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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
October 10 2011 09:55 GMT
#1
Hello teamliquid.

Even tho I wrote that my second blog is going to be about my life as a gamer and how did I end up here, something else has come up.


Me and my friend, and now a business partner have decided to open up a little business on the side. We both have jobs but this would be something like a hobby. We want to sell T-shirts and stickers.

Now, I thought I could mix it up with my urge to do great things for the sc community.

So, could you answer these questions in your replies please:


1) Would you be interested to buy tees/stickers themed with sc2, (possibly TL), gaming in general?
2) How much would you pay for a batch of 20 stickers with your favorite sc2 quotes/ progamer faces / whatever meaning they all are no bigger than a A4 sheet of paper?
3) How much would you pay for a tshirt with same stuff on it?

I know it depends on quality (we will be trying to provide better quality for a little bit higher price if needed), and that you would need to see it first, but it's just a question, very general. We haven't started yet. I'm leaning more towards tshirts cause I just think they're awesome and I would like to make those, but my friend says we should be taking more interest in stickers, cause tshirts are already widely sold.

Also, if we wanted to use TL logo to make some TL shirts and provide you folks with it, can we do that? I guess not, but maybe if we ask the staff? I don know any of this legal stuff yet. This is a very fresh idea.

Also, how about sc2 logos and whatnot? Do you think/know if we need to have permission to use them?

Also, any other tips and opinions would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.


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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
October 10 2011 10:10 GMT
#2
http://www.teamliquid.net/store/
Tada!
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Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
October 10 2011 10:13 GMT
#3
On October 10 2011 19:10 blubbdavid wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/store/
Tada!


Ok, then I guess TL have their own store. But this wasn't what I was asking.
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Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
October 10 2011 10:35 GMT
#4
I would strongly advice against making spin-off products based on the site that you actually take your consumer input from. Just planting seeds, hoping some day they'll take root.

Also, im not really for stickers. But i could easily pay 15 bucks for a good tee, provided that its actually good. I find most sc2 shirts vulgar and the jokes flat. The only reason to buy them is to give money to that team/group. If you make subtle and aesthetically good tee's you'd make it a viable business opportunity.
Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 11:15:59
October 10 2011 10:52 GMT
#5
I have posted same thing on reddit and based on their answers I want to clear something up:

I am thinking more like thehandsomenerd.com type of shirts (only with better designs). I know I can't just take blizzards/tls/progamers art and use it as I wish. But stuff like quotes, inside jokes, and so on don't belong to anyone so we could use those right? We could get some artists to draw designs. Ofc we won't use logos without permission. Maybe even some people from TL would like to draw something and if it's really cool other people would buy it?

TL and other gaming communities would be just part of the target group.


The question is for example, can I make a flyer/sticker that says "'More GG, More Skill' - White-Ra" on it?
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 10 2011 11:26 GMT
#6
Whos the model on that site btw?
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 11:53:06
October 10 2011 11:52 GMT
#7
If you are referencing a pro, you will be well adviced to get in touch with them and try to work out a deal (or at least get permission). I remembered StarNation got permission to make "more gg more skill" shirt from White-Ra to support the documentary.

The last thing a fledging outfit needs is angry Pros at your back. Hell has no fury like angry fans sent on a mission. On the other hand, with some pro support, you get an easy platform to promote yourself quickly.
Thank God and gunrun.
Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
October 10 2011 12:04 GMT
#8
On October 10 2011 20:52 Primadog wrote:
If you are referencing a pro, you will be well adviced to get in touch with them and try to work out a deal (or at least get permission). I remembered StarNation got permission to make "more gg more skill" shirt from White-Ra to support the documentary.

The last thing a fledging outfit needs is angry Pros at your back. Hell has no fury like angry fans sent on a mission. On the other hand, with some pro support, you get an easy platform to promote yourself quickly.


Yeah I figured that much :/ I really won't do anything without permissions. Thank you very much! When we get this thing going I'm gonna try to contact some gamers maybe to let us use their intellectual property. If it goes well, teamliquid will be the first to know where they can get stuff from!
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
October 10 2011 12:13 GMT
#9
On October 10 2011 20:26 RogerX wrote:
Whos the model on that site btw?

I believe it's Kennigit
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
October 10 2011 12:22 GMT
#10
The Pros are actually rather easy to reach, so don't feel intimidated.
Thank God and gunrun.
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
October 10 2011 12:40 GMT
#11
I would buy an eagles shirt. >o> Also a spawn additional chairs shirt.

For a good quality t-shirt I'd pay about $15. Not so interested in the stickers.
voy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland348 Posts
October 10 2011 12:56 GMT
#12
Remember that u need a Blizzard license to sell SC2 related products.

Can I make and sell my own products (T-shirts, card games, models/figures, etc.) based on a Blizzard universe?

No. Blizzard Entertainment® does not enter into licensing agreements with individuals. To ensure the quality of all Blizzard products, all of our merchandise is created under a licensing agreement and all prospective licensees are thoroughly reviewed by Blizzard Entertainment before a license is granted. If you are a company that is interested in creating licensed merchandise and your company is looking to pursue a corporate licensing relationship with Blizzard Entertainment, please contact merchandiselicensing@blizzard.com.


http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/legal-faq.html

I'm a man with a dream. And I look good in jeans. graphic designer looking for freelance work.
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
October 10 2011 13:02 GMT
#13
That's based on a Blizzard universe though, so if you only made shirts that were community jokes, like the SUP SON shirt, you would be fine. But yeah, don't get in legal trouble.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32159 Posts
October 10 2011 14:06 GMT
#14
On October 10 2011 22:02 RedJustice wrote:
That's based on a Blizzard universe though, so if you only made shirts that were community jokes, like the SUP SON shirt, you would be fine. But yeah, don't get in legal trouble.


yeah but that might be a different can of worms as well. And even if there's no legal means for them to prevent you, you've also gotta consider that the community itself might turn against you as well

good luck, just make sure you do your homework and don't step on toes!
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24801 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 14:49:48
October 10 2011 14:49 GMT
#15
N/m it's already there... gl

I have enough tshirts already haha
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
October 10 2011 15:20 GMT
#16
I wouldn't buy any, well, stickers that are supposed to go on a locker or something. I would buy a bumper sticker in a heartbeat though. Those usually go for like, $3-5, but, given that it's SC2 themed, I'd go up to like $6-7. For a t-shirt, I would pay like $15, but I'm also kind of thrifty.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 10 2011 19:06 GMT
#17
If I was going to buy a shirt to show my support of an organization or product, I'd buy it through an appropriate retailer so I actually WAS supporting it.

Maybe that's just me.
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