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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 08:11:16
October 07 2011 02:50 GMT
#1
Hey TL, I am an avid sc2 player (4-6 hours on a weekday after school, 8-12 hours on a weekend) who is also in 8th grade. I'm overweight, and I think it's due to eating only fast food, and playing starcraft so much. Anyway to the point, I'm 157 LBS and 5'8", with zero muscle. I've tried a few diets, but I really just can't seem to lose that much weight. So TL, how can I lose weight with playing so many hours a day? I'm in love with starcraft, and don't really want to cut back on it. Are there any diets or exercise schedules I can do to lose weight? (inb4 go outside nerd)

"In solitude, we are least alone"
gosuRob
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States319 Posts
October 07 2011 02:54 GMT
#2
Try only eating food when your hungry.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 02:54:45
October 07 2011 02:54 GMT
#3
You're in 8th grade and you're playing 4-6 hours every weekday?

Cut an hour out of that time and go running. You could try alternating running/swimming and strength training... basically, hit the gym (and get back on whatever diets you've tried)!

On October 07 2011 11:54 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Try only eating food when your hungry.

some people are constantly hungry...
:)
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 07 2011 02:59 GMT
#4
Cut fast food and do cardio, you will notice the changes.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
October 07 2011 02:59 GMT
#5
On October 07 2011 11:54 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Try only eating food when your hungry.


That's the dumbest advice I've ever heard. Outside of some psychological conditions, doesn't the normal person typically eat food only when hungry? That's kind of the stimulus that spurs the action of eating food.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
October 07 2011 03:02 GMT
#6
Cut the gaming a bit for some exercise. Don't run, unless that's something you're motivated to do. Do the exercise that is fun for you, whether it be throwing a frisbee around, jump rope, whatever. Keep track of how much you're eating, and using your BMI find out if it's too much.

You can always try paleo, which a lot here will suggest, but it's a pretty difficult transition.
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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
October 07 2011 03:06 GMT
#7
Thanks everyone! So far I bike around 4 miles a day on weekdays, and around 8 on weekends, but that doesn't seem to be enough, thanks though!
"In solitude, we are least alone"
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
October 07 2011 03:13 GMT
#8
Because you eat so much fast food, no offence, you probably don't have cooked meals alot. Try to eat some healthy food by either getting your parents to cook, or, if they can't, you might need to cook yourself or find a diet with a lot of vegetables. This may sound daunting, but for your own health you are gonna have to change your eating habits.

Also, join some kind of sporting team/squad/group. This is the easiest way to keep fit, while also making a lot of friends and having fun. Hopefully this will also cut back your playing time =P.

Now, your playing time. You are seriously going to have to cut back severely - if this is too hard for you, cut back little by little. First week, cut back half an hour a day. Second week, cut back one hour a day. Your going to need to be very determined to do this as you probably are addicted. If this does not work for you I seriously suggest you go to a councellor. Especially since you are only in year 8.

I think the biggest problem for you is the playing time. Diet + exercise is a much bigger problem to a lot of people, therefore being more help available. You should seek help for that. Your playing time is all about self-determination to cut back. You must do this for your greater good, otherwise you are setting yourself up to an unhealthy life :/

Sorry if this is very negative to you, I'm trying to give constructive critism. Remember, it's all about determination, and good luck!
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 07 2011 03:14 GMT
#9
On October 07 2011 12:06 Frostfire wrote:
Thanks everyone! So far I bike around 4 miles a day on weekdays, and around 8 on weekends, but that doesn't seem to be enough, thanks though!

You could also try something like Insanity or P90 (or P90X if you feel fit enough) too
:)
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 03:17:18
October 07 2011 03:16 GMT
#10
IMO not eating is more important than working out. I'm not overweight and I don't exercise at all, I just control my intake.
esports
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
October 07 2011 03:20 GMT
#11
not eating fails for like 95% of all people trying it. it works for a while, but the majority can't keep it up.



soooo... what worked for me is... i started eating more vegetables and fruits. not even everyday, and usually only once a day. i kinda exchange one regular meal by a shitload of vegetables and fruits. and i work out 3 times a week.

these two combined will almost guarantee you an easy and steady weightloss, that might be slow, but it's easily sustainable.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
October 07 2011 03:24 GMT
#12
well just deciding to exercise fails just as much if not more than trying to not eat lots.
But your right, substituting more healthy foods into your diet is easy and effective.
esports
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
October 07 2011 03:27 GMT
#13
5'8 and 157 lbs is overweight?

I know a lot of people around that height and weight and they don't even look close to overweight.
Solidarity
Profile Joined September 2011
United States78 Posts
October 07 2011 03:35 GMT
#14
Hey there, I am an avid gamer myself who has lost 90 pounds over the past 6 years (I'm 21). I understand the inherit difficult of trying to lose weight at your age, as you are mostly at the mercy of the stuff your parents get you, and I know for myself personally, that meant a lot of junk food. It's difficult to have a conversation with your parents about wanting to eat healthier and losing weight, and people can be judgmental about a desire to lose weight. When I first started, I cut out fast food by having a serious discussion with my mom about the food I was eating and, this is key, stopped drinking calories. You absolutely need to make a switch to water and diet soda. Do your best to count the amount of calories you eat in a day and do your absolute best to keep it between 1400-1700. If you cut out refined sugars and white carbs you can easily eat that number and be more than satisfied for the day. Essentially, whole grains, fruits, and green vegetables are your best friends. Avoid anything fried, sugary, or starchy, because white carbs, refined sugars and starches convert directly into fat. Eat at least 3 times a day, including when you wake up, and the smaller the better. Any form of exercise is better than nothing, I lost weight by playing basketball with my friends, but you can do it by biking like you've been doing, jogging, or maybe doing a workout like the others in this thread have mentioned (P90, Insanity, things like that, which cost money but can be attained through less scrupulous means).

Most of all, understand that losing weight isn't an overnight thing, it's a lifestyle change. Since you play a ton of Starcraft I can see just fine that you're able to dedicate yourself to something you deem important, so put that same passion in controlling what you eat and taking 30-90 minutes a day being active. Get your hands on a scale, too, and weigh yourself constantly. You'll see that after you begin to see the results you'll want more of it. Sorry for being long-winded, and I hope I was helpful
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
October 07 2011 03:39 GMT
#15
Thanks everyone ^.^
"In solitude, we are least alone"
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
October 07 2011 04:00 GMT
#16
On October 07 2011 12:27 K3Nyy wrote:
5'8 and 157 lbs is overweight?

I know a lot of people around that height and weight and they don't even look close to overweight.


It's entirely dependent on body composition. The height and weight by themselves mean nothing -> note that OP points out he has little muscle mass. I can attest to this: I am 5'10 and am similarly muscle-impoverished - I can drop all the way down to 135 lbs before I am totally lean.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 04:02:35
October 07 2011 04:01 GMT
#17
If you don't mind waiting a little(More like a year probably ) you could just cut down on the amounts of food you eat, and eat less more often to keep your unno what it's called in english* going. Worked for me ^^ Then again, not everyone has that high *dunno what it's called in english*

And of course, stay away from obviously unhealthy things.

Obviously this is not a great solution if you want to drop quickly, or you are really bothered by your weight
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RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
October 07 2011 04:08 GMT
#18
Tell your parents about your concern. Make sure you have a healthy target weight in mind. You are not hugely overweight or anything, just not very fit. If you approach this as-- OMG I NEED TO LOSE SO MUCH WEIGHT-- your parents' initial reaction maybe very negative if they are worried about you wanting to lose too much. Research a plan of action for you to be able to lose weight, and how this can fit into the overall lifestyle of your family (this part could be hard if your family is also very unhealthy).

Playing starcraft that much won't make you fat. Also riding your bike everyday is a pretty good low key exercise. It seems your eating habits are very poor though. It can be quite difficult to stick to a diet, however there are a few rules of thumb that can help you decide what to eat.

1 - # of ingredients. The more ingredients something has, probably the more processed it is with chemicals and preserves. You know what's in carrots? Carrots. You know what's in oatmeal? Dried oats. What's in chocolate puff sugar nonsense? About 30 things.
2 - Recognizable ingredients. The more chemicals and processed sugars in food, the worse off they are for you. If you recognize all the ingredients (and they aren't butter, lard, and sugar), it's probably healthier for you also.
3 - Drink water and milk. Don't worry too much about cutting from 1% to skim or anything. Just focus on cutting out sugary drinks like sodas, juices, and sports drinks (unhealthy unless you are actually participating in a high intensity sport and really need the extra sugar).
4 - The more colors your food is, the more kinds of nutrients you are getting. This applies to fruits and veggies, which you should try to eat lots of.

If any family members have issues related to weight and unhealthy life-style, such as type 2 diabetes, this can be part of your argument. If you still have trouble convincing your parents, bring it up with your school nurse, or your own personal doctor at the next visit (or drag your parents there for a second opinion).

GL. Get your homework done and make sure to spend time with friends too.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 04:15:11
October 07 2011 04:12 GMT
#19
On October 07 2011 11:59 Kashll wrote:
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On October 07 2011 11:54 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Try only eating food when your hungry.


That's the dumbest advice I've ever heard. Outside of some psychological conditions, doesn't the normal person typically eat food only when hungry? That's kind of the stimulus that spurs the action of eating food.


Huh?

Yes, people normally eat when they are hungry. Thats a given. Most people that are overweight however, continue to eat when they are satiated, or just eat when they aren't hungry.

It's definitely more than possible to follow the "eat when your hungry"/"listen to your body" approach. However to be successful with this it's pretty important to have good nutrition. If your throwing down a big soda, some fries, and a burger you can eat a very high number of calories and not feel all that full. On the other hand if your drinking plenty of water, high amounts of fruits/vegetables, less empty sugars, etc its much harder and if you listen to your body you can be quite successful.

Of course, there are many other approaches such as following a diet, following a weight loss program, counting calories, etc. Counting calories works because calories control weight. Nothing else.

3500 calories is equivalent to one pound. So if you eat 500 calories per day MORE than you are burning/using then you will gain one pound a week. Reverse the numbers and you lose one pound per week. It's VERY important though to understand that weight loss is not a day to day thing. One day you can check the scale and be 154, the next day, even with a good calorie deficit the day before you can be 158. Weight flucuates significantly day to day, and hour to hour. If you are going to measure your goal by weight loss, be sure to use a rolling average of 1-2 weeks, or else your get discouraged seeing a 154, followed by a 158 even though it means NOTHING.

It's worth noting that while you aren't at an "ideal" weight you aren't much overweight either. 157 and 5'8" is well within the "normal/healthy" range for BMI. Now for a guy with no muscle somewhere between 130 and 140 would have you at a very lean "ripped" 6-9% BF type range. So I'd say at MOST you might have 20 pounds to lose, if that.


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apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 04:22:07
October 07 2011 04:12 GMT
#20
Most people think that going on a severe diet will make them lose weight lol. but it's completly false. Most people who go into severe diet think that they will lose weight overnight, but they eventually give up and go back to their old habits of eating shitty food. I've been there, going on a severe diet, eventually i went back to eating crappy fast food and microwaveable dinners.

There's nothing wrong with eating meat, but stay away from fast foods. It's the shittiest thing you can do to your body and fast foods packs a shit ton of calories. Just one big mac + coke + large fries contain more calories than a healthy breakfast + healthy lunch + healthy dinner.

DO NOT DIET! FUCK DIET! If you like eating meat, do so, but not excessively and you need to exercise -- change your lifestyle. You do not need to go extreme on this. Just a daily 30 -45min work out will do! BUT IT HAS TO BE DAILY! Make it a habit and your body will become acustomed to it and your metabolism will improve and you'll burn quite some fat, but obviously not overnight. Commitment is required on your part if you want to be lean and healthy.

You love eating and always feeling hungry? Eat canned tuna! It has 0% fat. Meaning you could eat all you want. However, as awesome as that sounds. I suggest combining it with salad, tomato to add some taste or otherwise you'll get sick of it really fast. Do not add salt to it, as salt plays a major role in the whole make-you-fat.

Again, it's all about dedication, commitment and self-esteem. If you can find all those 3, you'll get closer to your goal every day. Set a time! Work out at that exact same time every single day! You're tired? Feel lazy? You should tell yourself that you don't give a fuck, it's xx:xx time and you hvae to work out.

You also need to drink a lot of water every day! I'm pretty sure you don't, and when you don't your body stores water, but once you make the habit of drinking a lot ( the human body requires at least 8 glass of water everyday to remain hydrated), your body will release that stored water. Oh, and avoid coke, pepsi etc.

--

EDIT

You do not need to buy any will-make-you-slim dvds! If you have an iphone or something, download the Nike Training Club. It's a free app, however, you will require to buy dumbells and a medicine ball, but it's worth it. I have tried P90x, Insanity challenge, George St-Pierre fit program and none of them were made for me. I got the Nike Training Club and I have been doing it for 5 weeks now, I'm not sure why I'm still using it, but it's been working for me so far!
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 04:19:24
October 07 2011 04:17 GMT
#21
On October 07 2011 13:12 apm66 wrote:
Most people think that going on a severe diet will make them lose weight lol. but it's completly false. Most people who go into severe diet think that they will lose weight overnight, but they eventually give up and go back to their old habits of eating shitty food. I've been there, going on a severe diet, eventually i went back to eating crappy fast food and microwaveable dinners.

There's nothing wrong with eating meat, but stay away from fast foods. It's the shittiest thing you can do to your body and fast foods packs a shit ton of calories. Just one big mac + coke + large fries contain more calories than a healthy breakfast + healthy lunch + healthy dinner.

DO NOT DIET! FUCK DIET! If you like eating meat, do so, but not excessively and you need to exercise -- change your lifestyle. You do not need to go extreme on this. Just a daily 30 -45min work out will do! BUT IT HAS TO BE DAILY! Make it a habit and your body will become acustomed to it and your metabolism will improve and you'll burn quite some fat, but obviously not overnight. Commitment is required on your part if you want to be lean and healthy.

You love eating and always feeling hungry? Eat canned tuna! It has 0% fat. Meaning you could eat all you want. However, as awesome as that sounds. I suggest combining it with salad, tomato to add some taste or otherwise you'll get sick of it really fast. Do not add salt to it, as salt plays a major role in the whole make-you-fat.

Again, it's all about dedication, commitment and self-esteem. If you can find all those 3, you'll get closer to your goal every day.


Uh what?

While tuna isn't high calorie, if I started eating 20-30 of those little albacore tuna cans (as in thats all I'm eating) I'd get fat in a hurry.


On October 07 2011 12:27 K3Nyy wrote:
5'8 and 157 lbs is overweight?

I know a lot of people around that height and weight and they don't even look close to overweight.


Depends on what you mean by overweight. If we are talking about a healthy weight range at which you look fine then no, its not really overweight. If we mean overweight as in over the optimum weight for performance then yes, its somewhat overweight. If a guy is 5'8", six-pack, 7% BF type of guy he is going to be pretty damn big. The type of look that you think damn, this guy spends some serious time in the gym.
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apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
October 07 2011 04:23 GMT
#22
On October 07 2011 13:17 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 13:12 apm66 wrote:
Most people think that going on a severe diet will make them lose weight lol. but it's completly false. Most people who go into severe diet think that they will lose weight overnight, but they eventually give up and go back to their old habits of eating shitty food. I've been there, going on a severe diet, eventually i went back to eating crappy fast food and microwaveable dinners.

There's nothing wrong with eating meat, but stay away from fast foods. It's the shittiest thing you can do to your body and fast foods packs a shit ton of calories. Just one big mac + coke + large fries contain more calories than a healthy breakfast + healthy lunch + healthy dinner.

DO NOT DIET! FUCK DIET! If you like eating meat, do so, but not excessively and you need to exercise -- change your lifestyle. You do not need to go extreme on this. Just a daily 30 -45min work out will do! BUT IT HAS TO BE DAILY! Make it a habit and your body will become acustomed to it and your metabolism will improve and you'll burn quite some fat, but obviously not overnight. Commitment is required on your part if you want to be lean and healthy.

You love eating and always feeling hungry? Eat canned tuna! It has 0% fat. Meaning you could eat all you want. However, as awesome as that sounds. I suggest combining it with salad, tomato to add some taste or otherwise you'll get sick of it really fast. Do not add salt to it, as salt plays a major role in the whole make-you-fat.

Again, it's all about dedication, commitment and self-esteem. If you can find all those 3, you'll get closer to your goal every day.


Uh what?

While tuna isn't high calorie, if I started eating 20-30 of those little albacore tuna cans (as in thats all I'm eating) I'd get fat in a hurry.


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On October 07 2011 12:27 K3Nyy wrote:
5'8 and 157 lbs is overweight?

I know a lot of people around that height and weight and they don't even look close to overweight.


Depends on what you mean by overweight. If we are talking about a healthy weight range at which you look fine then no, its not really overweight. If we mean overweight as in over the optimum weight for performance then yes, its somewhat overweight. If a guy is 5'8", six-pack, 7% BF type of guy he is going to be pretty damn big. The type of look that you think damn, this guy spends some serious time in the gym.



There are different kinds of tuna, and you're obviously buying the ones that has fat in it. Read the nutrition facts. Some of them have 0 fat.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
October 07 2011 04:25 GMT
#23
As an adolescent, food matters a lot less than it normally would. Obviously, you can't eat an exorbitant amount of food, but you don't really have to watch what you eat so long as you work out.

Personally, I hate going outside so I stick to the gym.
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Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
October 07 2011 04:25 GMT
#24
You just need to stop eating fast food man. Fast food everyday literally slows you down... your metabolism, your thinking, your energy levels.

If you want to stop eating fast food, but don't really know how to cook, your can pan fry (saute) chicken breasts and vegetables. You can also microwave a sweet potato for a healthy carb.

Just try stuff like that. You can saute egg plant, zuchini, etc. and a lot of broccoli, cauliflour and carrots come in steamable bags. Pork chops and chicken are also easy to saute, just cut them open to see that they are cooked.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
October 07 2011 04:25 GMT
#25
Fat isn't bad for you ^^
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 04:27:53
October 07 2011 04:27 GMT
#26
Cut down on the fast food, and you should be good.

Also, cut an hour or so off of gaming and run
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J.Dong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States102 Posts
October 07 2011 04:51 GMT
#27
Never drink any other beverage other than water. Unless it's a special occasion e.g. big party. Water is so good -- drinking more will make it easier to lose weight too as you need to be hydrated to effectively use muscles and it feels so good.

I only drink other beverages for the social benefits. I don't ever get myself any soda shit or Gatorade garbage, however good people say it is. I don't put any sugar in my coffee either -- black is better.
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Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
October 07 2011 04:58 GMT
#28
Yeah you don't need to do anything drastic. Just start out small.

Cut out the drinks - except for water, and maybe skim milk or 2%.

Then, cut out all the empty calories you're eating. Replace them with veggies, meats, whatever you know is good.

Then work on portion control such as eating only when you're hungry. Cutting down on mindless snacking.

At the same time you're doing all this, just exercise lightly on the bike or play a fun aerobic sport like basketball or badminton (lol). This will accelerate the results.

Most of all, set aside a meal where you can eat a dessert or something you crave. It becomes something that you look forward to, as sort of a "reward" for staying healthy. Although, you don't need to do this, as being healthy is a good enough reward imo. GL! Losing weight is an honorable goal for the period of time we're living in.
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
October 07 2011 05:32 GMT
#29
You don't lose weight by dieting. When you diet you lose something. Also, when you try to lose weight your losing something. When you lose something you're habitually programmed to look for it. Get rid of the idea of losing weight. Start to see yourself in the body you want to live in. Begin to think, feel, and act like the person you want to be in your ideal body. You will see tremendous progress.
KWik-E
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
October 07 2011 06:05 GMT
#30
Haha I know you are already getting a lot of love in this thread already but I figure more love can't hurt. I know it is pretty hard to control your diet especially when most of your meals are probably dependent on your family. The number one thing you can control is what you are drinking.

Also you are so young, are there any sports you are interested? Once you get into high school you should definitely try to get on a sports team! (and if you want to get on a team that can be motivation for you to start eating better and exercising more)

GL HF
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 07:29:12
October 07 2011 07:25 GMT
#31
On October 07 2011 13:23 apm66 wrote:
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On October 07 2011 13:17 L_Master wrote:
On October 07 2011 13:12 apm66 wrote:
Most people think that going on a severe diet will make them lose weight lol. but it's completly false. Most people who go into severe diet think that they will lose weight overnight, but they eventually give up and go back to their old habits of eating shitty food. I've been there, going on a severe diet, eventually i went back to eating crappy fast food and microwaveable dinners.

There's nothing wrong with eating meat, but stay away from fast foods. It's the shittiest thing you can do to your body and fast foods packs a shit ton of calories. Just one big mac + coke + large fries contain more calories than a healthy breakfast + healthy lunch + healthy dinner.

DO NOT DIET! FUCK DIET! If you like eating meat, do so, but not excessively and you need to exercise -- change your lifestyle. You do not need to go extreme on this. Just a daily 30 -45min work out will do! BUT IT HAS TO BE DAILY! Make it a habit and your body will become acustomed to it and your metabolism will improve and you'll burn quite some fat, but obviously not overnight. Commitment is required on your part if you want to be lean and healthy.

You love eating and always feeling hungry? Eat canned tuna! It has 0% fat. Meaning you could eat all you want. However, as awesome as that sounds. I suggest combining it with salad, tomato to add some taste or otherwise you'll get sick of it really fast. Do not add salt to it, as salt plays a major role in the whole make-you-fat.

Again, it's all about dedication, commitment and self-esteem. If you can find all those 3, you'll get closer to your goal every day.


Uh what?

While tuna isn't high calorie, if I started eating 20-30 of those little albacore tuna cans (as in thats all I'm eating) I'd get fat in a hurry.


On October 07 2011 12:27 K3Nyy wrote:
5'8 and 157 lbs is overweight?

I know a lot of people around that height and weight and they don't even look close to overweight.


Depends on what you mean by overweight. If we are talking about a healthy weight range at which you look fine then no, its not really overweight. If we mean overweight as in over the optimum weight for performance then yes, its somewhat overweight. If a guy is 5'8", six-pack, 7% BF type of guy he is going to be pretty damn big. The type of look that you think damn, this guy spends some serious time in the gym.



There are different kinds of tuna, and you're obviously buying the ones that has fat in it. Read the nutrition facts. Some of them have 0 fat.


0 fat? Who cares?

Fat has nothing to do with weight loss...

It's entirely a matter of calories in vs calories out. I could eat nothing but butter and lose weight, and I could eat nothing but tuna, apples, etc, and gain weight. The only way fat affects weight loss is that fat is a source of calories, 9 cal per gram. However, carbs and protein also contain calories so fat is not the only source.

In sum, calories control weight loss/gain. Not amount of fat, not amount of sugars, etc.

Get rid of the idea of losing weight. Start to see yourself in the body you want to live in.


This I'm okay with, nothing at all wrong with that.

Begin to think, feel, and act like the person you want to be in your ideal body. You will see tremendous progress.


No, he won't. Unless he changes his eating/exercises habits. I'm not convinced seeing yourself in the body you want will result in someone changing their eating habits or exercise patterns.
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tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
October 07 2011 13:32 GMT
#32
On October 07 2011 16:25 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 13:23 apm66 wrote:
On October 07 2011 13:17 L_Master wrote:
On October 07 2011 13:12 apm66 wrote:
Most people think that going on a severe diet will make them lose weight lol. but it's completly false. Most people who go into severe diet think that they will lose weight overnight, but they eventually give up and go back to their old habits of eating shitty food. I've been there, going on a severe diet, eventually i went back to eating crappy fast food and microwaveable dinners.

There's nothing wrong with eating meat, but stay away from fast foods. It's the shittiest thing you can do to your body and fast foods packs a shit ton of calories. Just one big mac + coke + large fries contain more calories than a healthy breakfast + healthy lunch + healthy dinner.

DO NOT DIET! FUCK DIET! If you like eating meat, do so, but not excessively and you need to exercise -- change your lifestyle. You do not need to go extreme on this. Just a daily 30 -45min work out will do! BUT IT HAS TO BE DAILY! Make it a habit and your body will become acustomed to it and your metabolism will improve and you'll burn quite some fat, but obviously not overnight. Commitment is required on your part if you want to be lean and healthy.

You love eating and always feeling hungry? Eat canned tuna! It has 0% fat. Meaning you could eat all you want. However, as awesome as that sounds. I suggest combining it with salad, tomato to add some taste or otherwise you'll get sick of it really fast. Do not add salt to it, as salt plays a major role in the whole make-you-fat.

Again, it's all about dedication, commitment and self-esteem. If you can find all those 3, you'll get closer to your goal every day.


Uh what?

While tuna isn't high calorie, if I started eating 20-30 of those little albacore tuna cans (as in thats all I'm eating) I'd get fat in a hurry.


On October 07 2011 12:27 K3Nyy wrote:
5'8 and 157 lbs is overweight?

I know a lot of people around that height and weight and they don't even look close to overweight.


Depends on what you mean by overweight. If we are talking about a healthy weight range at which you look fine then no, its not really overweight. If we mean overweight as in over the optimum weight for performance then yes, its somewhat overweight. If a guy is 5'8", six-pack, 7% BF type of guy he is going to be pretty damn big. The type of look that you think damn, this guy spends some serious time in the gym.



There are different kinds of tuna, and you're obviously buying the ones that has fat in it. Read the nutrition facts. Some of them have 0 fat.


0 fat? Who cares?

Fat has nothing to do with weight loss...

It's entirely a matter of calories in vs calories out. I could eat nothing but butter and lose weight, and I could eat nothing but tuna, apples, etc, and gain weight. The only way fat affects weight loss is that fat is a source of calories, 9 cal per gram. However, carbs and protein also contain calories so fat is not the only source.

In sum, calories control weight loss/gain. Not amount of fat, not amount of sugars, etc.

Show nested quote +
Get rid of the idea of losing weight. Start to see yourself in the body you want to live in.


This I'm okay with, nothing at all wrong with that.

Show nested quote +
Begin to think, feel, and act like the person you want to be in your ideal body. You will see tremendous progress.


No, he won't. Unless he changes his eating/exercises habits. I'm not convinced seeing yourself in the body you want will result in someone changing their eating habits or exercise patterns.


Actually, seeing yourself in the body you want is the key to changing your eating and exercising habits. If you just change them to simple lose weight, there will be no motivation and you will end up looking for the weight after you lose it. Do you think its an accident most people who go on a diet and lose weight typically gain back most of the weight and in some cases even more weight than they lose?

What is motivating an individual and keeping them working towards their goal of losing weight? Is it the vision of themselves in the body they want or the excitement that comes from visioning yourself dieting?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 07 2011 14:15 GMT
#33
On October 07 2011 22:32 tryummm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 16:25 L_Master wrote:
On October 07 2011 13:23 apm66 wrote:
On October 07 2011 13:17 L_Master wrote:
On October 07 2011 13:12 apm66 wrote:
Most people think that going on a severe diet will make them lose weight lol. but it's completly false. Most people who go into severe diet think that they will lose weight overnight, but they eventually give up and go back to their old habits of eating shitty food. I've been there, going on a severe diet, eventually i went back to eating crappy fast food and microwaveable dinners.

There's nothing wrong with eating meat, but stay away from fast foods. It's the shittiest thing you can do to your body and fast foods packs a shit ton of calories. Just one big mac + coke + large fries contain more calories than a healthy breakfast + healthy lunch + healthy dinner.

DO NOT DIET! FUCK DIET! If you like eating meat, do so, but not excessively and you need to exercise -- change your lifestyle. You do not need to go extreme on this. Just a daily 30 -45min work out will do! BUT IT HAS TO BE DAILY! Make it a habit and your body will become acustomed to it and your metabolism will improve and you'll burn quite some fat, but obviously not overnight. Commitment is required on your part if you want to be lean and healthy.

You love eating and always feeling hungry? Eat canned tuna! It has 0% fat. Meaning you could eat all you want. However, as awesome as that sounds. I suggest combining it with salad, tomato to add some taste or otherwise you'll get sick of it really fast. Do not add salt to it, as salt plays a major role in the whole make-you-fat.

Again, it's all about dedication, commitment and self-esteem. If you can find all those 3, you'll get closer to your goal every day.


Uh what?

While tuna isn't high calorie, if I started eating 20-30 of those little albacore tuna cans (as in thats all I'm eating) I'd get fat in a hurry.


On October 07 2011 12:27 K3Nyy wrote:
5'8 and 157 lbs is overweight?

I know a lot of people around that height and weight and they don't even look close to overweight.


Depends on what you mean by overweight. If we are talking about a healthy weight range at which you look fine then no, its not really overweight. If we mean overweight as in over the optimum weight for performance then yes, its somewhat overweight. If a guy is 5'8", six-pack, 7% BF type of guy he is going to be pretty damn big. The type of look that you think damn, this guy spends some serious time in the gym.



There are different kinds of tuna, and you're obviously buying the ones that has fat in it. Read the nutrition facts. Some of them have 0 fat.


0 fat? Who cares?

Fat has nothing to do with weight loss...

It's entirely a matter of calories in vs calories out. I could eat nothing but butter and lose weight, and I could eat nothing but tuna, apples, etc, and gain weight. The only way fat affects weight loss is that fat is a source of calories, 9 cal per gram. However, carbs and protein also contain calories so fat is not the only source.

In sum, calories control weight loss/gain. Not amount of fat, not amount of sugars, etc.

Get rid of the idea of losing weight. Start to see yourself in the body you want to live in.


This I'm okay with, nothing at all wrong with that.

Begin to think, feel, and act like the person you want to be in your ideal body. You will see tremendous progress.


No, he won't. Unless he changes his eating/exercises habits. I'm not convinced seeing yourself in the body you want will result in someone changing their eating habits or exercise patterns.


Actually, seeing yourself in the body you want is the key to changing your eating and exercising habits. If you just change them to simple lose weight, there will be no motivation and you will end up looking for the weight after you lose it. Do you think its an accident most people who go on a diet and lose weight typically gain back most of the weight and in some cases even more weight than they lose?

What is motivating an individual and keeping them working towards their goal of losing weight? Is it the vision of themselves in the body they want or the excitement that comes from visioning yourself dieting?


Definitely don't disagree there. However, you actually have to make the changes and start controlling your exercising/weight loss. I can envision myself in the most awesome body I want but if I keep eating the same and not exercising I'm never going to achieve that. What your advocating certainly helps people to make those changes, but if you don't actually make a change you can't get anywhere

If you just change them to simple lose weight, there will be no motivation and you will end up looking for the weight after you lose it


I have no idea what this means, namely the part about looking for the weight.
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biamila
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada335 Posts
October 07 2011 16:43 GMT
#34
My pieces of advice, as somebody who was chubby through school:

Diet: No, not "eat way less" but more than anything find CLEAN things to eat. Hopefully your parents do (are willing, if asked) stock the house with some healthy food items. Fast food is a big no no.

Your optimum choices here are lean meats (fish, chicken, less red meat), piles of vegetables, some fruit, and then some whole grains (oats, whole wheat pasta, brown rice, quinoa)

Something that was VERY helpful for me was calorie counting. Don't try to drastically lower the amount of calories you are getting per day (unless you're eating ~3000+) but keep track of what you eat, and where your calories are coming from. If you're not exercising much, you don't want to be getting 2000 calories a day in fats and simple sugars. That will dump straight onto your body.

Exercise: There are about a million options here, and you will need to find what you like. The important part, more than anything, is just doing SOMETHING.

There are of course the obvious choices of joining a team sport, either at school or in the community. However, being a chubby kid at heart myself, I know this can seem very daunting, at least at first. Do keep it in mind though, because not only is it great exercise, it's a lot of fun, and you'll meet people.

However, if this isn't your cup of tea, you have other options.
Judging by what you said (5'8'', ~160), you should try to add some muscle mass to your body. Look into local community rec centres for introductions to weight lifting, or maybe your school has a gym, or even a strength training class (mine did, maybe yours does too?)

If you're going to look into weight lifting, MAKE SURE TO GET TAUGHT. Weights are an amazing tool for fitness, but at the same time, it's important to make sure you get shown the proper way to use them. Like any tool, weights can be dangerous if used improperly.

At the same time, there are TONS of exercises you can do with nothing but your body. Calisthenics are a great example.

THIS SITE has tons of information for body weight based exercising. Meet the burpee. He is your king. As well, I love this site because of the time factor. You can do an exhausting workout in 15-20 minutes in your own home. Hard to beat that.

Finally, you have the options of simply doing some cardio. Running, swimming, biking. All are good options, though not my personal favourites (just my own preference, really)

Finally, one more fun one, in the vein of team sports is martial arts. I started practicing MMA a few years back and it's been great. I'm stronger, thinner, healthier, and fitter than ever before in my life. I went from 5'9.5'' and about 190-195 down to 170, and reasonably lean.

If you have any questions about ANYTHING, don't hesistate to PM me. I love this stuff, and I lvoe SC2. Balance in life is possible. Plus, you will FEEL better for making these changes in your life. Good food is good for the soul, and the brain.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
October 07 2011 19:36 GMT
#35
We have an health and fitness forum, check it out!
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10499 Posts
October 07 2011 20:01 GMT
#36
You should be less concerned with being overweight and more concerned about eating yourself into an early grave. If you're eating fast food you're probably eating a lot of saturated/trans fat, a lot of red meat, very little fiber, very little nutrients, etc. I wonder what kills you first, a heart attack or colon cancer.
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 01:49:11
October 08 2011 01:48 GMT
#37
On October 07 2011 11:50 Frostfire wrote:
I think it's due to eating only fast food


I think this is probably the easiest way to fix things. You would be surprised at how much healthy food you could get for a week compared to how much eating fast food costs when added up throughout that week. Just make it a point to your parents that you want to lose weight and I bet anything they will help you with this endeavor.
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
October 08 2011 05:40 GMT
#38
If you're 5'8" and 157lbs, then you're underweight.

Read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-2nd-Mark-Rippetoe/dp/0976805421/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318052389&sr=8-1

Then spend an hour at the gym three times a week.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 06:11:33
October 08 2011 06:09 GMT
#39
What the hell is up with the OP. 160 pounds isn't overweight unless you are ~10 years old or something.

What disturbs me even more is that most of the people in this thread offer advice ignoring this fact.

Bulk up a bit, smash some tasty pies into that bony vampire face.
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
October 08 2011 08:22 GMT
#40
Change your diet. Fast food is very high in calories, but super low in nutrition -- so your body keeps craving more nutrition.

I lost some weight (about 4lbs or so, but I was pretty decent weight prior to this change) over the course of a few months just from a simple diet change. I didn't exercise at all and I had really weird sleeping hours. I just kept hydrated and stopped eating unhealthy foods.

I eat muesli with soymilk almost every morning. It's a cheap and healthy breakfast. :D
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Danjoh
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden405 Posts
October 08 2011 09:16 GMT
#41
I wasn't much overweight, just a bit out of shape, but basicly what I did was set up some personal rules/goals.

*For diet, I'm only allowed to order takeaway once per week. The rest of the time I can eat anything, as long as it's not prepared in the microwave.Snacks and candy only on the weekends, drink (orange/apple/whatever)-juice whenever I'm thirsty instead of soda, it feels more refreshing, and I don't get more thirsty by drinking it...

*Everytime I lost a game, I did 10 pushups, 10 situps or 15 squats (don't forget to stretch in the evening)

*Every night before I go to sleep, I'd go out and run until I felt my legs couldn't hold me up anymore (this wasn't very far in the begining).



Result was that food was still very bad in the begning, but after eating simple cooked food for quite some time (noodles, mostly) I started craving some variations and have now started cooking more varied food, it also forced me to plan food ahead and get into a good eating schedule.

I lost alot in the begining, because after 10 pushups my arms felt like jelly and wouldn't respond as I wanted in the following games, wich led to more exercise... After a while, 10 pushups felt like nothing and I started doing all 3 exercies everytime I lost. Now I've increased the number of repetitions, and I get a craving to drop down and do as many pushups as I can all the time when I feel restless...

Running was intended just to help me fall asleep, but it also helped to build up overall stamina and makes me feel more awake during the days. Also, if you go out running late at night, there's a very low chance of meeting someone, and if you do, it's proabably just a old lady walking her dog, so you don't feel you need to compare yourself to that couple who are casually talking while running like it's nothing.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 08 2011 22:00 GMT
#42
On October 08 2011 14:40 svefnleysi wrote:
If you're 5'8" and 157lbs, then you're underweight.

Read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-2nd-Mark-Rippetoe/dp/0976805421/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318052389&sr=8-1

Then spend an hour at the gym three times a week.



On October 08 2011 15:09 Geovu wrote:
What the hell is up with the OP. 160 pounds isn't overweight unless you are ~10 years old or something.

What disturbs me even more is that most of the people in this thread offer advice ignoring this fact.

Bulk up a bit, smash some tasty pies into that bony vampire face.


No.

160 at 5'8" is NOT in anyway underweight, unless you had like 20" arms of something. Now, it's not really overweight (as in unhealthy overweight) but I assure you the OP has alot more fat floating on him than he would like. Probably has a pudgy look and/or a gut.

Nothing wrong with bulking up, it good advice, but if he wants to look "cut" he has a good 10-20 pounds of fat to lose.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
October 08 2011 22:44 GMT
#43
Drink water instead of juice, pop, or energy drinks.

Stop eating five hours before going to bed (drink water if you feel hungry).
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 23:09:52
October 08 2011 23:08 GMT
#44
Tbh it sounds like the usual is required

Eat 5 meals a day of 400 calories each, lift weights 3-5x a week, doing the usual strength training of deadlift, benchpress and back squat

Build strength and you will build muscle and cut fat
gg

and btw, really, you need to build muscle before you think about losing weight

if you gain muscle, you convert your fat into muscle and you will look much leaner regardless
ssi.bal-listic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States568 Posts
October 09 2011 00:00 GMT
#45
157 LB and 5'8" is overweight?
No way especially since you're in America.
Maybe you should try daily pushups if u want some muscles. Maybe buy a dumbell
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
October 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#46
Eat healthy food(lots of fish). Eat many times a day, but not too much every time. Try to eat every three hours.

Start jogging or biking, and use interval training.

Try this program:
Warm-up: 10mins
High pressure(work your way towards 90% effort): 4 mins
Low pressure(low enough pressure to be able to talk to people): 3 mins
High pressure(this time start at 90% effort): 4 mins
Low pressure(same as before): 3 mins
High pressure: 4 mins
Low pressure: 3 mins
Warm-down: 5-10mins

If you find this too hard(you probably will, it's pretty tough), have high pressure for 2 mins instead of 4, but keep the low pressure at 3 mins. Exercise this interval training three times a week(maybe monday, wednesday and friday?) and then do push-ups and sit-ups on the days in-between.(10 push-ups and 20 sit-ups is actually enough, although you can do more if you feel like it).

Also, eat as little candy and sugar as possible.

Good luck, have fun!
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LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
October 09 2011 13:52 GMT
#47
On October 07 2011 11:59 Kashll wrote:
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On October 07 2011 11:54 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Try only eating food when your hungry.


That's the dumbest advice I've ever heard. Outside of some psychological conditions, doesn't the normal person typically eat food only when hungry? That's kind of the stimulus that spurs the action of eating food.


no, some of us eat food when we're bored, or tired of what we're doing want want a break, or when family says "hey i've got a snack!" or etc.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 09 2011 17:39 GMT
#48
The first and easiest thing to do is to cut fast food/sodas. Try taking up a hobby like cooking as you likely don't have a lot of money it will encourage you to make simple foods with lots of vegetables/white meats/etc. that are generally pretty healthy.

shit I lost about 5 lb off the bat cutting soda and drinking a lot more water/changing my diet.
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gosuRob
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States319 Posts
October 10 2011 09:13 GMT
#49
On October 07 2011 11:59 Kashll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 11:54 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Try only eating food when your hungry.


That's the dumbest advice I've ever heard. Outside of some psychological conditions, doesn't the normal person typically eat food only when hungry? That's kind of the stimulus that spurs the action of eating food.


You are so wrong... I know from experience(I was once obese) that overweight people do not 'typically eat food only when hungry'. I remember a time where I would spend my entire waking moment of free time inside and on the computer gaming, and nothing amplified the fun I was having like a good snack or something delicious. Overweight people eat food just because they are bored, or when they are feeling sad, and most of the time, just for the taste. Eating food for an obese person is a bad habit and if you get rid of those bad habits you lose weight like crazy. I was 14 years old 200 pounds at my worse, and now im 18 and 170 and probably about 6" taller too. Stopping myself from pigging out just for the pure enjoyment of it and only eating when I was physically 'hungry' was the best thing I ever did for my body honestly
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