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How the fuck do you win against Protoss? - Page 4

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Meatt
Profile Joined September 2010
United States98 Posts
February 11 2012 01:59 GMT
#61
Everyone ignored the guy that gave the correct answer anyway. Someone even quoted him and then deleted the important part.

"the game below masters is quite frankly a joke and if you think balance has a major effect on your overall ranking before low to mid masters then you are flat out wrong."
There's no fighting in here! This is the War Room!
Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
February 11 2012 02:04 GMT
#62
Even though it's not my blog it feels like I'm doing the fight.

So now I'm just going to say:
Sorry everyone for my opinions.
Sorry everyone for wasting your time commenting on my horrible less-thought out posts.
After taking a good 5 minutes of break I realize that you guys are just trying to help me and help Starcraft in general and it's idiots like me ruining it.
But honestly, Protoss is really hard to beat, and I like going on these rambles and rants.

But I wish that somebody will teach me TvP, because honestly, it feels impossible for me. Coaching plz.
16 year old Masters Terran :D
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 11 2012 02:05 GMT
#63
Can we please just close this blog?

It's nothing but pointless balance whine.
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Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
February 11 2012 02:06 GMT
#64
On February 11 2012 11:05 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Can we please just close this blog?

It's nothing but pointless balance whine.


I'm sorry
16 year old Masters Terran :D
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
February 11 2012 02:07 GMT
#65
On February 11 2012 10:53 Cyclone999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 10:51 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
On February 11 2012 10:44 Cyclone999 wrote:


If it was that easy why don't you got be a Code S Protoss, and win two GSLs?


I'm sorry if I worded it wrong, perhaps I was too angry, but that's not all you had to do. My bad, edited.
Micro-wise however, add in some feedbacks and I think I hit the spot.
Let's not forget Protoss is the most forgiving in out of position, and engaging Protoss in a concave makes no difference because storm will just make your army back into a ball again when you dodge it.

You state your opinions as if they are facts...
Honestly, I feel as Protoss if I get caught out of position, and then lose my army, I lose the game, especially versus Zerg.
And the second one is just completely false, if you have concave, your units will be less vulnerable to AOE; which is the main tool that Protoss has versus mass bio.


Okay, I'm just going to calm down.
I don't want you guys to see me as a crying idiot, which is what I figure I am looking at.

If I engage at a concave, he storms, say, the entire line. I move my army back to "dodge" the storm, because dodging it would be better than sitting in the storm, correct?
The point is when I move my army back...I'm a ball again. And as we know, Terran ball = zealot butchered meat

Show nested quote +
Right there you just said it was you, so why would you say protoss is easy to play if you are making the mistakes?


Me and Protoss are suppose to be at the same level, according to MMR. Protoss can make way more mistakes than me (out of position for drops, 4-gating a 1rax FE) but in the end, they will still win because they will almost always have the superior army, late-game.


This is why most the time i dont reply to these type of posts.. but I feel like typing so I will. You and Protoss are on the same level.. SO he makes just as many mistakes as you are. However are you watching the replays and comparing your raxes to his gate ways? all i can say is SCOUT.. you see templar now you know u have to get ghosts.. you see colossi now you know u have to get vikings.. DROP make him lose stuff.. protoss does not have a good answer to most drops.. yes we can warp in your right.. but you can stim pick up move to another spot to drop and keep doing it. you need to watch the replays and see where and when to engages the army. You have to learn to control the tempo of the game. You need to learn just because he has storm doesnt mean anything, dropping delays that army from killing you.. making ghosts and microing them right makes them templars useless ... Everything you are complaining about has a HUGE argument to it. As i said 100 times its not the Protoss... we are powerful we know this, if we didn't have sentries you would win every game vs protoss in the first 10mins of a game. You have to understand why they are there..
If we didn't have templar you late game with your armies.. I Mean the point is they are in the game regardless if you don't like them or not. You have to learn what to do when they are there.
Also I think a lot of lower level players don't get the point of the game. The point of the game is to DELAY as long as you can EXPAND as much as you can and then overpower whatever race you are playing vs. Now when i say this.. small attacks are there just to delay so you can get that 3rd expo get more and more ahead.. so you can get the extra tech you need. The scouting is there for you to know OH HE IS GOING X... now i need to go Y... in order to stay alive vs his X. Its not so much about getting the biggest army and clashing with his biggest army. Its more of I NEED MORE EXPOS MORE MONEY TO OUT PRODUCE HIM LATER and win. You are explaining your games as if your getting 200/200 and him getting 200/200 and your just fighting and hoping for the best. It doesn't work like that because if he just has 1% better micro then you, you lose because of storm right? Watch your replays and learn what you did wrong WRITE it down and say I WONT DO THIS AGAIN... and DONT.
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Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 02:09:35
February 11 2012 02:08 GMT
#66
CAN YOU GUYS JUST READ MY POST


So now I'm just going to say:
Sorry everyone for my opinions.
Sorry everyone for wasting your time commenting on my horrible less-thought out posts.
After taking a good 5 minutes of break I realize that you guys are just trying to help me and help Starcraft in general and it's idiots like me ruining it.
But honestly, Protoss is really hard to beat, and I like going on these rambles and rants.

But I wish that somebody will teach me TvP, because honestly, it feels impossible for me.


PLEASE IGNORE EVERY OTHER POST.
Incidently, I didn't make the blog, I merely posted my opinion and defended it (immaturely, but still)
16 year old Masters Terran :D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2012 02:10 GMT
#67
On February 11 2012 11:04 Cyclone999 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Even though it's not my blog it feels like I'm doing the fight.

So now I'm just going to say:
Sorry everyone for my opinions.
Sorry everyone for wasting your time commenting on my horrible less-thought out posts.
After taking a good 5 minutes of break I realize that you guys are just trying to help me and help Starcraft in general and it's idiots like me ruining it.
But honestly, Protoss is really hard to beat, and I like going on these rambles and rants.

But I wish that somebody will teach me TvP, because honestly, it feels impossible for me. Coaching plz.


This is totally off topic but I'm just curious, did you play a druid in WoW?
Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
February 11 2012 02:11 GMT
#68

This is totally off topic but I'm just curious, did you play a druid in WoW?


No I don't play WoW, too scary D:
16 year old Masters Terran :D
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
February 11 2012 02:13 GMT
#69
On February 11 2012 11:04 Cyclone999 wrote:
Even though it's not my blog it feels like I'm doing the fight.

So now I'm just going to say:
Sorry everyone for my opinions.
Sorry everyone for wasting your time commenting on my horrible less-thought out posts.
After taking a good 5 minutes of break I realize that you guys are just trying to help me and help Starcraft in general and it's idiots like me ruining it.
But honestly, Protoss is really hard to beat, and I like going on these rambles and rants.

But I wish that somebody will teach me TvP, because honestly, it feels impossible for me. Coaching plz.

On February 11 2012 11:06 Cyclone999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 11:05 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Can we please just close this blog?

It's nothing but pointless balance whine.


I'm sorry


Don't feel so bad man, our emotions get the best of us sometimes, and we need vent a little, so sorry if I sounded harsh
There are various avenues in which to peruse advice and help on Teamliquid.net; you just have to look
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 11 2012 02:24 GMT
#70
On February 11 2012 11:11 Cyclone999 wrote:
Show nested quote +

This is totally off topic but I'm just curious, did you play a druid in WoW?


No I don't play WoW, too scary D:


What? I cannot parse this.
Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
February 11 2012 02:30 GMT
#71
On February 11 2012 11:24 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 11:11 Cyclone999 wrote:

This is totally off topic but I'm just curious, did you play a druid in WoW?


No I don't play WoW, too scary D:


What? I cannot parse this.


The faces on their ameboxes scary and i haz no moneys to pay for it
16 year old Masters Terran :D
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 11 2012 02:30 GMT
#72
On February 11 2012 11:05 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Can we please just close this blog?

It's nothing but pointless balance whine.

It would have been cool if the questions I asked later on got answered, but people are getting too caught up with arguing.
Hello
Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
February 11 2012 02:31 GMT
#73
My bad. kekekeke
16 year old Masters Terran :D
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
February 11 2012 02:42 GMT
#74
On February 11 2012 09:28 PH wrote:
Clearly the matchup is reasonable at levels above me. I'm not pro. I'm allowing myself to rant after losing the last eight of ten TvPs I've gotten.

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 09:09 justjuice wrote:
Is protoss OP? No. Is PvT ridiculously easy compared to TvP? Yes

That's a pretty good way to put it. -_-


Imagine if game designers balanced around people being terrible instead of people actually playing the game properly, I hate all these fucking whine posts. If you want a terrible game balanced around bad players instead of good players, go play league of legends.
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Rotcod
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom138 Posts
February 11 2012 02:48 GMT
#75
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 02:55:35
February 11 2012 02:48 GMT
#76
On February 11 2012 10:30 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 10:18 Cyclone999 wrote:


I'm not gonna insult anyone or nothing but I do think Terran would have to never win a game for like 4 months before they got their right to complain back. You know, that whole 2011 thing.


Terran QQ. We have to figure it out ourselves. Protoss QQ. Blizzard helps them. That's why every unit for Terran is utilized and Protoss doesn't need to use half of their units to win. AOE is so useful, and PvT is so easy, up to masters.

Protoss QQ wasn't even justified, "lol infestors counter deathball, blizzard plz nerf infestors"
-.-

Sure, the numbers might favor Terran, but being MVP is much harder than being MC.


Thanks for the laugh.


You're welcome.


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If terran had not been dominating so hard throughout the end of last year (GomTvTvTvT) your tears might have got sympathy from someone.

The game is hard? Good. You have room to improve. Crying over it for 2 years isnt going to make you win any more, go improve.

I would also like to add that the game below masters is quite frankly a joke and if you think balance has a major effect on your overall ranking before low to mid masters then you are flat out wrong.


He's being ridiculous, but actually the game is a lot less balanced at lower levels than at the top. The fact that PvT is such a low APM matchup makes Protoss quite easy vs Terran at low levels, since those players are handicapped by their handspeed.

I play random btw.

Oh and another thing, tournament results are kinda irrelevant if the players being discussed near the top level anyway.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
February 11 2012 03:11 GMT
#77
I still can't get this feeling of guilt of me being an idiot. I honestly hope that you guys will forgive me, I'm just frustrated over Protoss and how I always suck at engaging a deathball.

Honestly, I wish I was a better person than this, but apparently not.
And sorry to 604Starcraft, fb group, for putting up with my endless rambles and rants on Protoss.
16 year old Masters Terran :D
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 04:53:02
February 11 2012 04:52 GMT
#78
I'd be in favour of Blizzard simply removing the Terran race from the game, and focusing on Protoss and Zerg. It's more ethical to save the Terran players from killing themselves.
Drizzt3
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
February 11 2012 04:53 GMT
#79
QQ and learn to play?
"Before my time is done I will look down at your corpse and smile."-Brad Pitt (Achilles)
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 05:10:25
February 11 2012 05:10 GMT
#80
but when I was posting it, I literally immediately went from one monitor to the other and posted this. That's how on tilt I was.


I literally cannot relate to this whatsoever. I cannot understand what causes this level of frustration at all.
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