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A hilarious newbie brood war lesson

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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
January 12 2012 06:08 GMT
#1
Well, I had my ups and downs on my first week on iccup. But I ended up going 14-18 as protoss, so I'm feeling pretty damn good about that. But on my first night of brood war, something bad happened.

I was getting rolled by this one terran repeatedly doing this early marine vulture tank push early on. But my sc2 instincts told me "Hey, if you just kill his marines, he'll have nothing to shoot up!" So my next instinct was to go double stargate scout with some gateways. I even thought it would be smart if I get a +1 weapons upgrade for them! So his push comes on Fighting Spirit and I engage with my zealot dragoon and kill off all the marines! Leaving a handful of vultures and around five tanks. I then swoop in with my five +1 attack scouts and shoot at the tanks. And nothing is really happening, nothings dying. It takes me like 15 seconds to kill a tank. And by then, all my probes are dead and my friend is laughing at me.

So the lesson here is to not build scouts with +1 attack to hold off early marine tank vulture pushes. I wish I had the replay still to do a battle report style, but I forgot to save it ><.

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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
January 12 2012 06:11 GMT
#2
Scouts, you gotta love em!

I love it when I have those facepalm moments with friends. So funny!
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Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
January 12 2012 06:12 GMT
#3
hahaha, thanks for the nostalgic feeling I had for scout.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 12 2012 06:18 GMT
#4
Clearly you needed +2 air attack. That would've taught your buddy a lesson.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 12 2012 06:20 GMT
#5


I believe this is related
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
January 12 2012 06:20 GMT
#6
scouts man...
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cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
January 12 2012 06:24 GMT
#7
scout, the most useless bw unit XD
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
January 12 2012 06:54 GMT
#8
If you open DTs then build carriers instead of scouts that would probably come much closer to winning.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
January 12 2012 07:28 GMT
#9
On January 12 2012 15:08 TBone- wrote:
Well, I had my ups and downs on my first week on iccup. But I ended up going 14-18 as protoss, so I'm feeling pretty damn good about that. But on my first night of brood war, something bad happened.

I was getting rolled by this one terran repeatedly doing this early marine vulture tank push early on. But my sc2 instincts told me "Hey, if you just kill his marines, he'll have nothing to shoot up!" So my next instinct was to go double stargate scout with some gateways. I even thought it would be smart if I get a +1 weapons upgrade for them! So his push comes on Fighting Spirit and I engage with my zealot dragoon and kill off all the marines! Leaving a handful of vultures and around five tanks. I then swoop in with my five +1 attack scouts and shoot at the tanks. And nothing is really happening, nothings dying. It takes me like 15 seconds to kill a tank. And by then, all my probes are dead and my friend is laughing at me.

So the lesson here is to not build scouts with +1 attack to hold off early marine tank vulture pushes. I wish I had the replay still to do a battle report style, but I forgot to save it ><.


You should try the same but with carriers. 1 base carrier is a pretty legit strat in the middle ranks even.
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Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
January 12 2012 07:39 GMT
#10
The Stove is where it's at. You can actually win games at the D+/C- level sometimes if the Terran doesn't see it coming - at the very least, it's quite annoying to play against since it requires more precise turret and/or mine placement and a lot of lower level sloppy Terrans can get punished for it.
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
January 12 2012 08:32 GMT
#11
DADADADA~

You need more harass, less push. Scouts work if you know where to put them.
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surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
January 12 2012 09:15 GMT
#12
On January 12 2012 15:20 ArvickHero wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQwtualdvrA

I believe this is related

That game! Ahahah, total humiliation!
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
January 12 2012 09:30 GMT
#13
Scouts... Faking to be viable since 1998.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 12 2012 09:44 GMT
#14
If you were using the iccup launcher, the replay was probably automatically saved under the Autoreplay folder !
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
January 12 2012 10:00 GMT
#15
Could I suggest changing races and using Siege Tanks as the counter to just about everything, well unless they make Zealots/Shuttles/DT's/Carriers/SCOUTS or Mutas/Guardians <:
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 12 2012 11:28 GMT
#16
On January 12 2012 19:00 bITt.mAN wrote:
Could I suggest changing races and using Siege Tanks as the counter to just about everything, well unless they make Zealots/Shuttles/DT's/Carriers/SCOUTS or Mutas/Guardians <:


Siege tanks <3 the only reason I play terran lol XD
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
January 12 2012 14:01 GMT
#17
One time you can use them for fun is BGH games against passive opponents, it's nice to mess around going straight 3stargate speed scouts.

Personally i had one game where they became useful in a very specific PvZ situation too.. i was trying to hold a ramp for a base with the only minerals left, and guardians were on the way to kill off cannons/reavers. And wow the scouts air to air is so strong and the cannons stop scourge the big weakness. I used them now and then in games from then on to hold islands better and things like that, and some later game overlord/drone hunting is nice too.
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