• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:00
CEST 06:00
KST 13:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview22Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates6GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th Serious Question: Mech
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Cheeseadelphia 2025 - Open Bracket LAN! $25,000+ WardiTV 2025 Series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I made an ASL quiz
Tourneys
[BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET [ASL19] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Monster Hunter Wilds
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Research study on team perfo…
TrAiDoS
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 19699 users

More mind fuck than Inception... - Page 2

Blogs > GTR
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
December 04 2011 20:01 GMT
#21
On December 05 2011 04:57 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 04:37 Chargelot wrote:
MGS4 was basically mind fuck the movie

You'll see what I mean by "the movie".

Oh, don't act mysterious. Everyone knows these games are 90% cutscene.

I once saw a picture, which for the life of me I can't find again, that had the box art of MGS4 with "Playable Edition" photoshopped onto it. Pure brilliance.

But even for a movie/game hybrid, it's still amazing. It's definitely only for hardcore fans of the series though.
if (post == "stupid") { document.getElementById('post').style.display = 'none'; }
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
December 04 2011 20:08 GMT
#22
Actually this is why MGS2 is such an interesting piece. The majority of the mindfuck comes from playable things: the map doesn't work (tells you you are in a "stomach" or a "leg"), the major calls you non-stop to tell you about giants space worms and that he " need[s] Scissors! 61!", so many things that leave the player speechless.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
December 04 2011 20:13 GMT
#23
MGS4 doesn't follow through on the promise of MGS2.

Oh shi- patriots have been dead? Ok, let's do MGS3...

+ Show Spoiler +
where we deus ex in some bullshit to tie the original NES game into the overarching story so that we can pretend it was all our thought all along


Then let's do MGS4...

+ Show Spoiler +
Where we try to make MGS3 worthwhile and follow through on the amazing cliffhanger of MGS2 to absolutely no success.


The best part of MGS4 is the graphics and the amazing last fight. Everything else failed imho.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Qumquat
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel353 Posts
December 04 2011 20:21 GMT
#24
Damn, I want to play it for my first time again XD
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 20:42:47
December 04 2011 20:33 GMT
#25
On December 05 2011 03:24 Kukaracha wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh yeah.

Fuck... yeah.


I remember playing through the end of MGS2. It was night time. I had spent hours on it already. Then everything turns insane and my frigging game tells my I've been playing for too long, and I should turn the console off.
While displaying false game over screens. While the in-game instructor tells me about his last restaurant meal.

Just. Pure. WTF. It's like the essence of WTF. It's like being in a dark room and a giant chair asks you to be his date on Thankstaking day.

And then, philosophy. My first introduction into contemporary philosophy of the new virtual era. The first serious criticism of mass-media I saw done by a mass-medium itself.



To anyone who has not played through the end of MGS 2. Do it. You might not like the game. But that part is history.
I'm actually reading Philosophy of video games, and the epilogue... follows this ending as an example. Pretty sick, I tell you.

I completely worship that video gaming moment. I could sacrifice someone to it.

Yeah.. when I first started playing MGS2 alone (a friend and I would take turns playing it through~) that part you bolded seriously scared the crap outta me I was 12 and at that time it was just so freaky lol~ it was at night too (((((( But as curious as I am I kept calling the Colonel over and over just to listen to more mindfuck stories... especially the part where he was talking about driving or something? That story literally made me go "THE FUCK?" Also if you notice Rose's eyes change to a white / light blue color.. damn so good I love MGS2.
On December 05 2011 04:37 Chargelot wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MGS4 was basically mind fuck the movie

You'll see what I mean by "the movie".
But I am a huge fan of the series, been playing it since I was like 6 years old back in '98 or whenever the first one came out.
There's a shit ton of cutscenes in the previous games... but MGS4 was a true movie lol.
ps. that first video will make 100% more sense when you play through MGS4

On December 05 2011 04:57 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 04:37 Chargelot wrote:
MGS4 was basically mind fuck the movie

You'll see what I mean by "the movie".

Oh, don't act mysterious. Everyone knows these games are 90% cutscene.

I'm gonna agree only with MGS4 on this part lol the others don't even compare to it~ Man MGS is just a beautiful series... just the atmosphere it has it's so good mm..

Also GTR have you ever spammed called people in MGS2? You get some really really interesting stories depending on when you call and how frequent during the game~ especially from Rose LOL. Have you ever used the directional microphone thing to uncover some funny scenes as well?
Oh and wtf did they do to Raiden in MGS4? They like completely destroyed him.. not story-wise but character-wise. I forgot why they had a Rose AI too..
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
December 04 2011 20:50 GMT
#26
All i remember from MGS are all the jokes and Easter eggs in the game. I only got the 'story' when they put up the MGS database on PSN
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
December 04 2011 21:34 GMT
#27
On December 05 2011 05:08 Kukaracha wrote:
Actually this is why MGS2 is such an interesting piece. The majority of the mindfuck comes from playable things: the map doesn't work (tells you you are in a "stomach" or a "leg"), the major calls you non-stop to tell you about giants space worms and that he " need[s] Scissors! 61!", so many things that leave the player speechless.


All while you're naked, running around heavily armed guards and surrounded by a dozen or so Metal Gears.
if (post == "stupid") { document.getElementById('post').style.display = 'none'; }
Sgonzo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada202 Posts
December 04 2011 22:00 GMT
#28
On December 05 2011 03:10 Chef wrote:
I watched Chip Cheezum and General Ironicus LP all the games and I can safely say it's just extremely silly and dumb lol

edit: I liked Inception but I couldn't call it a mind fuck... Probably because it took a lot of ideas from Solaris (I don't know about the movie, but the book it did) but didn't develop on them as much and so just kind of seemed like a cheap version of solaris with MATRIX DREAMS. lol. and a dumb 'or was iiiit???' ending... hahahaha


actually, Christopher Nolan has stated his inspiraiton for inception was the anime movie Paprika, if you watch it you will see
When Keepin It Real Goes Wrong
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
December 05 2011 00:06 GMT
#29
Damnit GTR. Now I have to go back and play all the Metal Gears I own -.- Actually... I might as well thanks for making me want to lol
LiquidDota Staff
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 00:29:57
December 05 2011 00:28 GMT
#30
Ahh..mgs series <3. I actually liked 2 the best(closely tied with 3), I didnt like the feminine raiden too much, but I didnt see that as being a huge negative to the game. It has some typical kojima like speeches towards the end.

One of the best moments in the game is the part where your commander goes nuts.("You have been playing this game for far to long!, turn off your ps2 now! :D"). And also..FISSION MAILED! lolol!

The pacing of 3 is awesome,but you'll need to be a fan of the series to play that game. Felt like a james bond movie or something.
I think 4 was actually the worst of the lot, didnt have that single area/lone wolf feel to it, the claustrophobic feel of mgs was one of the best things in the series, so the openness of it felt a little weird.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 05 2011 00:32 GMT
#31
I was 4 minutes too late! FISSION MAILED!

Never forget :D (Even if Raiden is a total bitch and MGS2 kinda sucked- those parts were the best.)
MGS3 was more of a favorite but by that time MGS had turned to full on crazy talk. Still, one of the greatest series of video games ever and a Metal Gear-MGS(1) is a personal favorite.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 21:13:10
December 05 2011 04:37 GMT
#32
On December 05 2011 07:00 Sgonzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 03:10 Chef wrote:
I watched Chip Cheezum and General Ironicus LP all the games and I can safely say it's just extremely silly and dumb lol

edit: I liked Inception but I couldn't call it a mind fuck... Probably because it took a lot of ideas from Solaris (I don't know about the movie, but the book it did) but didn't develop on them as much and so just kind of seemed like a cheap version of solaris with MATRIX DREAMS. lol. and a dumb 'or was iiiit???' ending... hahahaha


actually, Christopher Nolan has stated his inspiraiton for inception was the anime movie Paprika, if you watch it you will see

I have seen Paprika. The romance thing is definitely jacked from Solaris, it's the exact same plot just sidelined because WOWSPESHULEFFECTS (which to be honest is the only reason to watch Inception). Paprika could be called a mind fuck though, I guess. It's more just JAPANLOL to me though (not in a derogatory way, but in a I recognise these themes and can grapple with them knowing they are Japanese way). I also have very little doubt Christopher Nolan wasn't at least a little bit inspired by the Matrix though, considering they are directed very similarly and have similar style in general. Honestly I think he said Paprika just because he wanted to seem cultured lol.

edit: not to mention how much easier it is to compare the Matrix and Inception than it is Paprika and Inception. The 'dream' attacks you when it thinks you're threat. Matrix. The question of 'are you really awake?' Matrix. Really inception is also a bit of a simplified version of the Matrix too. So basically Inception borrows from a lot of different places and simplifies them into something the dulled (by countless contentless hits) audiences of the new century can process.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
THE_DOMINATOR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
December 05 2011 07:17 GMT
#33
mgs2 is the best of the series though it is often misunderstood/not understood.
DOMINATION
IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
December 05 2011 10:48 GMT
#34
lol mgs2 was a total mind fuck back when i played it.... i remember wondering whether or not i actually had to turn my ps off..... and when you had to switch your controller to port 2 vs the one boss so he couldn't "read your mind" was pretty awesome.
Evil Geniuses needs a LoL team.... Pobelter/Altec fan
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
December 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#35
A good piece of mindfuck too (yes, it's MGS3):

Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 05 2011 12:03 GMT
#36
mgs 2 it bring back ton's of memories , Rose was quite real to me through out the whole codec and the most memorable quote from raiden regarding his relationship with rose was " If you want love to boom send them to war "
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
December 05 2011 12:36 GMT
#37
I can't let an MGS thread exist without.....TIME PARADOX.



At least the developers understand just how screwed up the storyline is. Kojima is either insane or a genius. Quite possibly both.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 13:31:02
December 05 2011 13:30 GMT
#38
Holy shit, I was curious if anyone ever started a topic on the brave new world.

This is what I found:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=174301
Look at the post date!
Exactly one year ago!

OP, you are onto something! ô.o
Sgonzo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada202 Posts
December 05 2011 23:23 GMT
#39
On December 05 2011 20:54 Kukaracha wrote:
A good piece of mindfuck too (yes, it's MGS3):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCfrWhRI8mE


this si the river part yeah?
When Keepin It Real Goes Wrong
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #15
ArT vs ReBellioNLIVE!
Liquipedia
Replay Cast
00:00
StarCraft Evolution League #12
CranKy Ducklings132
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 219
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 217
PianO 163
Leta 79
910 65
NaDa 58
Backho 40
Noble 25
Dota 2
monkeys_forever599
NeuroSwarm134
League of Legends
JimRising 792
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1940
Stewie2K1178
taco 574
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang01027
Other Games
summit1g9611
shahzam1065
ViBE247
Mew2King165
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1197
BasetradeTV79
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH307
• practicex 45
• davetesta33
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4473
• Lourlo616
• Stunt150
Other Games
• Scarra811
Upcoming Events
Bellum Gens Elite
6h
WardiTV Invitational
10h
BSL 2v2 ProLeague
15h
Replay Cast
20h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
SC Evo League
1d 8h
Bellum Gens Elite
1d 8h
Fire Grow Cup
1d 11h
CSO Contender
1d 13h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 14h
StRyKeR vs MadiNho
Cross vs UltrA
TT1 vs JDConan
Bonyth vs Sziky
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
1d 20h
SOOP Global
1d 23h
Creator vs Rogue
Cure vs Classic
SOOP
2 days
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
AllThingsProtoss
2 days
Fire Grow Cup
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL Code S
5 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL Code S
6 days
herO vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
NC Random Cup
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.