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Ruffian
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
November 10 2011 04:17 GMT
#21
I totally understand. I would get into fights over melee and brawl with the group of people I played with in my neighborhood lol. Especially when it came to team battles.

I main pikachu in melee, Lucario in brawl :3 I used to be good with Roy too.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 04:19:37
November 10 2011 04:19 GMT
#22
On November 10 2011 12:44 Chef wrote:
Sore loser is the correct term. Don't try to twist it into something positive or inspirational like 'losing is not an option.' All it means is that you can't appreciate and respect your opponents and that you think too highly of yourself.

It's not always the case, but I usually find people who are okay with losing have the most capacity to learn from their mistakes and become truly skillful. People who are not okay with losing tend to learn much slower.

I have had games which were very intense and emotionally charged, but that is exactly it. It's just exciting. I don't get mad at my opponent or at myself because of the game. The only time I feel frustration from playing a game is if I was already frustrated before playing, went to play the game to try and relax/take my mind off it, and instead just played horrible and felt shitty the whole game thus wasting time. But that really has nothing to do with the game.

It's interesting. I was an extremely poor loser when I was a little kid (I would say much worse than most) but I got over it and I usually take losses in stride now. I'm not exactly sure what happened within my maturation.
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 04:21:43
November 10 2011 04:19 GMT
#23
007 for the megadrive

jaws boss

On November 10 2011 13:19 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 12:44 Chef wrote:
Sore loser is the correct term. Don't try to twist it into something positive or inspirational like 'losing is not an option.' All it means is that you can't appreciate and respect your opponents and that you think too highly of yourself.

It's not always the case, but I usually find people who are okay with losing have the most capacity to learn from their mistakes and become truly skillful. People who are not okay with losing tend to learn much slower.

I have had games which were very intense and emotionally charged, but that is exactly it. It's just exciting. I don't get mad at my opponent or at myself because of the game. The only time I feel frustration from playing a game is if I was already frustrated before playing, went to play the game to try and relax/take my mind off it, and instead just played horrible and felt shitty the whole game thus wasting time. But that really has nothing to do with the game.

It's interesting. I was an extremely poor loser when I was a little kid (I would say much worse than most) but I got over it and I usually take losses in stride now. I'm not exactly sure what happened within my maturation.


without knowing you at all id guess you just care about games less. you are probably more emotionally invested in something else now. either your job or girls or a hobby. when u are a kid games are your life, when you grow up something else tops the podium of things you give a fuck about. what im saying is that dying at the last boss age 7 is like getting cock blocked age 20 : D
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
November 10 2011 04:22 GMT
#24
There's a difference between being a sore loser and being competitive. In sports, you can drop the ball or miss someone, but it's the things that nobody will blame you for which makes you lose. Not putting in that extra effort in a run, or not covering your guy tightly because you're tired, having your feet in the wrong position.

If you're competitive at games, you should be beating yourself up over missing larva injects or not last hitting a creep perfectly, or losing a track of an enemy hero while you're csing.
Riku
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1064 Posts
November 10 2011 04:31 GMT
#25
On November 10 2011 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
Melee or Brawl, if Melee, what character, and were you good?

If Brawl, ignore my question lol


In Melee I played Marth and Mewtwo. I was pretty decent back when I played a lot.

In Brawl, I can drunkenly mash at a controller while playing Lucario and never die. Brawl is fun, but they made it way too easy to recover.

On November 10 2011 12:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Don't you ever use /ignore? I raged for the first time in several years last night, when I played mid Veigar, and died a couple times to a roaming Twitch that my allies decided to feed 11 kills to, so that he could 3-shot me. They then proceeded to spend 5 minutes calling me terrible and bad before I just /ignore all'ed.

Soooooooo useful. :p


I do use /ignore but only in dire circumstances. Generally, I like to report the worst ones, so the more specific complaints I have, the better.

On November 10 2011 12:44 Chef wrote:
Sore loser is the correct term. Don't try to twist it into something positive or inspirational like 'losing is not an option.' All it means is that you can't appreciate and respect your opponents and that you think too highly of yourself.

It's not always the case, but I usually find people who are okay with losing have the most capacity to learn from their mistakes and become truly skillful. People who are not okay with losing tend to learn much slower.

I have had games which were very intense and emotionally charged, but that is exactly it. It's just exciting. I don't get mad at my opponent or at myself because of the game. The only time I feel frustration from playing a game is if I was already frustrated before playing, went to play the game to try and relax/take my mind off it, and instead just played horrible and felt shitty the whole game thus wasting time. But that really has nothing to do with the game.


1) As always, I exaggerated.

2) My father literally says things like "losing is not an option" and "there is doing and not doing, there is no 'try.'" I wasn't trying to be inspirational.

3) I really only get noticeably frustrated when I make a fool of myself in front of my boyfriend. Not sure why, because I can just royally suck in front of my friends and shrug it off.

On November 10 2011 13:22 igotmyown wrote:
There's a difference between being a sore loser and being competitive. In sports, you can drop the ball or miss someone, but it's the things that nobody will blame you for which makes you lose. Not putting in that extra effort in a run, or not covering your guy tightly because you're tired, having your feet in the wrong position.

If you're competitive at games, you should be beating yourself up over missing larva injects or not last hitting a creep perfectly, or losing a track of an enemy hero while you're csing.


I curse loudly over missed CS all of the time. Haha, never really get upset over it, just swear a lot.

Creative Director, CEO at Stumbling Cat, Writer for Broken Joysticks - Twitter: @RikuKat
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
November 10 2011 04:56 GMT
#26
I stopped playing SC2 because I raged too much. I went through a period where I was high diamond as a result of of playing like 9 hours a day (before there was masters league). I felt burned out, so I gave playing for fun a try and I still raged at how trash I was. It got to the point where I was punching things. SC2 is the only game to ever require me to sit up straight and devote all my mental energy. When I played competitive TF2, CS, Quake, etc. I was able to chill, lean back, and do relatively well. It probably has to do with playing FPS for almost my entire life, so my FPS mechanics are very solid and natural.

I only rage at my own mistakes though and I knew I wasn't playing at high enough level for race balance to matter so I never raged about balance. I have friends who rage at LoL/Dota if they have bad teammates, but if I'm in a situation like that, I take comfort in thinking that I'm not as bad as my teammates are. I feel horrible when I play like trash in front of my teammates though.

My little brother rages hard at Gears of War 3 though, I should set up a hidden camera. :D
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
November 10 2011 05:03 GMT
#27
I rage when a Riku blog has no photos.

I don't rage much at SC2, never raged much in Dota (mostly just utterly sad and frustrated, since there comes a point after your 25th death that you just realise there's no point to, well, anything).

I rage like f**k on a golf course, though. If I was rich I'd probably be smashing half of my clubs every round in anger.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
November 10 2011 05:17 GMT
#28
On November 10 2011 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
Melee or Brawl, if Melee, what character, and were you good?

If Brawl, ignore my question lol

Why not 64?
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 10 2011 05:26 GMT
#29
On November 10 2011 13:19 turdburgler wrote:
007 for the megadrive

jaws boss

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 13:19 Jibba wrote:
On November 10 2011 12:44 Chef wrote:
Sore loser is the correct term. Don't try to twist it into something positive or inspirational like 'losing is not an option.' All it means is that you can't appreciate and respect your opponents and that you think too highly of yourself.

It's not always the case, but I usually find people who are okay with losing have the most capacity to learn from their mistakes and become truly skillful. People who are not okay with losing tend to learn much slower.

I have had games which were very intense and emotionally charged, but that is exactly it. It's just exciting. I don't get mad at my opponent or at myself because of the game. The only time I feel frustration from playing a game is if I was already frustrated before playing, went to play the game to try and relax/take my mind off it, and instead just played horrible and felt shitty the whole game thus wasting time. But that really has nothing to do with the game.

It's interesting. I was an extremely poor loser when I was a little kid (I would say much worse than most) but I got over it and I usually take losses in stride now. I'm not exactly sure what happened within my maturation.


without knowing you at all id guess you just care about games less. you are probably more emotionally invested in something else now. either your job or girls or a hobby. when u are a kid games are your life, when you grow up something else tops the podium of things you give a fuck about. what im saying is that dying at the last boss age 7 is like getting cock blocked age 20 : D

Partially true, but I also played competitive CS, which occupied my life in high school, and hardcore raiding. Perhaps losing a lot changed it. Getting humbled on iCCup is a pretty valuable experience.
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actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
November 10 2011 05:28 GMT
#30
On November 10 2011 14:17 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
Melee or Brawl, if Melee, what character, and were you good?

If Brawl, ignore my question lol

Why not 64?


If there is one thing i learned throughout the years its this - No one plays the 64 version. Melee is fine and all, and brawl was..... yea.. But nothings tops the 64 for me ^__^ I wish i could meet someone who could beat me in 64 smash.... D: Its like my dream friend. hah. Link + ness 64 ftw!

Half the people i meet who play smash have not even played the 64 version before, or have like once. Makes me a saaaaad panda.
It rained today inside my head...
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
November 10 2011 05:33 GMT
#31
On November 10 2011 13:04 Whole wrote:
Normally, if I start to rage I'm kind of half-joking or if I do something silly (slam desk, throw something, ect.) I laugh at it immediately after. I don't really understand the point of legitimately getting mad while playing a video game on a non-pro level. You're supposed to be having fun. Being competitive isn't really an excuse because if someone was truly competitive, then they'd know that raging doesn't help at all.


Why is playing a game on a non pro level a reason not to get upset? Just because something isn't being played on a pro level, doesn't mean it can't be a serious competition. If anything, playing at a pro level should mean you try to control your emotion, because you are playing for money. Also, winning is a lot of fun.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 10 2011 05:33 GMT
#32
On November 10 2011 12:44 Chef wrote:
It's not always the case, but I usually find people who are okay with losing have the most capacity to learn from their mistakes and become truly skillful. People who are not okay with losing tend to learn much slower..


My experience in athletics is the exact opposite. People that take losses devastatingly hard seem to work the hardest to prevent them from happening again. That is of course unless they just quit all together, but then they won't be continuing to learn at any rate so I assume that 2nd scenario should be tossed out.

Side note: taking a loss hard does not have to equal tears and depression.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
November 10 2011 05:41 GMT
#33
On November 10 2011 14:33 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 13:04 Whole wrote:
Normally, if I start to rage I'm kind of half-joking or if I do something silly (slam desk, throw something, ect.) I laugh at it immediately after. I don't really understand the point of legitimately getting mad while playing a video game on a non-pro level. You're supposed to be having fun. Being competitive isn't really an excuse because if someone was truly competitive, then they'd know that raging doesn't help at all.


Why is playing a game on a non pro level a reason not to get upset? Just because something isn't being played on a pro level, doesn't mean it can't be a serious competition. If anything, playing at a pro level should mean you try to control your emotion, because you are playing for money. Also, winning is a lot of fun.


because when you're playing on a non-pro level, it doesn't mean anything. winning is fun and being competitive (while not being pro) is fun, but when people take the losses so seriously and deeply, it sucks out the fun of competition and if you're playing a team game, it usually annoys other people as well. they're making a big deal out of something that means nothing.

Just to clarify, I'm talking about legitimate and lengthy rage fits, not short outburst.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
November 10 2011 05:41 GMT
#34
On November 10 2011 14:28 actionbastrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 14:17 iGrok wrote:
On November 10 2011 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
Melee or Brawl, if Melee, what character, and were you good?

If Brawl, ignore my question lol

Why not 64?


If there is one thing i learned throughout the years its this - No one plays the 64 version. Melee is fine and all, and brawl was..... yea.. But nothings tops the 64 for me ^__^ I wish i could meet someone who could beat me in 64 smash.... D: Its like my dream friend. hah. Link + ness 64 ftw!

Half the people i meet who play smash have not even played the 64 version before, or have like once. Makes me a saaaaad panda.

In my dorm we played 64 a lot, but switched to melee when someone bought a game cube. Ahh those were the days, smash every day.

Senior year I played melee vs my roommate 1v1 every day loser walks out to buy lunch/dinner, it was fucking intense.
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actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 05:53:17
November 10 2011 05:52 GMT
#35
On November 10 2011 14:41 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 14:28 actionbastrd wrote:
On November 10 2011 14:17 iGrok wrote:
On November 10 2011 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
Melee or Brawl, if Melee, what character, and were you good?

If Brawl, ignore my question lol

Why not 64?


If there is one thing i learned throughout the years its this - No one plays the 64 version. Melee is fine and all, and brawl was..... yea.. But nothings tops the 64 for me ^__^ I wish i could meet someone who could beat me in 64 smash.... D: Its like my dream friend. hah. Link + ness 64 ftw!

Half the people i meet who play smash have not even played the 64 version before, or have like once. Makes me a saaaaad panda.

In my dorm we played 64 a lot, but switched to melee when someone bought a game cube. Ahh those were the days, smash every day.

Senior year I played melee vs my roommate 1v1 every day loser walks out to buy lunch/dinner, it was fucking intense.


Hah nice, yeah we used to do drinking games with smash 64, do bets all the time. Sometimes someone would walk out with $100 in their pocket. I guess my problem is ive never owned a gamecube! I did sport the dreamcast tho. There was only 3-5 of us that played it that much tho back in the day. The drinking games got really ridic..... hah.

I did love the in-game tourny options with melee tho, that was a super nice addition.
It rained today inside my head...
Riku
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 05:59:45
November 10 2011 05:57 GMT
#36
On November 10 2011 14:52 actionbastrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 14:41 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 10 2011 14:28 actionbastrd wrote:
On November 10 2011 14:17 iGrok wrote:
On November 10 2011 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
Melee or Brawl, if Melee, what character, and were you good?

If Brawl, ignore my question lol

Why not 64?


If there is one thing i learned throughout the years its this - No one plays the 64 version. Melee is fine and all, and brawl was..... yea.. But nothings tops the 64 for me ^__^ I wish i could meet someone who could beat me in 64 smash.... D: Its like my dream friend. hah. Link + ness 64 ftw!

Half the people i meet who play smash have not even played the 64 version before, or have like once. Makes me a saaaaad panda.

In my dorm we played 64 a lot, but switched to melee when someone bought a game cube. Ahh those were the days, smash every day.

Senior year I played melee vs my roommate 1v1 every day loser walks out to buy lunch/dinner, it was fucking intense.


Hah nice, yeah we used to do drinking games with smash 64, do bets all the time. Sometimes someone would walk out with $100 in their pocket. I guess my problem is ive never owned a gamecube! I did sport the dreamcast tho. There was only 3-5 of us that played it that much tho back in the day. The drinking games got really ridic..... hah.

I did love the in-game tourny options with melee tho, that was a super nice addition.


We rarely bet when we played, but we did lots of Smash Bros drinking games. Only for Melee and Brawl, though, 64 was srs bsnss.

I actually own my own gamecube controller, though not a gamecube. The controllers most people owned tended to be messed up, so I would always bring my own over with me to play with.
Creative Director, CEO at Stumbling Cat, Writer for Broken Joysticks - Twitter: @RikuKat
cvlsfts
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada17 Posts
November 10 2011 06:10 GMT
#37
Silly as it is, all my mopey SC moments come the feeling of disappointing others. I had a really good friend who was coaching me for weeks in preparation of a small local tournament, and I ended up performing terribly during my first game. I guess his comments were pretty harsh, I literally curled up in a corner on my bed after the game and cried. [Haha I really hope he doesn't see this post] The idea our friendship based on my skill at a game was unbearable. Good thing that's complete BS, considering we're dating and I still suck massively at SC. But yeah, I do rage at myself for being bad, but what really breaks me down is when I can't fulfill others' expectations. Can't imagine how pros deal with it. @____@
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
November 10 2011 06:21 GMT
#38
On November 10 2011 14:28 actionbastrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 14:17 iGrok wrote:
On November 10 2011 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
Melee or Brawl, if Melee, what character, and were you good?

If Brawl, ignore my question lol

Why not 64?


If there is one thing i learned throughout the years its this - No one plays the 64 version. Melee is fine and all, and brawl was..... yea.. But nothings tops the 64 for me ^__^ I wish i could meet someone who could beat me in 64 smash.... D: Its like my dream friend. hah. Link + ness 64 ftw!

Half the people i meet who play smash have not even played the 64 version before, or have like once. Makes me a saaaaad panda.

I'm happy to take you on, if we ever meet. You play T2 champs - I play DK, supposed to be the 2nd worst. But his edge-guarding is ridiculous
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MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
November 10 2011 06:59 GMT
#39
On November 10 2011 14:41 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 14:33 MrDudeMan wrote:
On November 10 2011 13:04 Whole wrote:
Normally, if I start to rage I'm kind of half-joking or if I do something silly (slam desk, throw something, ect.) I laugh at it immediately after. I don't really understand the point of legitimately getting mad while playing a video game on a non-pro level. You're supposed to be having fun. Being competitive isn't really an excuse because if someone was truly competitive, then they'd know that raging doesn't help at all.


Why is playing a game on a non pro level a reason not to get upset? Just because something isn't being played on a pro level, doesn't mean it can't be a serious competition. If anything, playing at a pro level should mean you try to control your emotion, because you are playing for money. Also, winning is a lot of fun.


because when you're playing on a non-pro level, it doesn't mean anything. winning is fun and being competitive (while not being pro) is fun, but when people take the losses so seriously and deeply, it sucks out the fun of competition and if you're playing a team game, it usually annoys other people as well. they're making a big deal out of something that means nothing.

Just to clarify, I'm talking about legitimate and lengthy rage fits, not short outburst.


I guess we just have different definitions of what being upset means. I think of it as playing video games is something I invest my time into, while winning may be just as much a waste of time as losing, I definitely have a lot more fun when I'm winning. Its not a legitimate reason to ever get angry to the point where you make other people feel like shit because of it, but I don't see much wrong in being upset at yourself (especially in SC2 where I know what mistakes I made).
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12399 Posts
November 10 2011 07:17 GMT
#40
if LoL makes you rage, then dota or hon will make you hate yourself...
the level of flame is huge. If you are being ganked heavily, you will be behind throughout the whole game and your team will flame you non-stop
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