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novabossa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States350 Posts
November 05 2011 17:15 GMT
#201
Great guide! I've played vanilla dota for a long time and I've been anticipating checking out the second installment. Cheers and good luck to everyone hoping for a key!
Rachel: First game. oGsMC: Yea. Rachel: Dark Templar. oGsMC: Yea. Rachel: Countered. oGsMC: Yea. Rachel: Were you worried? oGsMC: What?
O3
Profile Joined November 2007
Singapore99 Posts
November 05 2011 17:16 GMT
#202
3 points I would like to add:

1. Juking
2. Vision
3. Basic mechanics

1. Juking
There are several areas where due to the fog, you will be able to escape from enemy's vision in close range when you are in the midst of trees. I don't have a Dota2 account, but based on DotA experience, there are many spots in sentinel jungle where you can experiment and escape their sight.

2. Vision
Vision is important. While unlike SC2 where blink to fogged areas are forbidden, blinking to fogged areas are totally legal in Dota. However, a blind blink might have unintended results especially when trying to engage.
Hence, there is a rise of tree-destruction tactics in order to obtain greater vision. Notably, beastmaster's axes are used to obtain vision of the level ground in nearly all patches of trees next to all 3 lanes. This greatly helps in preventing ganks as well as to obtain vision on jukers or on enemies intending to use the trees to aid in their escape.

3. Basic mechanics - Minimap
As a beginner, you might be focusing on the main vision too much. However, it is very very important to check the minimap every 5 to 10s so that you can get information on the situation. Several things to note: Number of dots on the screen, proximity of the dots.

When you glance, do a quick count of number of enemies on screen. Enabling different colors will allow you to find out which enemies are actually missing. If you check every 5 to 10s, you will be able to tell the position of the enemy you last saw and second-guess the direction of movement. The downside is, unless they TP, you would be guessing their movement based on last seen position. This would take abit more experience, but one will get better over time.

Proximity of dots will show you how close your team mates will be to engaging. If you see that they are getting dangerously close, quickly click on the map and have a glance before deciding if you'd be using your tp scroll to support. In addition, do a quick count of the dots first. The enemy team might not have fully revealed their heroes and are waiting to take extra kills from ambitious support heroes.

Do remember this point. It's like driving and checking your mirrors every once in a while to get a hang of the situation. Hope that helps beginners (and nets me a dota2 key).

glhf.
Khelz
Profile Joined August 2010
106 Posts
November 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#203
Very well-written and nicely formatted, a real pleasure to read.

I'm looking forward to the dynamic Day/Night mechanic that DoTA has over it's clones/brethren through the use of vision ranges and Night Stalker's unique game play. Gonna be fun.
Have a great day!
d0n
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany143 Posts
November 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#204
Would totally love to test out the BETA. Been playing DOTA at high level for many years and really want to get back into competitive play at this genre.
^^
bigmooz
Profile Joined November 2011
1 Post
November 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#205
Great guide. I'm a new player and this really helps.
blodiainc
Profile Joined November 2011
1 Post
November 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#206
You should mention the Glyph of Fortification ability for towers/buildings.

Otherwise, great guide!
piechjd
Profile Joined August 2010
United States7 Posts
November 05 2011 17:17 GMT
#207
Great post! I haven't played Dota in years and am planning on getting Dota2, so was a great refresher!
Bowdy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States232 Posts
November 05 2011 17:19 GMT
#208
nice guide, and I sure could use a key :D
bowdy.smiteam.net
Oreuck
Profile Joined May 2011
10 Posts
November 05 2011 17:22 GMT
#209
Very informative and interesting post. Well written and made a noob like me excited to hop in and play without looking really stupid. Thanks!
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 17:23:27
November 05 2011 17:22 GMT
#210
Good Blog, in the future you could cover mechanics like orbing, animation delay, fog usage,etc.

Also
On November 06 2011 00:09 Bumblebee wrote:
Interested in getting access to the DotA2 beta?

I've been handing out keys for a while now and the amount of keys, I have left is closing in. Actually the bottle was empty! But then IceFrog wrote to me and handed me a few more keys, so I'll be giving out some in this blog too. Just for you guys. The contest will be the same as last time. Reply to this blog and you'll have a shot of winning; bad posts will be removed from the contest, but I will draw randomly at some point by just taking a random post number (like #183). Good luck to all of you.

Follow me on Twitter @robinnymann



Indeed it was =)
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
November 05 2011 17:23 GMT
#211
dota key plz :D
Whatever happens, happens
Mr.Loki
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany136 Posts
November 05 2011 17:24 GMT
#212
If the keys are not yet given away, I'd be happy, too...

For those new to dota, check out http://www.dotacommentaries.com/ .
I especially like Luminous, who also has a DotA-Channel on Youtube (LuminouStudios). He and Nebu1a do quite a bit of analysis and stuff, you really can learn from, too...
Drolla
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom389 Posts
November 05 2011 17:27 GMT
#213
Nice guide, really shows the difference between DOTA2 and the other "MOBA" type games.
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
November 05 2011 17:27 GMT
#214
Very good blog, while it covers the basics pretty much there was a few stuff I learned like the different runes duration (invis/DD/haste not having same duration, btw what about regen/illu?) and some of the stats about Roshan. And the videos about pulling will be a good help, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain it but without a vid it's not working well TT
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Talav
Profile Joined November 2011
2 Posts
November 05 2011 17:28 GMT
#215
A great blog, made remember lots of things that i had forgotten!

Also hoping for that betakey to use the knowledge ingame:D
Frosties
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1 Post
November 05 2011 17:28 GMT
#216
Very nice guide for players who may have played other games like LoL instead of dota.
Wormster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom53 Posts
November 05 2011 17:28 GMT
#217
Nice blog! Very useful for a massive DotA noob like myself looking to get into the game.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
November 05 2011 17:28 GMT
#218
Another great blog, love your series. Followed you on twitter too. ^^
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8232 Posts
November 05 2011 17:30 GMT
#219
Man. Stop writing these guides. There so good they just make me crave the game even more!
cody1024d
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
107 Posts
November 05 2011 17:30 GMT
#220
Sometimes its nice to see articles on teh fundamentals everyone takes for granted. Its differences in the players' understanding of the fundamentals which seperates a good from a great player (among many, many other things, obviously).
No point in half-assing it.
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