I know I do t.t I dislike knowing EVERYTHING that is happening in the game before the commentators say it because of the production tab. No other sport you watch will you know the play before the commentator lol (very rarely anyway)

Bd.Snake

Australia163 Posts

October 29 2011 13:40 GMT

#22

That video of Flash is actually insane.

Kanil

United States1713 Posts

October 29 2011 13:40 GMT

#23

I think what's missing most sound-wise from SC2 is the fanatical fans and their fighting chant at the start of the game. That is so awesome to listen to.

(Also siege tanks.)

hazelynut

United States2197 Posts

October 29 2011 13:42 GMT

#24

Strangely enough, NASL finals were 10x more interesting when the projectors were broken. The production tab + food count couldn't be seen so that when 25 broodlords popped out of nowhere, the days of BW seemed to return.. T_T

I never really noticed, but the sound is definitely an issue for me in SC2. I felt like I could understand the role of a unit by its sound. Now, peashooter marines do more DPS than their sound effect suggests and it's just confusing.

MrCon

France29748 Posts

October 29 2011 14:24 GMT

#25

On October 29 2011 22:42 hazelynut wrote:
Strangely enough, NASL finals were 10x more interesting when the projectors were broken. The production tab + food count couldn't be seen so that when 25 broodlords popped out of nowhere, the days of BW seemed to return.. T_T

I never really noticed, but the sound is definitely an issue for me in SC2. I felt like I could understand the role of a unit by its sound. Now, peashooter marines do more DPS than their sound effect suggests and it's just confusing.

I agree so much on the sound part.
I miss archons attacks sounds, cracklings attacks sounds, hydras attack sounds so much...

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

October 29 2011 14:28 GMT

#26

man I knew you'd pick a flash game.

supernovamaniac

United States3048 Posts

October 29 2011 14:52 GMT

#27

Few months ago, when SC2 came out, my brother just hopped into StarCraft scene.

"Hey, why don't you play SC2 more? It's a newer game and it has better graphics and stuff"

"Well <insertbrother'snamehere>, its not as exciting as BW. Maybe it's just me"

"I guess you're right though; it's your personal preference, right? Still seems silly though that older games are more exciting than new ones..."

Fast forward few weeks, I bring my brother to MBCGame, this ensues.

(If it doesn't skip, 41 minutes 40 seconds)

And then, he started following the BW scene. Not as much as me, but just a little.

Geovu

Estonia1344 Posts

October 29 2011 14:56 GMT

#28

BW:
*PSCHOOO**TKAKTKAKKTKA**SCREEE**BOOOOOOOOOOM*

SC2:
*bkajd Ptew *cough*cough* ugh let me lie down for a minute sorry I have laryngitis*

Same thing happened IMO from Halo 1 to 2 and 3, especially with the assault rifle. Halo 1 weapons had soooooo much more impact to the sound (And not just rumble lol) it is actually unbelievable. I was actually a bit pissed off when I played Halo 3 because things looked shiny but none of the weapons felt powerful, even the rocket launcher. Then they gimped assault rifle from 60 --> 32 rounds but thats something different lol

TaShadan

Germany1981 Posts

October 29 2011 15:11 GMT

#29

sc2 is just boring to watch
thats why iam really sad about the fact that pro teams play sc2 now T_T

sh4w

United States713 Posts

October 29 2011 15:13 GMT

#30

On October 29 2011 22:42 hazelynut wrote:
I never really noticed, but the sound is definitely an issue for me in SC2. I felt like I could understand the role of a unit by its sound. Now, peashooter marines do more DPS than their sound effect suggests and it's just confusing.

So much this. It's so weird if I play BW, then play a game of SC2. It's like my units aren't doing any damage. Lings, Hydras, Mutas, all of them when I hear them in BW I feel that damage, in SC2 it's like what? The blog is spot on. 5\5

MrHoon

10183 Posts

October 29 2011 15:13 GMT

#31

Ever since SC2 first came out I distinctly remember alot of BW fans had issues with the voices of the units in general.

Everything in BW just sounded incredibly unique. Each character had their own voice, their own characteristics and even the death sounds all sounded different. Even if you were blind, in BW you KNEW which units died and how many just because of their unique death sound.

You could also feel this from War2 and War3. Remember how the Footman in War2 Died?
"URHURHURHURRAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
and in War3
"urf *clank*"

2WeaK

Canada550 Posts

October 29 2011 15:19 GMT

#32

My personal feeling is that, the Observers are way better in BW than they are in SC2, they catch things observers in SC2 often miss and as if that wasn't enough, in BW we actually see what the commentators see, the commentators aren't always in their own world looking at stuff they feel like looking at while we're stuck watching something else. Commentators should not be observing IMO.

RogerX

New Zealand3180 Posts

October 29 2011 15:22 GMT

#33

You know what I really miss?

The music. SC 1 Music was just so much more epic and (better imo) than SC2

MrHoon

10183 Posts

October 29 2011 15:25 GMT

#34

On October 30 2011 00:19 2WeaK wrote:
My personal feeling is that, the Observers are way better in BW than they are in SC2, they catch things observers in SC2 often miss and as if that wasn't enough, in BW we actually see what the commentators see, the commentators aren't always in their own world looking at stuff they feel like looking at while we're stuck watching something else. Commentators should not be observing IMO.

this is how it worked in Korea

They had 2 different observers, 1 for the mainscreen and 1 for backup
The commentators would commentate from the mainscreen perspective while the 2nd screen remained as a backup incase shit hit the fan

This allowed the Korean commentators to stay in contact with the Audience, which really was one of the key things of BW success

imo the foreign casting scene still needs some changes

But there are tons of people who would disagree with me (Like 3 Caster Format is much superior than the 2 man format)

then again I understand Korean so most of you won't really know what Im talking about

MrCon

France29748 Posts

October 29 2011 15:29 GMT

#35

On October 30 2011 00:11 TaShadan wrote:
sc2 is just boring to watch
thats why iam really sad about the fact that pro teams play sc2 now T_T

Well that's not true anymore imo.
I would have agreed some months ago, some sc2 games were good to watch but the normal games were not. During this time I was really worried about sc2's "future".
Now some matchups are really exciting and nearly as good to watch as a bw matchup (namely TvZ and TvT)
Everything that include protoss is still boring tho (that's less true for like one month, but that's still true) so I hope this will change.
In fact for the first time I was thinking that sc2 was heading in the good direction, and now I fear the expansion will ruin it all haha.

a176

Canada6688 Posts

October 29 2011 15:40 GMT

#36

I replaced the SC2 sounds with BW sounds way back in beta.

You have no idea how fucking awesome that was

EchOne

United States2906 Posts

October 29 2011 15:44 GMT

#37

On October 29 2011 21:05 Skilledblob wrote:
SC1 units would blob up as well if you could get more units into one group. But you cant and that's the only reason why SC1 looks more spread out even though that is just a side effect.

Incorrect. In SC1 you can actually surpass the unit selection cap with a hack, and even when manipulating armies on a 1 control group basis, they never conglomerate to the extent that SC2 armies do.

chongu

Malaysia2605 Posts

October 29 2011 16:05 GMT

#38

Personally, I have mixed feelings about SC2 as a spectator sport.

How much longer will the skill ceiling be pushed in SC2 before the metagames and builds just go round and round? Has the golden era of high rate discoveries and innovations (e.g, unit micro, metagaming shifts, builds and special tactics) already ended? Will the esports scene stagnant in the coming years? Will the masses rashly switch over to HotS? So many questions, so little answers one year on.

TL;DR - skill ceiling, the pool of possible strategies within the game in its entirety being too small and HotS

Zergneedsfood

United States10671 Posts

October 29 2011 16:20 GMT

#39

I don't like the sounds. I don't like the animation either. Everything feels really flimsy in the game in terms of being fun to watch.

It's fun to play, but it just doesn't seem fun to watch. All of the sounds probably have a LOT to do with it. All of my units and abilities just sound inferior.

konadora

Singapore66364 Posts

October 29 2011 16:27 GMT

#40

On October 29 2011 23:52 supernovamaniac wrote:
Few months ago, when SC2 came out, my brother just hopped into StarCraft scene.

"Hey, why don't you play SC2 more? It's a newer game and it has better graphics and stuff"

"Well <insertbrother'snamehere>, its not as exciting as BW. Maybe it's just me"

"I guess you're right though; it's your personal preference, right? Still seems silly though that older games are more exciting than new ones..."

Fast forward few weeks, I bring my brother to MBCGame, this ensues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR8xsZxwweI&t=41m40s

(If it doesn't skip, 41 minutes 40 seconds)

And then, he started following the BW scene. Not as much as me, but just a little.

wait was that your brother?