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More mind fuck than Inception...

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 17:58:24
December 04 2011 17:55 GMT
#1
So I bought Metal Gear Solid HD Collection for my PS3 a week ago, and I decided to replay MGS2 first. The last time I finished it, I was pretty young and didn't understand most of the stuff that the game discussed.

After finishing the game again, I can safely say the game is more of a mind fuck than Inception.

The prime example of mindfuck;


I still have yet to play 4 (also bought that)... but I assume more mindfuck occurs.



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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
December 04 2011 17:57 GMT
#2
Just you wait until 4, it was an absolute pleasure to play through, and theres plenty of mindfuckin!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 04 2011 18:07 GMT
#3
Man I forgot how crazy MGS2 was.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 18:14:40
December 04 2011 18:10 GMT
#4
I watched Chip Cheezum and General Ironicus LP all the games and I can safely say it's just extremely silly and dumb lol

edit: I liked Inception but I couldn't call it a mind fuck... Probably because it took a lot of ideas from Solaris (I don't know about the movie, but the book it did) but didn't develop on them as much and so just kind of seemed like a cheap version of solaris with MATRIX DREAMS. lol. and a dumb 'or was iiiit???' ending... hahahaha
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
December 04 2011 18:10 GMT
#5
4 took me about 9 playthroughs to figure out what was going on ;s.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
December 04 2011 18:11 GMT
#6
I have never played any MGS. I have watched though.

+ Show Spoiler +
AND I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN INCEPTION YET
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 18:16:20
December 04 2011 18:11 GMT
#7
Omg, MGS2, my least favourite out of the series. I didn't know wtf was going on at the time I played that game, it was messed up and at the end I didn't even care anymore, I just wanted to finish the game. I don't think I'll be replaying that (or maybe I will...I've been thinking about getting the HD collection, it'll be nice to play MGS3 on the PS3 instead of busting out the PS2).
I didn't really feel mindfucked in MGS4, a lot of stuff happens but I didn't think it was mindfucking or inception like.

Also
+ Show Spoiler [MGS4 spoilers] +
Getting through that motorbike scene to get the Big Boss achievement was a fucking nightmare, my god it took so many tries T_T I was so happy when I saw the words Big Boss
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
December 04 2011 18:23 GMT
#8
I want to play MSG4 so badly. Need a ps3 : (
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
December 04 2011 18:24 GMT
#9
Oh yeah.

Fuck... yeah.


I remember playing through the end of MGS2. It was night time. I had spent hours on it already. Then everything turns insane and my frigging game tells my I've been playing for too long, and I should turn the console off.
While displaying false game over screens. While the in-game instructor tells me about his last restaurant meal.

Just. Pure. WTF. It's like the essence of WTF. It's like being in a dark room and a giant chair asks you to be his date on Thankstaking day.

And then, philosophy. My first introduction into contemporary philosophy of the new virtual era. The first serious criticism of mass-media I saw done by a mass-medium itself.



To anyone who has not played through the end of MGS 2. Do it. You might not like the game. But that part is history.
I'm actually reading Philosophy of video games, and the epilogue... follows this ending as an example. Pretty sick, I tell you.

I completely worship that video gaming moment. I could sacrifice someone to it.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 18:30:02
December 04 2011 18:25 GMT
#10
Have to say that MGS2 is my least favorite as well.MGS3 was the best considering everything.The story,gameplay,graphics,and I was never really a fan of Raiden.
The best part of MGS2 imo was the tanker episode.Loved doing speed runs on that one,makes me wan't to bust out the ps2 right now.

Something like this+ Show Spoiler +

I think my best time was like 10:10 or something,couldn't do Olga fast enough like that dude.
Aiming in MGS2 is a bit harder than in MGS3.
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SageFantasma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
December 04 2011 18:40 GMT
#11
Metal Gear Solid 2 was pretty scrappy in comparison to the others, except for the ending. Personally, I enjoyed MGS2's ending more than all of the other games, it was so intense. I still remember when I played through the first time, the chills I got during Raiden's Codec with Colonel at the end... So awesome. I can't wait to play through MGS2 and 3 again, with luck I'll be getting the HD collection soon ^___^

Hopefully you enjoy MGS4, its a badass game. It doesn't really have the same gameplay, but it is still very, very good. Great replay value too, I have almost 18 playthroughs, and I'm still not tired of it! :D
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
December 04 2011 18:52 GMT
#12
mgs4 decides to wait till the last 10 minutes before throwing all the mindfuck at you. At least MGS2 had the decency to do it with less volume. That being said, the ending for MGS2 is thoroughly enjoyable. Although I have to say, mgs3 is the best and most complete package of all. Boss fights were awesome, story was gripping and well executed, music was epic, gameplay is just as solid as it ever was, and character cast is memorable as hell.
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WIllBIll
Profile Joined June 2011
590 Posts
December 04 2011 19:07 GMT
#13
God I love Metal Gear. Hideo Kojima can fuck with my mind as long as he wants.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 04 2011 19:08 GMT
#14
Man, I actually bought the original trilogy for PS1/PS2 from a used game store near-by to learn that the HD remake was coming out 4 months later.

I've only played through the first one so far, and if I thought I got mind-fucked when Master or whoever turned out to be Liquid Snake (LOL), I guess I'm not into anything, yet.

Also funny was when you're fighting Psycho Mantis and my big flat-screen TV freaks out and displays HIMEO with a black screen. That made me laugh a little, haha. Would've been better if I was in my room, because then I might've been tricked. :p
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FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
December 04 2011 19:13 GMT
#15
Lol...I love the part where you finish running around naked and you go into this big room with a bit door at the end.

There's a clip of a Japanese girl getting in her undies and shit on your radar screen.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 04 2011 19:22 GMT
#16
Yeah MGS2 is an absolute masterpiece. Play through 4 and you'll love it. Well made.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
December 04 2011 19:28 GMT
#17
I was around 12 when I played this first time and most things went way over my head back then, would probably be the same if I replayed it now...

My first MGS was the first game and I bought MGS2 without reading anything about it but I had played the tanker demo before that so I was awfully confused when Snake had blonde hair coming from the breathing mask when starting the plant...
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
December 04 2011 19:30 GMT
#18
Regarding the first video:
I highly, highly recommend "Brave New World" by Huxley if this topic interests you.
Oh yea, and by that, 1984 is obligatory as well.

I never played MSG(well, the first part on PS actually), but I was always amazed by it's political influenced story-design. It's really a mastgerpiece.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 19:38:40
December 04 2011 19:37 GMT
#19
MGS4 was basically mind fuck the movie

You'll see what I mean by "the movie".
But I am a huge fan of the series, been playing it since I was like 6 years old back in '98 or whenever the first one came out.

ps. that first video will make 100% more sense when you play through MGS4
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 04 2011 19:57 GMT
#20
On December 05 2011 04:37 Chargelot wrote:
MGS4 was basically mind fuck the movie

You'll see what I mean by "the movie".

Oh, don't act mysterious. Everyone knows these games are 90% cutscene.
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