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Opiate addiction. It's some real shit. I can confidently resist the urge to dabble with other types of drugs if I just put my mind to it. Marijuana, benzos, amphetamines, and pretty much every kind of drug you can possibly think of. But put some oxycodone (or any other opiate, probably even codeine) tablets in front of me and my sober streak is long gone. Doesn't matter how much I think I can resist, the real test is when the little blues are sitting in front of me.
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Her lovely little blue eyes
My first experience with opiates was 15mg of hydrocodone, 3 standard vicodin tablets. I wasn't sure if I felt it or not. All the other drugs I've tried were very noticeable. Amphetamines, for example, simply force euphoria on you. It's very 'in your face' and you know you're chasing the high. Opiates, however, are very light and gentle; once you notice it's starting to become a problem, it's probably too late. So the first few tries with hydrocodone, I just felt this slight and subtle background of contentment. Then, after a while, you start to notice these subtle effects more and more, and generally "know" how to feel the effects of opiates and there is nothing better in the world. I was definitely not addicted at this point, I couldn't have cared less if I didn't have opiates. I was a pothead back then so I was just satisfied with weed, and occasionally use other recreational drugs once every week or so.
What really got me to change from an occasional user to a addict was tramadol during my senior year at high school. Now most hardcore opiate users will say tramadol isn't shit, but at the time I had no tolerance and 150mg of tramadol (3 standard doses) had me nodding. I found a bottle of tramadol at my friend's house and he was very generous with it. He gave me a bunch of pills. Within a week I popped them all and went back to him for more. Near the end of high school, I popped tramadol as soon as I woke up, took some at school, and took more when I got home. That's when I started getting "hooked" and didn't go a day without them. I think I was popping about 7-14 a day, and 8 a day was supposedly the limit or you'd have seizure. I didn't give a fuck. I never had one and it felt fantastic, so why stop? Eventually before the end of my senior year, my friend ran out of tramadol and I couldn't get more. Went through some minor withdrawals and that was what I thought was the end of my tramadol habit.
The summer after high school, I found a regular connect for hydrocodone. At the time I didn't think it was a big deal, but I started taking 50mg-100mg whenever I had a chance. I couldn't even take the standard vicodin anymore (at the time I didn't care about cwe's). There was too much apap (tylenol) in them and I'd have to take about 20 of them to reach my target high, so I resorted to Norco (more hydrocodone, less tyleonl), which of course, lead me further down the spiral. I still didn't have a "habit". I could only afford it about once or twice a week. But at this time I was fucking with benzos every day and amphetamines couple times a week... I was pretty much too fucked up all the time to really enjoy the opiates. That summer was a mess. I eventually went off to college, hoping to have a fresh start.
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Wow, interesting story, I'm eager to see the next part. :p
I've never really dabbled with drugs, but I've had a few friends who have, and it wasn't great. Luckily none of them got hurt, and a couple were very lucky that they didn't end up getting arrested and charged with something, or screwed up their life.
Will check for the next part, good read.
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Med student here, fascinating story you got there mate
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I've never done drugs so this is a very ignorant question, but why not just do pot or something? Do opiates give you a better high? With addiction I know the decision of which to do is kind of forced on you, but how is the choice made at first because pot seems like it's way easier to get.
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Get off them, trust. I started the same as you, except I was straight onto Oxy Contin. Also I had a more readily supply My father had a broken back and was receiving Morphine, Hydrcodone, Ambien, Oxy Contin (80mg), Oxy Codone, Tizazidyne (Bone Relaxer), Fentanyl Lolipops (Candy Morphine), and Fentanyl Body Patches.
Honestly I didn't think I could quit till one day me and my friend where doing some oxy and he began to cough blood... Head to the doctors find out he has a stomach ulcer, his throat was pretty much charred from acid reflex, and his liver was dying.. Imagine finding all that out at a senior in high school... Scared the fuck out of me. Oh we also had a dealer pull a shotgun on him while he was buying, and rob him....
I don't know how long you've been on it but, you should really quit, the withdrawals are god awful but pay off in the long run.
On September 13 2011 09:55 redoxx wrote:
I've never done drugs so this is a very ignorant question, but why not just do pot or something? Do opiates give you a better high? With addiction I know the decision of which to do is kind of forced on you, but how is the choice made at first because pot seems like it's way easier to get.
For some it gives a body high that you can't really get form other drugs. Imagine your entire body just went numb or something similar. Like when yo you go on a roller coaster and when you go over he loop you can feel "butterflies" in your stomach or w/e, like that but 1000x better.
I don't know about the OP but I made the choice cause it was readily available to me and I hated to smoke things (although I did try to smoke an oxy once... tasted like burning tires...)
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On September 13 2011 09:55 redoxx wrote:
I've never done drugs so this is a very ignorant question, but why not just do pot or something? Do opiates give you a better high? With addiction I know the decision of which to do is kind of forced on you, but how is the choice made at first because pot seems like it's way easier to get.
Initially I only smoked weed, starting my sophomore year. I didn't even touch alcohol that often. At first I always told myself, "I'll only smoke weed and never touch any other drugs" but you'll be surprised to know how many junkies in their past thought the same exact thing.
When it comes to drugs, it's really personal preference. Some will like amphetamines more than opiates, vice versa. But personally, opiates really hit the spot for me and give me a high better than any other drug. I'm sure others will agree. Some prefer benzos and I really can't understand how or why, but different strokes for different folks.
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lol 'why not just do pot' ? x ) well opiates and marijuana are two vastly different drugs. The addictive qualities of heroin, oxycontin, morphine, and all the different types of synthetic opiates (pills) are ranked amongst the strongest of all abused substances. Though it is different for each person, marijuana addiction is often a deep-rooted habit, that can be hard to break over time for sure, but you're not going to be actually withdrawing from that like you would be from opiates. when you're addicted to opiates your body chemistry is used to it and craves it intensely. You need it to sleep, eat, and make it through the day in general. ask the med student above lol ^ he can explain it
I should add -- the first week of cold turkey, and even the month after will be rough and if you just keep your connections close (keep your phone numbers etc.) but if you really want to stop you delete that shit and never call again. smoke reefer at the end of the day. hell maybe have a drink. but the true opiate life is not living at all.
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I think you should do what you can to get off of the drugs... If you are still on them. I've always hated drugs, though. Especially needles. Fucking hate those fuckers, poking me and shit. Fuck needles....
On September 13 2011 09:54 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Med student here, fascinating story you got there mate
lol
Off topic, the only drug I think is cool is/are Horse Tranquilizers. Just because of the name.
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Well mushrooms are safer if im not mistaken, and aren't really addictive, i used to take them every 2 months for a weekend, havent touched em in years, and you get a great body buzz off of it, thats my suggestion!
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On September 13 2011 10:13 rebuffering wrote:
Well mushrooms are safer if im not mistaken, and aren't really addictive, i used to take them every 2 months for a weekend, havent touched em in years, and you get a great body buzz off of it, thats my suggestion!
Shrooms are hallucinogens, not quite the same xD
Unless your rocking psych pills...
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Yeah I can relate a little bit to what you're talking about. I grew up in an area where pot was a very accepted thing and where it was so incredibly easy to get your hands on that almost everyone had tried it at a young age. So naturally I smoked fairly regularly from about 7th grade until about my junior year in high school.
For me there was a kind of natural progression into opiate based things such as hydrocodine and the likes.
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As I'm writing this I almost expected to be some sort of help or have some suggestion for you that could be of some use.
But now as I think about it I realize the reason that I don't do them at the moment is mostly due to the fact that I moved full time (as opposed to part time as it was before) and that the only reason I haven't done those sorts of things for a while is because I haven't had the chance.
I think when it comes down to it the last opportunity I had I took multiple valium multiple days in a row...
At the very least I understand the reasoning and lure of them.
There is certainly something very seductive about them that I have a very hard time distancing myself from...
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Opiates are a truly disgusting addiction. I watched my ex turn into a junky over a year after getting into OCs. I'm glad I got away from the shit because it's literally a living hell to wake up and the first and only thought is about where to get more of that warm empty feeling. Good luck I've quit just like many others and you can too. If you're having serious WDs look into Kratom it can help you get through the day without feeling like straight death.
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how did you get into college while being so hopped up on drugs?
edit: I guess it was near the end of high school, but still
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On September 13 2011 10:55 Roe wrote:
how did you get into college while being so hopped up on drugs?
edit: I guess it was near the end of high school, but still
I got heavily into them during my 2nd semester of my senior year so all I had to do was get by with C's. I actually almost failed two classes but somehow just got by. If I started earlier, I wouldn't have gotten in, that's for sure.
But to really answer your question, opiates generally give you motivation as long as you don't take the amount to the point where you're nodding out in front of your computer. So when I really had to get things done, I'd take enough just to feel the high and be motivated and get things done. I'd also get things done when I was on amphetamines as long I wasn't too high.
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Ugh, I've heard that opiate addiction is only second to benzo addiction when it comes to kicking it :/
I hope you've managed to kick it, or are in the process of doing so.
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Currently in my first semester of my last year of High School. I've never toyed with anything more than pot and Salvia (Salvia is legal here) and as of late I have given up smoking in general to better myself athletically.
I told myself I'd never do drugs, but I got into weed around grade 10 and was blazing pretty much day in and day out for the next 6-9 months. Around grade 11 I stopped smoking entirely to focus on getting my grades up, but after awhile I just went back to it. I found that smoking weed was more of a social thing than an addiction, and the only compulsion was to have a good time with my buddies. I stopped smoking everyday and only smoked ever 3-6 weeks on weekends and such.
I found that with pot I could smoke constantly for weeks and then suddenly quit whenever I wanted, which worked for me. Unfortunately a couple of my buddies started getting into harder shit and one of them died ODing on Coke. That was pretty much my wake-up call. I've never tried opiates or hard drugs, but from the sounds of it it's really hard to quit. The only thing I could say is to do what you can to get off them ASAP before your liver or other organs gives out.
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What? Those pills are blue? @_@
And here I thought blue pills always referred to Viagra...
Btw, what's opium addiction like? Any way to describe it to a newb with no idea what drug addiction is like?
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Not everyone gets hooked on opiates. I'm more of an uppers guy myself. But for anyone who has a predisposition to like opiates, it doesn't take a whole lot to get hooked.
Tatari, addiction is hard to describe to anyone who hasn't been addicted - its like asking a cigarette smoker why they keep smoking even though they know the consequences. I smoke because things suck when I don't smoke. I know if I can kick the addiction that won't be true, but I still keep smoking. Sure each addiction feels different (different cravings/withdrawals etc), but that's the meat of it.
Looking forward to the next part of the story. Good luck trying to cope with it/quit. My best advice is to move to someplace where you can't get ahold of any, otherwise its almost impossible to kick any addiction. Otherwise, just make sure you CWE everything, you don't want to kill your liver with the filler.
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interested in more I am a pretty regular user of many drugs but opiates are something I have stayed away from (regular use that is)for this very reason seen to many people addicted to heroin and I'm only 18, opiates are loads of fun but they scare the shit out of me.
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My mom has a chronic pain condition and is prescribed oxycodone hcl. This past summer I railed ~25 mgs one night (no previous usage) while my parents were away. Like a lot of drugs, it was difficult to really grasp the effects on a first time use but it did fuck me up. Apparently I suck at handling opiates because that dose was enough to make me vomit until I dry heaved. Then I went to bed, woke up, went to summer class and threw up my breakfast during class (in the hallway).
I insufflated oxy twice more after this at lower doses. Even 15mg railed was enough to make me vomit again until I dry heaved. I can see why this drug is addicting though because it totally puts you in a feel good zone. It relieved my anxiety so I think it would be especially addicting to anxiety sufferers like me.
I'm now at college and have no access to oxy and do not plan on getting any but just the thought of the drug gives me a longing. I don't think I'll ever do it again but that's what everyone says right?
Good luck on your road to recovery, I heard the drug Gabapentin (Neurontin) is very effective at easing opiate withdrawal if you can get some of that.
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On September 13 2011 12:55 JadeFist wrote:
My mom has a chronic pain condition and is prescribed oxycodone hcl. This past summer I railed ~25 mgs one night (no previous usage) while my parents were away. Like a lot of drugs, it was difficult to really grasp the effects on a first time use but it did fuck me up. Apparently I suck at handling opiates because that dose was enough to make me vomit until I dry heaved. Then I went to bed, woke up, went to summer class and threw up my breakfast during class (in the hallway).
I insufflated oxy twice more after this at lower doses. Even 15mg railed was enough to make me vomit again until I dry heaved. I can see why this drug is addicting though because it totally puts you in a feel good zone. It relieved my anxiety so I think it would be especially addicting to anxiety sufferers like me.
I'm now at college and have no access to oxy and do not plan on getting any but just the thought of the drug gives me a longing. I don't think I'll ever do it again but that's what everyone says right?
Good luck on your road to recovery, I heard the drug Gabapentin (Neurontin) is very effective at easing opiate withdrawal if you can get some of that.
some people just get really naucious from opiates a friend of mind who is a fiend for so many kinds of drugs refuses to touch opiates as they all just make him vomit, slight nausea though is very very common especially during the comedown (at least in my experience)
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On September 13 2011 12:55 JadeFist wrote:
Good luck on your road to recovery, I heard the drug Gabapentin (Neurontin) is very effective at easing opiate withdrawal if you can get some of that.
Haha hearing that drug makes me remember, I was taking those as well gah my dad had so many pills
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gabapentin is a good time :D great with weed/alchohol though I can say nothing to its usefulness in recovering from opiates
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On September 13 2011 13:10 Phtes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 12:55 JadeFist wrote:
Good luck on your road to recovery, I heard the drug Gabapentin (Neurontin) is very effective at easing opiate withdrawal if you can get some of that. Haha hearing that drug makes me remember, I was taking those as well gah my dad had so many pills
Yeah my mom had them too that's why I knew about it. I popped a couple 800mg pills and it was pretty nice but I had no urge to repeat the experience.
She also had many different assortments of benzos none of which I took. The concept of downers doesn't really appeal to me.
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you know who they give Oxy to? People who were shot in the face. You're a fool. This is not going to end well. I tried Oxy once. I drank a beer, took a pill, vomitted, end of my opiate addiction. When I go to Thailand (one every few years) I smoke poppy tar (real opium, son not that pharmy bullshit) mixed with coconut hair in a bamboo bong prepared by a local dude with dragon tattoo extending from shoulder to shoulder on his back. That is fun but I always feel like shit the next week. Opiates are fun if you like to wallow, and feel sorry for yourself.
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On September 13 2011 13:13 snorlax wrote:
gabapentin is a good time :D great with weed/alchohol though I can say nothing to its usefulness in recovering from opiates
Heh, and now this comment alone makes me want to try it again. 
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On September 13 2011 13:19 RuthUnderwood wrote:
you know who they give Oxy to? People who were shot in the face. You're a fool. This is not going to end well. I tried Oxy once. I drank a beer, took a pill, vomitted, end of my opiate addiction. When I go to Thailand (one every few years) I smoke poppy tar (real opium, son not that pharmy bullshit) mixed with coconut hair in a bamboo bong prepared by a local dude with dragon tattoo extending from shoulder to shoulder on his back. That is fun but I always feel like shit the next week. Opiates are fun if you like to wallow, and feel sorry for yourself.
Actually Oxy is given to most commonly terminally ill people, or those with terrible stages of cancer, most gunshot victims get a form of morphine, a much weaker drug, even the IV's are morphine filled, as well as the shots. Getting Oxy in a high Dosage, and without CR is very rare. Also the pills come in concentrated forms with no added compounds... Now sit down and stop acting like your some godly badass.
Also who knows what nasty shit your poppy was cut with...
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I refuse to read the comments on the grounds that I suspect there is a lot of uninformed bullshit being posted.
Except FragKrag, who is right in saying opiates are much harder to detox from than benzos. On a scale of one to ten, vicodin is about a 3 to come clean from. Yeah, you'll have a lot of discomfort. Your digestive system will take a big hit. Plus you'll ache. Badly.
But it's not even comparable to coming off a two day heroin binge.
I'd say coming off a few weeks of habitual vicodin abuse is feels about like coming off a weekend of oxycontin.
Don't do drugs. It's okay to be curious. But it'll fucking make days, weeks and lots and LOTS of money just disappear.
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On September 13 2011 13:55 Probe1 wrote:
I refuse to read the comments on the grounds that I suspect there is a lot of uninformed bullshit being posted.
Except FragKrag, who is right in saying opiates are much harder to detox from than benzos. On a scale of one to ten, vicodin is about a 3 to come clean from. Yeah, you'll have a lot of discomfort. Your digestive system will take a big hit. Plus you'll ache. Badly.
But it's not even comparable to coming off a two day heroin binge.
I'd say coming off a few weeks of habitual vicodin abuse is feels about like coming off a weekend of oxycontin.
Don't do drugs. It's okay to be curious. But it'll fucking make days, weeks and lots and LOTS of money just disappear.
Ironic that you speak of uninformed bullshit.
First of all you don't agree with frag king. He states opiate wd is 2nd only to benzos. Secondly wd comes from weeks of daily use. Hydrocodone WDs are quite severe although oxy is straight up hell. If you're implying a hydrocodone wd is equal to a two day binge of oxy, you're severely mistaken.
The point? All opiate withdrawals are severe. Also it takes some time to get to that point. (weeks-months of daily use.)
Edit: t9 is fucking annoying.
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On September 13 2011 13:19 RuthUnderwood wrote:
you know who they give Oxy to? People who were shot in the face. You're a fool. This is not going to end well. I tried Oxy once. I drank a beer, took a pill, vomitted, end of my opiate addiction. When I go to Thailand (one every few years) I smoke poppy tar (real opium, son not that pharmy bullshit) mixed with coconut hair in a bamboo bong prepared by a local dude with dragon tattoo extending from shoulder to shoulder on his back. That is fun but I always feel like shit the next week. Opiates are fun if you like to wallow, and feel sorry for yourself.
If you tried oxy once and puked, you were never truly addicted to opiates good sir
Opiate addiction is complete fuckery, and simply puking is not an event that could break any addiction, let alone the fuckery that is opiate addiction.
OP: If you aren't currently abusing benzos, one of my friends had good success with benzos which calmed him down enough to help ameliorate opiate withdrawals.
At the same time though, be careful of the benzos as well. Benzo addiction is a different beast (I would say worse) entirely.
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On September 13 2011 13:55 Probe1 wrote:
I refuse to read the comments on the grounds that I suspect there is a lot of uninformed bullshit being posted.
Except FragKrag, who is right in saying opiates are much harder to detox from than benzos. On a scale of one to ten, vicodin is about a 3 to come clean from. Yeah, you'll have a lot of discomfort. Your digestive system will take a big hit. Plus you'll ache. Badly.
But it's not even comparable to coming off a two day heroin binge.
I'd say coming off a few weeks of habitual vicodin abuse is feels about like coming off a weekend of oxycontin.
Don't do drugs. It's okay to be curious. But it'll fucking make days, weeks and lots and LOTS of money just disappear.
wtf was this comment... most of the things being said are just people sharing stories, also "Don't do drugs. It's okay to be curious. But it'll fucking make days, weeks and lots and LOTS of money just disappear" so do most hobbies (sc2 etc)
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sc2 doesn't make lots of money disappear dude
let's not make light of addiction
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On September 13 2011 14:35 FragKrag wrote:
sc2 doesn't make lots of money disappear dude
let's not make light of addiction
His original post said starbucks. Which doesn't make days dissappear. I see his point though it pissed me off to read such an arrogant and condescending post directed towards people trying to help.
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Caffeine is the most addicting drug in the world, do I win now?...
Actually I personally don't believe in addiction. People who say they cant quit because they are addicted are just making excuses for there weak minds or no will to try.
I broke the "addiction" due to shock factor, but I was more than able to stop at any time I simply chose not to because I had no reason to at the time. In fact I had quit multiple times and only went back due to pure boredom ^^.
On the amphetamines topic, I used to get prescribe huge doses of Adheral, probably my favorite drug because it actually helped me =D
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If you don't think addiction exists you haven't been exposed to it.
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On September 13 2011 14:41 muse5187 wrote:
If you don't think addiction exists you haven't been exposed to it.
I'm fairly certain Ive been exposed to FAR more than you, but that is an argument for another time my friend. Merely stating my opinion on the subject after being exposed to said subject my entire life.
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When I broke my leg 10 years ago the doc prescribed Vicodin and it makes me nauseous. I puked in some plant on the Queen Mary during some MTG tourney lol. A few years ago when I had tonsilitis they gave me Morphine in my IV. Felt like I got punched in the stomach and I almost puked (probably would have if I actually had food in there, Tonsillitis kept me from swallowing stuff, I lost 15 lbs). They prescribed me liquid Codine, and when I was almost done with the bottle I still wanted more even though I didn't need it.
Recently I had my appendix out and I refused as much of these opiates as I could. Until after the surgery they had me on Dilaudid and then Norco. The first day I felt really loopy and almost noddin off randomly when I took them, the following days it didn't (built tolerance that fast). After a day or two when the pain was less intense I just manned through it and stopped taking the norcos. I still have a full bottle on my shelf.
This shit is not to be fucked with.
PS- Phtes watch zeitgiest 3 moving forward. A huge part of the movie is about addiction and psychology where they interview lots of professionals.
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Oh man..I will have to write a blog on this sooner than I thought..
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This post feels like being on the Shroomery.
On September 13 2011 14:43 Phtes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 14:41 muse5187 wrote:
If you don't think addiction exists you haven't been exposed to it. I'm fairly certain Ive been exposed to FAR more than you, but that is an argument for another time my friend. Merely stating my opinion on the subject after being exposed to said subject my entire life.
But it does seem delusional to say "I could to, but didn't, because I didn't wanted to."
It's the oldest excuse people make. I could've been something, really, I assure you I had the potential, but I'm not, because I didn't wanted to...
There aren't many people who will say that it is a good thing to be hardcore on opiates. So why not chose to leave them?
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On September 13 2011 20:13 Kukaracha wrote:
This post feels like being on the Shroomery.
But it does seem delusional to say "I could to, but didn't, because I didn't wanted to."
It's the oldest excuse people make. I could've been something, really, I assure you I had the potential, but I'm not, because I didn't wanted to...
There aren't many people who will say that it is a good thing to be hardcore on opiates. So why not chose to leave them?
Why not quit?
Simply because I had a readily access to it, and I was able to "handle" them better than most people. The only side effects I every really got after coming off the high was being insanely hungry. That was a fine price to pay for a day of enjoyment.
Of course I would say the biggest factor was peer pressure, my best friends did opiates with me so why stop when he is using? Conformity Rules, as they say.
I don't at all consider it a good thing that I was once an opiate user, it is just a part of my history and I have accepted that, "I once was a opiate user, I was able to stop at any time and proved myself capable of such a feet.' Now whenever I meet people and they ask me, "Did you ever use drugs?" I will give them an honest answer, and then explain to them why they should not use them.
Maybe I should write a blog about this.
However the fact remains that there are professionals on both sides of the argument, I believe it's a choice, I've experienced the choice and I made my choice.
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On September 13 2011 20:53 Phtes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 20:13 Kukaracha wrote:
This post feels like being on the Shroomery.
But it does seem delusional to say "I could to, but didn't, because I didn't wanted to."
It's the oldest excuse people make. I could've been something, really, I assure you I had the potential, but I'm not, because I didn't wanted to...
There aren't many people who will say that it is a good thing to be hardcore on opiates. So why not chose to leave them? Why not quit? Simply because I had a readily access to it, and I was able to "handle" them better than most people. The only side effects I every really got after coming off the high was being insanely hungry. That was a fine price to pay for a day of enjoyment. Of course I would say the biggest factor was peer pressure, my best friends did opiates with me so why stop when he is using? Conformity Rules, as they say. I don't at all consider it a good thing that I was once an opiate user, it is just a part of my history and I have accepted that, "I once was a opiate user, I was able to stop at any time and proved myself capable of such a feet.' Now whenever I meet people and they ask me, "Did you ever use drugs?" I will give them an honest answer, and then explain to them why they should not use them. Maybe I should write a blog about this. However the fact remains that there are professionals on both sides of the argument, I believe it's a choice, I've experienced the choice and I made my choice.
To be fair, those are all factors that addicted people will use to claim that they are not addicted. Addiction normally only ends when factors align for it to be relatively easier to stop, or there is a strong motivation. Not saying you are lying about being able to quit any time, its just that I've seen that type of logic before, and normally its a form of denial.
It is a choice, the choice to start is the easy one. The choice to quit is the more difficult one, with addiction as well as the factors you mentioned of easy access and peer pressure. Why do you think quitting smoking is so difficult, when comparitively it is an easy physical addiction to break?
In any event, lets just leave it at opiate addiction from sustained use is a really tough habit to break (as long as you have continued access), and wait for OP to finish his story, or for others to share theirs.
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