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First of all: No, I don't work for pinnaclesports or I don't advertise it, but as simple as I can say its the only site that offers starcraft2 bettings.
Hi. my name is Samuli "Fuzer" Romppanen, somewhat retired from starcraft2 "progaming" world. I was playing on Dreamhack winter 2012, assembly summer, copenhagen games, assembly winter, dsrack and so on...
Recently I've been making profit in Pinnaclesports betting site... So if there are anyone who wants to put their trust on my knowledge, this is the right blog to do it.
Here are the rules, I ONLY BET OUTSIDE GSL, if there are no FOREIGNS playing. Because I know "FOREIGNS" better.
So far I've won all my bets on IEM (4/4) and one is going to be played soon.![[image loading]](http://i2.aijaa.com/b/00721/9536374.jpg)
(50euros / bet) (Real vs violet +1.5 to Real) (Demuslim vs xlord Demuslim) (Feast vs xlord Feast) (Real vs bigs Real)
If we look the open bets at the moment:
![[image loading]](http://i6.aijaa.com/b/00984/9536324.jpg)
There are not much to say. I wouldn't bet on anyother match than to Slivko vs Snute... If we compare these players, Snute won the last bo3 by 2-0 and Slivko the one before 3-0... I've watched alot of Snutes stream and he is really good at ladder, but when it comes to "important matches" he gets too nervous. Snute doesn't have alot of lan experience compared to Slivko and Slivko is few years older than Snute, so my Call is to vote for Slivko, but the odds are chaning, when I made my bet to Slivko it was 1.92:1 and now it is 1: 7 which would propably turn my bet to Snute.
It will be really really tight match.
Tommorrow or later tonight I will post my predictions about the next round matches.
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DAY 3
Okay, we have 5/5 so far, lets keep it going.
![[image loading]](http://i2.aijaa.com/b/00833/9538551.jpg)
Well if we look the first match, Supernova vs Slivko, there are. The fact is that Supernova will win this, but the interesting question is does he win it 3-0? I mean, there are +2.5 with 2.110 odds for Slivko, which is a damn good.
Slivko lives in RoxKis gaming house, where he can practice with bratok etc. So ACTUALLY I think that he is able to take _1_ map from Supernova, maybe with somekind of cheese or something, but one map is possible and with 2.110 odds, hell yeah I'm going to put 50 on that.
I'm ging to skip Feast vs Real, pvp with these players, no way to tell whos going to win.
RET vs DARKFORCE. All I have to say, DarkForce is horrible and RET beated all the zergs on last group stage, I put 50 euros to RET -1.5 (1.935). He has to win 3-1,3-0.
The last one is Demuslim vs Violet... Oh dear... Well the golden rule is, always bet on KOREAN if he is playing agains foreign. Violet bashed demuslim last time 3-0, on IEM QUALIES. The fact is that the straight bet to Violet to win is 1.263 which is too low to make me bet on it, I'm just going to skip this one.
So, Slivko vs Supernova, Slivko +2.5, Ret vs Darkforce RET -1.5
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i wish there was a betting site that Americans could use  !!
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On February 10 2012 03:02 Xeris wrote:i wish there was a betting site that Americans could use !!
lol, I actually forgot that for Americans its not allowed... Checked the Pinnacle site and there are a big headline "Can I register as American: NO"
5/5 so far, I call that mexicanhattrick 
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I know, stupid anti-gambling laws in this country T_________T
I'd absolutely LOVE to bet on SC2 games
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Haha, It actually makes ZvZ interesting
BTW. As I predicted, Snute made some stupid mistakes at last game, prolly because he was too nervous. HE had the game in bag.
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Interesting, ive been thinking about betting on some sc2 matches myself  good to know a site for this kind of stuff!
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I wish I could use it in France...
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If I could bet on foreign sc I wouldn't even need to work a day job.
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On February 10 2012 04:18 Jetaap wrote:
I wish I could use it in France...
Aint french allowed to play?
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I have some money sleeping in my paypal account. I guess I should start betting like you since I follow the scene quite a bit. I'll have to see if its avalaible in canada (can't check now).
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I hope this doesn't spur match fixing T.T
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Gambling is a bad habit yo :/
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I'm sorta glad I don't have access to this, would be way too tempting. Careful guys!
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On February 10 2012 06:07 UndoneJin wrote:
I'm sorta glad I don't have access to this, would be way too tempting. Careful guys!
Yeah, it's one thing to do well on liquibet or gosubet, it's another to actually make money betting on games. I'm sure the company also has people following the scene very closely, and they have access to all the information you do.
In the end, it's a lot like betting on horse races, sure you can have some inside information or know the strengths and weaknesses of every horse, but so does the house, and it's their job to make sure if you keep betting you won't come out ahead in the long term. That said, you obviously follow the foreign scene closer than most TLers and you seem to be doing well at it, and I do well enough at predicting match outcomes that if it were legal here I'd be tempted to try for fun. After all, you don't go into a casino expecting to make money, you go in expecting to have a good time and not go over your spending limit.
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On February 10 2012 06:16 Ixtlilton wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 06:07 UndoneJin wrote:
I'm sorta glad I don't have access to this, would be way too tempting. Careful guys! Yeah, it's one thing to do well on liquibet or gosubet, it's another to actually make money betting on games. I'm sure the company also has people following the scene very closely, and they have access to all the information you do. In the end, it's a lot like betting on horse races, sure you can have some inside information or know the strengths and weaknesses of every horse, but so does the house, and it's their job to make sure if you keep betting you won't come out ahead in the long term. That said, you obviously follow the foreign scene closer than most TLers and you seem to be doing well at it, and I do well enough at predicting match outcomes that if it were legal here I'd be tempted to try for fun. After all, you don't go into a casino expecting to make money, you go in expecting to have a good time and not go over your spending limit.
I mean, I know alot of stuff, I watch the scene closely, I even play against most of the players, I see the recent records, I see their ladder ranks. If I deposit 100euros and go "If I lose this, my life doesn't change, but it makes watching games more fun and I actually have A CHANCE to win"
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On February 10 2012 06:18 Fuzer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 06:16 Ixtlilton wrote:On February 10 2012 06:07 UndoneJin wrote:
I'm sorta glad I don't have access to this, would be way too tempting. Careful guys! Yeah, it's one thing to do well on liquibet or gosubet, it's another to actually make money betting on games. I'm sure the company also has people following the scene very closely, and they have access to all the information you do. In the end, it's a lot like betting on horse races, sure you can have some inside information or know the strengths and weaknesses of every horse, but so does the house, and it's their job to make sure if you keep betting you won't come out ahead in the long term. That said, you obviously follow the foreign scene closer than most TLers and you seem to be doing well at it, and I do well enough at predicting match outcomes that if it were legal here I'd be tempted to try for fun. After all, you don't go into a casino expecting to make money, you go in expecting to have a good time and not go over your spending limit. I mean, I know alot of stuff, I watch the scene closely, I even play against most of the players, I see the recent records, I see their ladder ranks. If I deposit 100euros and go "If I lose this, my life doesn't change, but it makes watching games more fun and I actually have A CHANCE to win"
Honestly, winning is what makes it dangerous. Our minds naturally fall into subliminal patterns, i.e. you start putting down 100 euros on EVERY tournament you watch. Just urging caution, hf and grats on your success so far =D
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just out of interest, what is the minimum bet? Me and a few friends would like to try it with not too big of a commitment :p
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On February 10 2012 04:46 Fuzer wrote:Aint french allowed to play?
Not anymore, a recent law say that you must use french betting/poker sites. So all good sites like Pinnacle and Betfair that don't make a 50% margin on you aren't allowed anymore.
But I still bet there, it's possible.
^ I don't think there is a minimum bet, or perhaps 0.1€. You can deposit 5€ and make bets like 0.1 or 0.2€.
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And by the way, IEM betting is like the most profitable thing ever. In fact, sc2 betting is like the most profitable thing ever.
Foreign tourneys are pretty good to bet on, not a lot of upsets and skill levels easily identified.
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This goes harder and harder. Group stages are the easiest.
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Can you give me the link to the IEM? When i enter pinnacle i only see GSTL Betting... I wanted to bet on IEM too... I bet on FXO today on 1.31.. i think the coefficient is Pretty good for the real time odds
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Thank you sir I know that GSL is harder to predict you are entirely right that foreign touranmetns are ez money
Edit: I can't open the link, but I am using a proxy because I am betting from Italy and it is forbidden here... But I actually don't bet i just watch the odds and tell my friend from England to bet so its legal I gotta figure out the problem
Edit 2: I opened it with a bulgarian proxy, but couldnt open it with an english proxy. Very strange.
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There we go, slivko did what excepted took 1 map, which is enough to win. (1-1 atm) but +2.5 = 3.5 which means that I won =). ggggggg
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I'm folowing this along with iem. Fuzer your going to make so much money what will you do with it all?
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On February 11 2012 01:48 sermokala wrote:
I'm folowing this along with iem. Fuzer your going to make so much money what will you do with it all?
lol, If I'm able to raise more than 1.5k I'm going to get a motorcycle licence (I'm in Uni so I dont earn that much to be able to buy that otherwise) =)
Now thumbs up for RET
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TT Ret fails... =( 6/7 right so far. +250euros
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Ok usually I bet on football and understand those odds.... But can you explain how the hell their odds work?... God that sounds so retarded -_-
I roughly I get who's favoured but what column shows how much you'll win back on a bet?
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The decimal number with 3 digits after the dot tells you the odds. For instance if it says
Ret 2.500
Violet 1.500
Then if you bet 50EUR on Ret and win you end up with 125EUR and if you bet on Violet and win you end up with 75EUR.
If it says -x.5 or +x.5 then that means you handicap the player by adding that much to their score before deciding the victor. So if you bet on Ret -2.5 then Ret must win 3-0 (3-1 would be considered 0.5 - 1 after applying handicap), if you bet on Ret -1.5, then Ret must win 3-1 or 3-0. If you bet Violet +1.5, then Violet must not lose by more than 2-3. If you bet Violet +2.5, then Violet must not lose 0-3.
Personally I lost about 100EUR today because I bet on Feast, Ret -1.5 and Violet -1.5. I'm still up about 100EUR from betting though and am pretty confident that Supernova can win 3-1 or 3-0 tomorrow over Real.
Sometimes these foreign tournaments really have ridiculous odds. What first prompted me to sign up was during HSC IV I saw that Nightend was considered a slight favorite vs STSound (in bo3 I think). Never seen that good odds since, except maybe Idra vs Avenge which was judged fairly even if I remember correctly (maybe Avenge slight favorite).
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Ahhh ok that makes it a hell of a lot clearer!! Cheers, will definitely be using this in the future!
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Sorry guys, but I'm not going to bet semis, the odds are too bad for my thoughts =)
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