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[Poll] Your toughest matchup

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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 22:11:25
February 19 2012 17:21 GMT
#1
Vote buttons are fixed, I just gave up on the fancy formatting :-/


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Poll: As a Protoss player, my toughest opponent is :

Zerg (34)
 
51%

Protoss (17)
 
25%

Terran (13)
 
19%

None in particular (I manage equally) (3)
 
4%

67 total votes

Your vote: As a Protoss player, my toughest opponent is :

(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): None in particular (I manage equally)



Poll: As a Terran player, my toughest opponent is :

Protoss (49)
 
64%

Zerg (15)
 
19%

Terran (11)
 
14%

None in particular (I manage equally) (2)
 
3%

77 total votes

Your vote: As a Terran player, my toughest opponent is :

(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): None in particular (I manage equally)



Poll: As a Zerg player, my toughest opponent is :

Protoss (26)
 
46%

Zerg (19)
 
34%

Terran (11)
 
20%

None in particular (I manage equally) (0)
 
0%

56 total votes

Your vote: As a Zerg player, my toughest opponent is :

(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): None in particular (I manage equally)



Poll: As a Random player, my toughest opponent is :

Zerg (11)
 
48%

None in particular (I manage equally) (8)
 
35%

Protoss (3)
 
13%

Terran (1)
 
4%

23 total votes

Your vote: As a Random player, my toughest opponent is :

(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): None in particular (I manage equally)




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Your vote : As a Terran player, my toughest opponent is :

                  (Vote): Terran
                  (Vote): Protoss
                  (Vote): Zerg
                  (Vote): None in particular (I manage equally)

Your vote : As a Protoss player, my toughest opponent is :

                  (Vote): Terran
                  (Vote): Protoss
                  (Vote): Zerg
                  (Vote): None in particular (I manage equally)

Your vote : As a Zerg player, my toughest opponent is :

                  (Vote): Terran
                  (Vote): Protoss
                  (Vote): Zerg
                  (Vote): None in particular (I manage equally)

Your vote : As a Random player, my toughest opponent is :

                  (Vote): Terran
                  (Vote): Protoss
                  (Vote): Zerg
                  (Vote): None in particular (I manage equally)


The Polls should be fully operational now, please drop a comment as to why you find that opponent to be the toughest.

Cheers!

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eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
February 19 2012 17:24 GMT
#2
cant vote for anything. says invalid session token
6 poll is a good skill toi have
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 17:27:08
February 19 2012 17:26 GMT
#3
Awww .... indeed ;( damn

edit : oh well, there goes the formatting :-(
Resistance ain't futile
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
February 19 2012 17:35 GMT
#4
I voted! TvP is a nightmare, still.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
ChinaLifeXXL
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 17:37:40
February 19 2012 17:36 GMT
#5
ZvP because I gotta do so much more, scout for pylons, ovie scout to see if he's sky or ground, once we fight I gotta deal with FFs and later collossi+FFs, DTs will come out eventually so gotta be ready for that, hold off his pressure on my third, get burrow, etc. Whereas VS terran I just mass lings with some commando mutas without even scouting. lol.

Confessions of a lazy zerg
If you can do it; you should do it every time.
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
February 19 2012 17:41 GMT
#6
Reformated back with new code, hopefully it still works!
Resistance ain't futile
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
February 19 2012 17:48 GMT
#7
Still busted.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
February 19 2012 17:50 GMT
#8
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
February 19 2012 17:50 GMT
#9
Yeah I had a hard time with the format, it should be fixed now.
Resistance ain't futile
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
February 19 2012 17:51 GMT
#10
I am a noob, but zvz seems to be pretty insane all the up through the pro's, i need to watch more ret replays
http://twitter.com/howsc
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
February 19 2012 17:55 GMT
#11
I personally can't win a TvP for my life. Either I rush with only marauders, either I end up losing to the deathball, 100%. Been watching a lot of pro vods/replays and they seem to struggle too :-(
Resistance ain't futile
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
February 19 2012 18:01 GMT
#12
TvZ for sure
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 19 2012 18:13 GMT
#13
When I play Terran, Zerg is a cakewalk and Protoss is tough. When playing Protoss it's the other way around, Zerg is a lot harder .
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 19 2012 18:17 GMT
#14
Protoss here; id say halfway between Terran and Protoss because i suck at the early game of both. If the game goes on for 20+ minutes it turns into zerg though
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
February 19 2012 18:27 GMT
#15
Invalid session token, please check you are trying to vote from a valid link.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
netherh
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom333 Posts
February 19 2012 18:43 GMT
#16
"Invalid session token" error.

But as Terran, I have to say Protoss. I used to have like a 90% win rate in silver / gold when the only build I used was the 1/1/1. But I felt like I wanted to learn to play macro games too. So my win rate dropped to about 10%.

I'm finally getting to the stage where I can trade cost effiectively against mid-game gateway / colossus blobs. I do ok sometimes against HTs if I get enough ghosts in time, but when that evolves to zealot archon, I just die.

I tend to go mech in TvZ, but that's been getting a lot harder lately. Maybe because I'm moving gradually up, but it seems like zergs are finally figuring out what to do against it (maybe because more terrans are going mech). Anyway, TvZ is something I'll probably have to work on soon.
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
February 19 2012 18:51 GMT
#17
Also get the erro.

As a Terran, I would say every matchup is managable for me. When I switched race, TvT was tough, especially since I use Bio or Biomech and playing against pure Mech was a pain in the ass until I learned how to manage. TvP is especially tough once you reach the later stages of the game, when the Protoss gets his deathball rollin', but I can win against it. TvZ is my best matchup.

When I played Protoss, the mirror matchup killed me since I didn't know what the fuck I should be doing. I used to fast expand on pretty much every matchup, but it was so hard to even expand on PvP I just gave up on it altogether and quit every PvP before the 10 second mark.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
February 19 2012 19:11 GMT
#18
I voted TvT, ZvZ, PvZ, and RvZ (I'm a random player). I only chose RvZ because I have trouble with ZvZ and PvZ, though.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 19 2012 19:19 GMT
#19
TvT, PvT, and ZvT, except I accidently clicked ZvP, and RvT.
Terran D:
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
February 19 2012 19:48 GMT
#20
TvP
PvZ
Didn't vote on Z
RvP
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