy when travelling to the east xD
I am Latedi.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 01:57:17
February 20 2012 01:56 GMT
#9
On February 20 2012 10:36 OPL3SA2 wrote:
hey darkforce, i think I can help you here. I'm a mixed martial art nutritionist and my job is helping the fighters at my gym peak at precisely the right time before their fight.

I deal with their diet and excercise routine starting from 2 weeks out and culminating with the night of the event. My goal is to have them in peak physical and mental condition for the fight. Fortunately for you, you have no weight to cut and you aren't fighting someone in a cage so you're not looking for ways out of the fight. Check and check.

However, I don't have any of the time I need so I'm going to skip to my advice. At -18 hours take a full 1 hour jog. Get your heartrate up to between 110 and 140 for a sustained period of time. This will allow you to hit the REM stages of sleep, because right now your tiredness is coming from the temperature of your brain. While cooling your brain is one of the reasons for sleep, you're going to hit better REM cycles with physical exercise. I also recommend a bath of epsom salt but this is as much for cutting water weight as it is for the sedation so you can skip it.

Sleep for 8 or 10 until -4 hours. Wake up 4 hours prior to peaking, and have a fruit smoothie. About 120 calories, nothing but dietary fiber and sugars. Prior to the contest, find a happy place in your heart. Truly find what it is that makes you happy, and if something goes wrong during the contest return to your happy place mentally. It acts like a quick reset button that you may have to hit several times during the contest.

Ryan


You manage to have people sleeping just after running ? Jogging usually wakes me up for the rest of the day >< Then again, we're closer to 180 with peaks over 200 than 120 bpm during that one hour...
I'd take your pro insight over mine anyday though.
NoiR
starplayer35
Profile Joined January 2012
United States40 Posts
February 20 2012 02:03 GMT
#10
oh my got jet lag sucks. i usually do that with starcraft and my scedual gets messed up
affinity
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States266 Posts
February 20 2012 02:56 GMT
#11
Starving yourself for 12-16 hours may help reset your sleep schedule. I've tried it before with a decent result.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=199539
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 06:59:15
February 20 2012 06:59 GMT
#12
I fly from the USA to ASIA 1-2 times a year and I do the same thing every time.

I stay up exactly 20-24 hours before the "longest" flight. Usually between 12-15 hours. Once I get on the flight, I wait for the first meal about an hour into the flight, go to the bathroom, then pass out.

I flew from Detroit to Japan, 12.5 hour flight, I swear to god I was so shocked it felt like a 2 hour flight only. I couldn't believe it.

Also, once I got to asia I also went to sleep for a few hours. Woke up, and felt fine.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
February 20 2012 09:15 GMT
#13
If i was you i would of when i was awake stayed up for the rest of the night and the remaining day, comes to 8/9pm you are very sleepy, then u hope into bed and boom u wake up 8/9am tuesday like a boss ready to kick some ass!
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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 11:00:57
February 20 2012 10:58 GMT
#14
I went to bed around 3 AM and fell asleep around 6 AM. Got up at around 11:45 AM and i feel okay now. thank you guys for the tips so far. i think i will just stay till late in the night now and if i dont feel too crappy go to the gym for some cardio.
OPL3SA2: i'll send you a pm, i have some more questions about nutrition and such

whatthefat told me, if i fall asleep, to avoid sunlight till 2 PM after getting up, and then getting as much as possible. unfortunately i didnt read his PM before falling asleep, as he said it would be better to go to bed later than i did.
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
February 20 2012 11:16 GMT
#15
Melatonin helps with sleeping after/during exposure to light. My 2 cents.
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