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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
On September 27 2011 23:06 Clbull wrote: I'm tempted to try out RO, but I have a question. 1. Have they geoblocked Europeans from signing up to iRO? Because I checked out the European website and it was badly designed. Basically, the first language that came up was French, I switched the language to English, I checked an English section of the website to find out the language auto-switched back to French. Some of the menus didn't get translated and there clearly wasn't a working English option for some of the pages. 2. How far behind is Europe in terms of updates? If it's really far behind (I'm talking Europe MapleStory behind then I won't bother. 1. I am pretty sure Europeans can sign up to iRO as I have played with multiple europeans in my guild. 2. Not sure how far Europe is behind but I think iRO is somewhere from 6 months to 1 year behind. They have delayed putting the new skill patch in for a while now and have done some events to apologize for that. | ||
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bebe01
Korea (South)512 Posts
Same thing happened in sc2.. Got into GM and quit season 3.. Diablo 3 pl0x | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
But I really liked Dark Age of Camelot. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On September 28 2011 06:24 bebe01 wrote: Back when I played in tbc I was a pvp fanatic.. Multiple gladiator toons and rank 1 titles on my rogue... Was very fun back then.. Also was part of a top tier raiding guild... All on shattered hand xD... Game got boring in cata.... I think my interest burns out once I get to the top level( or near it ) Same thing happened in sc2.. Got into GM and quit season 3.. Diablo 3 pl0x best brag post iv ever seen haha, I cant wait for d3 too. probably going to take a week off to play  | ||
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
Haha  On a serious note, the only MMO i was ever any good at was RO, and thats because its the only MMO with a legitimate skill factor in it. That is, having a strong guild of friends who know what they are doing is enough to totally 100% roll other guilds with a vastly inferior numbercount using skill and teamwork alone. For example, on eRO, me and our guild got all 25 of us to max level 99/70 on a 3x server within 4 days of the server opening. Within the next 3 days after that we were all fully geared for WoE Pretty much people don't understand how this is possible to do but its just skill and teamwork Oh, and when i say all 25 of us, we each had about 4-5 accounts with different characters, so overall we farmed about 50 billion exp in about 4 days | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
I was looking for a way to perhaps squeeze some more enjoyment out of World of Warcraft and perhaps forming a guild where raiding and rated pvp is an option but not something we're meant to hardcorely set a schedule for is a good idea. I mean I wanted to experience the game but not basically be told to be on at around 9pm on a tuesday and friday night every week else lose 50DKP, get the scorn of my raid leader or get outright booted from the guild. I checked using the search function several times and know of no TeamLiquid guilds that have formed lately on EU. I believe one did form on US but Is anybody up for doing this on WoW or another MMO? I was thinking if I were to form this, I'd probably name it something unique other than TeamLiquid or Team Liquid, much like how Reddit has a horde guild on Sargeras-US called "Karma Horde" | ||
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
This game... my o my, the game that punishes you hardcore, but when you succeed, it'll give you the best feeling. Literally, if you don't have a second computer (or you use windower) to look stuff up on the net such as quests, where to buy items etc, don't bother playing. You start off and you will have NO IDEA wtf to do, there's no indicator on your map nor any easy signs to point you out. A slow paced game, a Great Axe will swing once every 8 seconds at the start, a dagger will poke once every 4 seconds. Take into the fact you'll have a 70% accuracy rating in general (less as you fight slightly tougher creeps). To rest to full health at the start, it will take you a good minute or 2. If you don't have at least an hour to play, don't bother turning on the game because you won't achieve much. Now the end of the rant, lets move to the good points of this lovely game. Getting into a party of 6 to level up was literally the best thing in the world. Inherently, Japanese players have IMMACULATE teamwork, no words need to be said, everyone knows what to do and when exactly to do it. A good party will level up very very quickly and the addiction of getting a perfect party will itch you hardcore. The game was about balance, you needed a tank, physical dps, sub-tank/dps, healer, caster, support caster. Thankfully, there was no job/class that was overpowered nor underpowered. Because you were fighting creeps that were 5-8 levels(ie: they can 1-2 shot a caster) above you, threat of a party wipeout was always there and thats probably why everyone who actually played the game was quite pro at it. About teamwork, for the tank, he needs to keep the creep focused on him the whole time, the healer cannot heal too quickly, a mage cannot cast too often. Combined with the long rest nature, casters must be very very efficient with their mana. The game rewarded parties that could kill strong creeps through bonus EXP if you can kill successive creeps (EXP Chain). See where I'm heading? Better the party, your leveling time decreases exponentially. There's a bucketload more I'd like to share. TL:DR: Do not play if your a casual gamer | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On September 28 2011 15:15 Zariel wrote: Ahhh... the memories of Final Fantasy XI This game... my o my, the game that punishes you hardcore, but when you succeed, it'll give you the best feeling. Literally, if you don't have a second computer (or you use windower) to look stuff up on the net such as quests, where to buy items etc, don't bother playing. You start off and you will have NO IDEA wtf to do, there's no indicator on your map nor any easy signs to point you out. A slow paced game, a Great Axe will swing once every 8 seconds at the start, a dagger will poke once every 4 seconds. Take into the fact you'll have a 70% accuracy rating in general (less as you fight slightly tougher creeps). To rest to full health at the start, it will take you a good minute or 2. If you don't have at least an hour to play, don't bother turning on the game because you won't achieve much. Now the end of the rant, lets move to the good points of this lovely game. Getting into a party of 6 to level up was literally the best thing in the world. Inherently, Japanese players have IMMACULATE teamwork, no words need to be said, everyone knows what to do and when exactly to do it. A good party will level up very very quickly and the addiction of getting a perfect party will itch you hardcore. The game was about balance, you needed a tank, physical dps, sub-tank/dps, healer, caster, support caster. Thankfully, there was no job/class that was overpowered nor underpowered. Because you were fighting creeps that were 5-8 levels(ie: they can 1-2 shot a caster) above you, threat of a party wipeout was always there and thats probably why everyone who actually played the game was quite pro at it. About teamwork, for the tank, he needs to keep the creep focused on him the whole time, the healer cannot heal too quickly, a mage cannot cast too often. Combined with the long rest nature, casters must be very very efficient with their mana. The game rewarded parties that could kill strong creeps through bonus EXP if you can kill successive creeps (EXP Chain). See where I'm heading? Better the party, your leveling time decreases exponentially. There's a bucketload more I'd like to share. TL:DR: Do not play if your a casual gamer hahahah OMG yes. I remember being like 13 and my sleep schedule involved going to bed at 6 in the morning, waking up at like Noon and then playing all day, but always making sure that at about 2 in the morning I would go LFG [Japanese] [ok] . Lol the trick to leveling in this game, was playing a high demand class and rolling with all JP groups. IDK why but every JP group leveled 5-10x faster for some reason they were just infinitely better, was the best. Also my fondest memories = my last 2 months of this game I did nothing but fish on the boat from Selbina hoping to see a Kraken kill everyone, or a lvl 75 to come on the boat and kill the kraken. And the Pirate event was super awsome too. The reason i quit FFXI- chances on loot drops. I once killed Leaping Lizzy 13/15 spawns in a row and didnt get the goddamn boots -_-. That and towards the end of my FFXI career is when they released the PS ports so leveling with retarded kids on their playstations who had no keyboard so they couldnt communicate made leveling HELL. and they were always terrible. So i spent my last 2 months shooting the shit with my linkshell friends, just fishing and watching the Kraken and pirates kill people lol. I was working on Lu Shangs but didnt have the patience to finish that task lol talking about this makes me miss FFXI and really irritated that the latest FF mmo was such complete and total garbage... seriously they should have taken FFXI given it better graphics, let people jump. And all would have been good. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On September 28 2011 00:22 darcevader88 wrote: where do i start? It all begin one dark dark day in the summer of.. yea i dont remember which year LOL but anyway, my first MMo experience was with a little game called Last Kingdom, which was pretty damn fun at the time (note: i was maybe 12?) i played for like 6 months and then the game was cancelled on me just as i approached max leve l  still makes me angry. From there I moved onto UO where I played on numerous free shards, from arcadia?(arcodia!?) to some smaller ones my friends were hosting/gming (i even gm'ed a few mid level ones at the time) played the crap out of UO for as long as i could possibly play during junior high -> into high school. woah totally forgot, in between UO and WoW i played a crap load of iRO and to like 79/40~?? or somewhere there as a mage->wiz.. that shit was ultra fun but got SOOO grindy and none of my friends played so it was a lot of solo shiz Grade 11 in high school i get introduced to WoW (i was also a d2 addict) so i got into WoW beta and i was hooked like a junkie, play the everliving crap out of WoW, top 15 in world guild clearing almost all content (aftermath lightning's blade [necronis]), pvped the hell out of it aswell (my true passion) got to rank 14, had pretty much every pvp item you could want in the game. BC rolls out, I decide it's just not worth it to do that all over again to be the best and quit/sell my acct / move on to RL until sc2 comes out and boom. I keep trying to get out, and you can't DRAGGING ME BACK! (damn you blizz) US Lightnings Blade? If Alliance, I played on that server for the first 2 years of WoW. Was good friends with Jookya, Ming, Tangji. 3 of the first Grand Marshalls (? equivalent of alliance High Warlords, but back when getting these titles meant 60-70 hours a week of nothing but ganking in open fields) Was in Sigil for a bit. There was a UD warlock whose name I cant remember.. who was known server wide for premade PvP'ing it was like "Constantine" or something, i remember he was UD lock and whenever you got into a BG vs his premades the alliance would just accept defeat and wait for next game lol. The most epic pvp time in WoW was vanilla seeing Ming and Jookya just 1v5 people no problem. Same with Sunken... aaahh rogues were sooooo badass back then Also the horde guild SiN OMG LOL. that guild gave every single alliance person nightmares back when i played on that server lol | ||
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
On September 28 2011 15:33 MaestroSC wrote: hahahah OMG yes. I remember being like 13 and my sleep schedule involved going to bed at 6 in the morning, waking up at like Noon and then playing all day, but always making sure that at about 2 in the morning I would go LFG [Japanese] [ok] . Lol the trick to leveling in this game, was playing a high demand class and rolling with all JP groups. IDK why but every JP group leveled 5-10x faster for some reason they were just infinitely better, was the best. Also my fondest memories = my last 2 months of this game I did nothing but fish on the boat from Selbina hoping to see a Kraken kill everyone, or a lvl 75 to come on the boat and kill the kraken. And the Pirate event was super awsome too. The reason i quit FFXI- chances on loot drops. I once killed Leaping Lizzy 13/15 spawns in a row and didnt get the goddamn boots -_-. That and towards the end of my FFXI career is when they released the PS ports so leveling with retarded kids on their playstations who had no keyboard so they couldnt communicate made leveling HELL. and they were always terrible. So i spent my last 2 months shooting the shit with my linkshell friends, just fishing and watching the Kraken and pirates kill people lol. I was working on Lu Shangs but didnt have the patience to finish that task lol talking about this makes me miss FFXI and really irritated that the latest FF mmo was such complete and total garbage... seriously they should have taken FFXI given it better graphics, let people jump. And all would have been good. Yeah, hunting exotic monsters/boss (Notorious Monsters NM) was the biggest pain in the butt. I went 1/11 on Valkurm Emperor, 1/8 on Leaping Lizzy, 0/1 on Argus. For people who dont know, these monsters/boss spawn once every 1-4 hours sometimes with some hefty competition with a big area in which it could spawn at. It's not just put a stop-watch and wait, you had to be focused for those few hours to scan for that boss to see if he's popped up. Top off all this with around 10% drop rates on the item you wanted Till today, I still miss this game, I wish all my friends would play it. I still have visions of playing DRG/SAM getting 100TP > Penta Thrust > Meditate, Jump, High Jump > Penta Thrust. Or your good ole Thief during level 35 with Sneak Attack + Trick Attack + Viper Bite, followed by some Blizzardga. And yes, the trick to get to level 75 was to play Bard. EVERYONE loves a Bard. Like.... no joke lol. Red Mages get alot of attention too if you were good. | ||
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Sotamursu
Finland612 Posts
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ExceeD_DreaM
Canada500 Posts
couple things about grind.. There are SO many crybabies around when people play MMO that it is unbearable to read their writings, so I just stop reading them. They cry so much about grind, being ganked what not. I say BS. They don't know how to play the game then. For instance, I cannot understand anyone who complains about grind in Aion. I've played to max level, and I got to it by questing alone. Aion was LOADS of fun pvping and rifting to kill asmos! It was fun searching their kisks and destroying them too. Aion Quests WERE partially grinds but not bad compared to the likes of.... Lineage 2. Oh yes this is the ULTIMATE grind game. I've heard stories that FF online (dunno which version) is a major grind fest too, but I played L2 for a good 5-6 years and nothing comes close to being a grind fest as this. Basically, every important quest is like kill 700 mobs and then go off kill 500 mobs or loot 10 marks that never drop etc etc. L2's upside is the incredible siege system and pvp. IMO the BEST pvp MMO although its all button mashing, because of the system. L2 has this awesome thing called Olympiad, and it dpeends on if u play retail or private server, but basically, it's a weekly/monthly tournament where you fight others 1 on 1 and the player with highest point per class becomes hero. It is very skill dependant, as I have wrecked the scene with my evas templar with worse gear than other competing evas templars many times. The FIRST mmo i played was Lineage 1. This was when Lineage 1 was the absolutely beautiful, amazing, exciting game with awesome community and everything about it was magical. It is pretty much before bunch of patches were made and biggest boss was a death knight and going off to the mainland was an exciting adventure. The game went to hell after that being an even worse grind fest than lineage 2 (typical korean mmo) but Vanilla Lineage was the best, far beyond what WoW was. It also had incredible sound track (so did L2, lineage 2 still has the best music.. imo) What I'm playing now, is LOTRO. this is hands down the best mmo ive played so far in my +12 yrs of mmo experience. Great quest line, very friendly atmosphere, fun pve, grinds are not that boring, and if you love LOTR, then you will love this game just by going to places. I only recently started and purchased preorder for Isengard, which started 2 days ago. I can't wait to hit lvl 65 and head out to Isengard region. LOTRO is free to play now, but it is worth investing money into it. F2P players can also play PvMP, where you play as orc or uruk to fight against men. they will keep updating, next being Rohan region and then Gondor, then hopefully Mordor. Will take a while, but they don't make you wait that long imo. There is lots to do in this game and I really recommend it to people who are thinking about starting up a new MMO as it is easy and fun! I was really considering what to play, between Lotro, vanguard, rift and etc. Lotro being f2p and getting very good review (with upcoming new content) while rift getting worse and worse reviews with WoW clone tag, i decided to go woth lotro. Also, now that I am working full time as an intern, i have less time to play, so for casual mmo gamers who wants good experience, i rec lotro. We can definitely make a kinship in lotro, I play on Brandywyne Verdict: Best MMO to play right now : LOTRO Best Quest : LOTRO hands down Best Upcoming MMO: Toss up between Blade and Soul & Guild wars 2 Best MMO Graphics : Aion Best Soundtrack : Lineage 2 Best PvP : L2 or Aion MMO I hate the most : WoW (was boring..) MMO I want to try : TERA Best community : LOTRO Easiest MMO and low learning curve : LOTRO | ||
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MudkipSEA`
Singapore67 Posts
Good times good times. Who remembers the time when you butterfly wing back to prontera, hear the prontera theme, and cycle though venders on the side of the roads. Oh man. | ||
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HardMacro
Canada361 Posts
With that said, @ OP: if you were constantly having problems with guilds after guilds, eliciting seemingly unreasonable behavior from others (it's very rare for someone to abhor someone else so much over the internet to lie to you and bar you from their guild, when you've done "nothing wrong"), while at the same time portraying yourself as this victim of senseless online hate with zero faults, then I would suggest that you look into your own behavior/mannerism when you play MMOs, and to a lesser extent, in life. Just a thought and good luck. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On September 29 2011 01:41 HardMacro wrote: A bit off topic, but one of the more important realizations that I've had recently is that to grow as a person, one needs to always look for their own faults during times of conflict and not always look for an excuse for whatever happens. With that said, @ OP: if you were constantly having problems with guilds after guilds, eliciting seemingly unreasonable behavior from others (it's very rare for someone to abhor someone else so much over the internet to lie to you and bar you from their guild, when you've done "nothing wrong"), while at the same time portraying yourself as this victim of senseless online hate with zero faults, then I would suggest that you look into your own behavior/mannerism when you play MMOs, and to a lesser extent, in life. Just a thought and good luck. While this is true, sometimes immature people are just immature people. For example: One of my raid leaders on WoW wouldn't take this one girl on our raids because she wanted to be the only girl in raid. (attention whore much?)...she always said she just didnt want a second warlock in our 10man, yet we always took this one orc warlock (who was super awesome, one of my WoW best friends :p) Another example: Guild leader kicked a member because his voice was a little nasally...not like a 13 year old high pitched squeaky voice...just a little nasally. No one really cared but the GL just didn't care to hear it on raid night so he just gkicked him and banned him from TS randomly lol. Also someone mentioned LOTRO - if you're a Lord of the Rings fan, it's a pretty awesome MMO, but even if you're not it's great. They stick to the book really well, even better than the movies did (Tom Bombadil <333) ... I spent a lot of time playing LOTRO with my then girlfriend because we got tired of playing WoW...it ended up being a lot of fun, playing through the LOTR storyline but in MMO form. I'm debating buying a Korean TERA account because the people who are releasing it for US are - and direct quoting this - "Westernizing the game" which most likely means "ruining the whole game" ... Macabre a long time ago gave me some good impressions of the game and I was pretty excited to try it out... though like I said, I've liked playing in MMO communities less and less so I don't even know if I'll give it a shot. The only reason I like EVE Online is because you can solo play whenever you want, and it doesn't detriment the game at all...need more MMOs like that. (D3 :D) | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On September 29 2011 01:41 HardMacro wrote: A bit off topic, but one of the more important realizations that I've had recently is that to grow as a person, one needs to always look for their own faults during times of conflict and not always look for an excuse for whatever happens. With that said, @ OP: if you were constantly having problems with guilds after guilds, eliciting seemingly unreasonable behavior from others (it's very rare for someone to abhor someone else so much over the internet to lie to you and bar you from their guild, when you've done "nothing wrong"), while at the same time portraying yourself as this victim of senseless online hate with zero faults, then I would suggest that you look into your own behavior/mannerism when you play MMOs, and to a lesser extent, in life. Just a thought and good luck. Whoa, whoa. I find this comment kinda insulting to be honest, but probably understandable seeing as I only briefly touched over the story where I actually got guild kicked. In fact, I didn't tell the full story of that guild, which went more like this. I didn't really do anything wrong in that guild, except maybe cause a slight commotion over a troll who had verbally tried to rip me apart (with offensive language, dodging ignorelists by spamming "FUCK YOU" at me on several alts), all because I asked for a portal to Stonard and he believed they didn't exist. I'll admit, I'm no Liquid'Sheth, and I am not always mannered and polite but was what I did wrong (This was the only thing that actually stood out as far as my attitude went) justification to do this after my kick:
I didn't think so either... I'm suspicious that it was at least partially them who got me blacklisted from the major guilds on my old realm because many of their ex members got to that level and began to go into higher-up guilds, plus I got insults and lies directed about me all over the place. I also moved server only partially because of that. The other reason was that I was getting bored and frustrated with the Hunter class. I knew after the time when I quit over finding 4 nights of raid leadership and college too hard to keep up with that I wouldn't be able to commit to a huge raid schedule anyway. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On September 29 2011 08:01 Jibba wrote: You talk about them as if they had an irrational hatred of you and that's rarely ever the case. You probably did something and you didn't pick up on it, which would explain why it happened in other guilds too. If hypothetically that were the case then I don't know what it is, and nobody has explained what it is. | ||
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