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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
December 22 2011 20:29 GMT
#1
I;ve been losing badly.

The three days before S5 began I had a close to 60% win ratio. The moment season 5 begins I get promoted to masters and I'm losing ... a lot. I have 52 games and 21 wins. Its terrible.

I keep hitting the play button and I keep losing. Either because I play poorly or I get cheesed. Over half my games vs. Zerg have been six pools or roach ling all ins. A third of my vs protoss games have been cannon rushes or proxy gates I don't scout in time.

Maybe I should take a break from the game for a few days and come back after christmas? I don't even know why Im playing so poorly. My MMR is dropping and I even played a plat yesterday.

Am I just overthinking things? Maybe I'm too worried Ill drop out of masters and its causing performance anxiety for me?

Just need to vent a little and see if other people have had similar experiences when a new season begins and they get promoted.

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pgmcnerney
Profile Joined March 2011
United States34 Posts
December 22 2011 20:44 GMT
#2
Don't worry too much it's a standard of improvement. For example, you have overcome obstacles that allowed you to be promoted from diamond to masters. Now you must overcome the new obstacles that await in masters league. Not any drastic problems, just means you need to more carefully evaluate your games and determined what these new obstacles are, and then develop a plan to overcome each one at a time!
Happly laddering. GLHF!
we are eternal. all this pain is an illusion.
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 21:07:39
December 22 2011 20:46 GMT
#3
Hey,
I have had similar or even worse experiences. Take a break, really! Last time I was the verge of masters was the end of season 3, i was climbing in my diamond division and was playing only masters. Then I finally got #1, and decided to play customs (was few days before end of the season, figured would look nice to be #1 at the end of the season). Anyway I accidently played a quick match, lost to a proxy, went on tilt, and lost like 40 games with maybe 5 wins here and there.. ended up like top 50 lol instead of top 8 or #2 if i just let it go..

Anyway its a mix of things. #1 you are playing better players, theres no way around that if your mmr climbs. This is good, as you might lose a bit, but also improve.. #2 you are probably also tilting a bit right now and playing like crap. Dont do what I did, take a few days off, play customs? when your mind is clear go back to ladder, if you feel like ur playing fine, even if you are losing, your mmr will adjust and ull be back to 50% or so soon. + you are improving. If you know you are playing way sub par don't spam ladder, especially if points worry you.
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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 20:59:13
December 22 2011 20:57 GMT
#4
If it is of any consolation alot of ppl have bad winratio in the beginning of the ladder. I see progamers all the time with more losses than wins

It'll even out later in the season. I remember at the start of season 4 i got really frustrated because i had 7-10 or something then i realized SjoW (and many many others) had even worse stats
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#5
Just play for fun...
Jaedong :3
Trevoc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
December 22 2011 21:08 GMT
#6
Season resets always bring a shitstorm to my W/L ratio too man.. hang in there
There is no limit.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
December 22 2011 21:09 GMT
#7
Either because I play poorly or I get cheesed


No, no, no. If you lose to cheese, you did play poorly. "Cheese" is the easiest thing in the game to hold off, and if you haven't figured out how, then you deserve to lose.

Also, did you expect it to get easier in a higher league?
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
December 22 2011 21:33 GMT
#8
Read up on how each of your (I'm assuming you're \\\ PROTOSS ///) matchups has evolved. Get VODS, get REPLAYS, get BLUE POSTERS OF AWESOMENESS, and try your best to understand how the pros handle / get manhandled by the various crap that has been bringing you down.

Since advice / help me threads are usually clogged with crap, try searching the post history of BLUE POSTERS such as CecilSunkure and friends. I often find individual posts on certain topics to be even more helpful than well-written guides.

Play your games in batches, and avoid tilting at all costs. Playing when mad does nothing for you; watch someone else play.
"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
December 22 2011 21:41 GMT
#9
When I lose a lot of games in a row, I take a break from ladder for a day or two and play against some friends and practice partners. It's pretty fun, and it's a good way to get rid of tilt. It's still early in the season, so if I were you I'd take a little time off the ladder and play some games where you don't get cheesed to feel a bit better.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
December 22 2011 21:44 GMT
#10
you're 50% win ratio you're exactly where you should be ( in theory)

none the less I know your feeling I was smashing master leaguers a week ago and then one day I just hit inconsistency, ended the season as rank 25 diamond. a week ago I was sure I was on route to promotion.

I guess that's what separates pro gamers and better gamers from casuals though, aside from superior play it'd be consistency
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
December 22 2011 21:46 GMT
#11
On December 23 2011 06:44 Denzil wrote:
you're 50% win ratio you're exactly where you should be ( in theory)

none the less I know your feeling I was smashing master leaguers a week ago and then one day I just hit inconsistency, ended the season as rank 25 diamond. a week ago I was sure I was on route to promotion.

I guess that's what separates pro gamers and better gamers from casuals though, aside from superior play it'd be consistency


21/52 = ~40. He's at a 40% win ratio, which over the course of many games (in this case 52) indicates a slump. This is why I'd recommend he take a break from the ladder.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
December 22 2011 21:48 GMT
#12
On December 23 2011 06:46 Blazinghand wrote:
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On December 23 2011 06:44 Denzil wrote:
you're 50% win ratio you're exactly where you should be ( in theory)

none the less I know your feeling I was smashing master leaguers a week ago and then one day I just hit inconsistency, ended the season as rank 25 diamond. a week ago I was sure I was on route to promotion.

I guess that's what separates pro gamers and better gamers from casuals though, aside from superior play it'd be consistency


21/52 = ~40. He's at a 40% win ratio, which over the course of many games (in this case 52) indicates a slump. This is why I'd recommend he take a break from the ladder.


shit sorry didn't do the maths, looked pleasingly correct at a glance my bad.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
December 22 2011 22:12 GMT
#13
I've always found my winrate at the start of ladder seasons takes a nosedive, then bounces back. I seem to lose to a lot of random bullshit - maybe people are trying to rush out wins. In any case, once I get more used to it, I start winning at a more normal rate.

Take a break, play some customs, watch your loss replays, and get back into it.
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 22:19:37
December 22 2011 22:15 GMT
#14
Yeah ZeromuS you gotta step back from the ladder and play customs for a bit. Play squadron TD, then play some custom Shakuras, etc.

I do it that way when I lose because I am really stressed out about winning and moving up in rank, and losing on the ladder stresses me out because I want to be better than I am. I've often returned to the ladder either later in my gaming session or the next day with a clean slate (flush those losses from your mind because they make you go into the next game being paranoid about having it happen again and that keeps you from concentrating on playing a good game) and gave a much better showing.

Also, I am playing CGs (custom games but still 1v1 melee) more than laddering and the stress is gone. I get apm practice, I can play with clear head, and I save some bonus pool. I used to mass ladder but have found I enjoy this approach much more.

I was mid masters since release (around that level when masters wasn't available), and never practiced with anyone else or was ever coached. Now I am looking into practicing with a few people that are better than me because my previous approach hasn't been working. I suggest finding a few practice partners; a lot of people prefer to practice over laddering because in practice you can hammer out 6 games vs same race on same map in a short period of time and get really good at it.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 22 2011 22:23 GMT
#15
Hey guys I started playing people who are better but now I'm losing more often than I did before, I don't understand!
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
December 22 2011 22:26 GMT
#16
On December 23 2011 07:23 Chef wrote:
Hey guys I started playing people who are better but now I'm losing more often than I did before, I don't understand!

How do you qualify that they're better if he was masters before, is masters now, and mmr was never reset? They're the same people he's been playing.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 22 2011 22:34 GMT
#17
MMR doesn't mean skill. Sometimes you'll randomly play against people who are better than you. Losing streaks happen. Sometimes you go on tilt, sleep it off.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
December 22 2011 22:39 GMT
#18
On December 23 2011 07:26 tehemperorer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 07:23 Chef wrote:
Hey guys I started playing people who are better but now I'm losing more often than I did before, I don't understand!

How do you qualify that they're better if he was masters before, is masters now, and mmr was never reset? They're the same people he's been playing.


if he's losing to them they're better
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JMC4
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States261 Posts
December 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#19
During the beginning of the season people tend to cheese alot so you're bound to lose a couple games because of that, as you said you have.
Diamond Protoss ~
Mr. Black
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
December 22 2011 22:40 GMT
#20
I took a short break at the end of S 4, and I finished high in my division. I started playing team games off-race for fun. Now that I'm back, its like I forgot how to play the game. I don't think I've won yet this season. I was definitely close to being promoted at the end of S 4 (always playing favored players).

Now I am terrible! Oh well. Just have to keep at it and remember that a couple of days of is good, but more than 5 or so days and it starts to mess with your mechanics.
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