tvt I think is super tricky for players new to the match up, with all the styles, openings, early aggression tactics and the like. Over time it gets to be more manageable, and the other match ups get to be harder when z and p learn to hold attacks.

darkscream

Canada2310 Posts

February 19 2012 21:20 GMT

#22

ZvZ man. What protoss players complain about on Taldarim altar is pretty much standard ZVZ on every map - Some spammy douchebag who wants to do a 1base baneling all-in EVERY ZVZ because he'd rather win with micro than by having to deal with macroing more than 1 hatchery. I really, REALLY hate it... my micro is bad because of course, like any non-grand-master player, I focus on macro first.

I mean, I actually think ZvP is harder, but at least I get to make a couple bases before I lose in that matchup. In ZVZ its just, baneling all ins, all day, every day, no matter what I open with, no matter if my opponent scouts or not. Its horrible.

-Aura-

United States209 Posts

February 19 2012 21:33 GMT

#23

Apparently everyone is having an east time vT.

0_o

Dalguno

United States2446 Posts

February 19 2012 21:35 GMT

#24

On February 20 2012 06:33 -Aura- wrote:
Apparently everyone is having an east time vT.

0_o

From my experience playing terran, it's really fragile. Mistakes can be punished badly (no stim/late siege/late turrets vs Z). But, at high levels, it's pretty obvious that terran can be really good. It's just hard to play well.

Murlox

France1699 Posts

February 19 2012 22:03 GMT

#25

On February 20 2012 06:35 Dalguno wrote:

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This, along with curiosity, is one of the reason I made these polls. Despite what I read here and there (in stream chat mostly, I know...), I really feel that Terran is weak. But you said it better, demanding and unforgiving, and not everyone is a Code S player.

High risk high reward though, and I enjoy playing them a lot. Except when I face Protoss, where I could as well just gg at the start, really. I think I'll go try mech, watching the daily about it atm

Edit : back on topic I'm a bit surprised with Z results, I honestly thought they would place Terran as their most difficult matchup (I have a rather easy time versus Z, it feels easy).

whistle

United States141 Posts

February 19 2012 23:10 GMT

#26

according to sc2 gears my pvt is 49%, pvp 55%, pvz 60%, sample size ~1k games over half a year... no idea how I lose so much to terran when protoss is supposedly OP at mid master level :D

basically if terran is aggressive at any point between 7 minutes and 14 minutes I roll over and gg

forsooth

United States3648 Posts

February 20 2012 00:50 GMT

#27

I have the highest win rate in TvT, don't even need to check my numbers to know that. I feel pretty comfortable at every stage in the game and I enjoy the positioning wars with tanks and such.

TvZ I'm probably closer to 50/50 at. I'm not very good at defending baneling busts but other things like roach all-ins aren't that tough for me. I kill a lot of Zergs in the midgame phase by planting down extra turrets and doing exceptionally tank-heavy pushes. Late game is a bitch though. Transitioning into ghosts without dying is very hard, and brood lords feel like an auto-gg if you don't have the right units out exactly on time. I still win sometimes but it requires me playing much better than my Zerg opponent.

TvP is just retarded. I gave up on macro games months ago because bio is so dumb and the deathball is even dumber. I usually either do a 1/1/1 or a 2 base all-in with thors and banshees. The matchup is terrible in every way.

Murlox

France1699 Posts

February 20 2012 01:52 GMT

#28

On February 20 2012 09:50 forsooth wrote:
I have the highest win rate in TvT, don't even need to check my numbers to know that. I feel pretty comfortable at every stage in the game and I enjoy the positioning wars with tanks and such.

TvZ I'm probably closer to 50/50 at. I'm not very good at defending baneling busts but other things like roach all-ins aren't that tough for me. I kill a lot of Zergs in the midgame phase by planting down extra turrets and doing exceptionally tank-heavy pushes. Late game is a bitch though. Transitioning into ghosts without dying is very hard, and brood lords feel like an auto-gg if you don't have the right units out exactly on time. I still win sometimes but it requires me playing much better than my Zerg opponent.

TvP is just retarded. I gave up on macro games months ago because bio is so dumb and the deathball is even dumber. I usually either do a 1/1/1 or a 2 base all-in with thors and banshees. The matchup is terrible in every way.

A tank lover, in a nutshell (derp).

Care to share some replays of your 2 base all-in TvP? Tried to mech a bit tonight and I did last quite a lot longer than usual, banshees harass and occasional hellion run-bys seem to indeed hold the toss in his base. Still loss to mass stalkers/immo 1a after a while, but managed to push him back one or 2 times, quite the unusual stuff for me ^_^