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I suggest you pick on how you like the mirror match-ups. I personally like pvp the most of the mirrors, you might prefer tvt or zvz. I don't know.
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Protoss if you want to actually win games. And btw you will never get used to the interface. It fights you every step of the way
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I liked Terran best, but if you want to win games quickly after starting and with minimal effort pick Protoss. It only evens out around A-/A.
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TLADT24920 Posts
Thanks, but, why is Protoss easier to win with? I haven't been given any answers to that question so far XD hmm, just realized that Sept 1 is the reset, so, maybe I should try the different races and then decide when the reset happens
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When I started playing BW I picked zerg, but only because I used 1 hatch per hotkey in SC2, and adjusting would be easier than from my terran/protoss setups. If you're going to learn the BW mechanics anyway, then I would play a bit with each race, and see what you like best.
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TLADT24920 Posts
kk, thanks for commenting
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On August 20 2011 06:48 BigFan wrote:Thanks, but, why is Protoss easier to win with? I haven't been given any answers to that question so far XD hmm, just realized that Sept 1 is the reset, so, maybe I should try the different races and then decide when the reset happens  Protoss is easier at the lower levels because the units require less micro to be cost efficient.
There is a random option in bw, but unless you can host you'll probably have a hard time finding a game without being banned.
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On August 20 2011 06:48 BigFan wrote:Thanks, but, why is Protoss easier to win with? I haven't been given any answers to that question so far XD hmm, just realized that Sept 1 is the reset, so, maybe I should try the different races and then decide when the reset happens 
just like in starcraft 2, at a lower level protoss outperforms the other races because of the relatively low amount of micro its units require
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United Kingdom1667 Posts
Try to go on what playstyle appeals to you most, not on which you think will be easiest. The difficulty curve really does even out between all the races. Watch VODs and find something to try with a race which you think will be fun.
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On August 20 2011 07:01 pyaar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2011 06:48 BigFan wrote:Thanks, but, why is Protoss easier to win with? I haven't been given any answers to that question so far XD hmm, just realized that Sept 1 is the reset, so, maybe I should try the different races and then decide when the reset happens  just like in starcraft 2, at a lower level protoss outperforms the other races because of the relatively low amount of micro its units require
I really dont think this is comparable. There is a huge difference in the difficulty of mnm micro vs lurks in BW and kiting shit with marauders in sc2
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massing hydras is just somehow fun i play zerg because i end up saving up with the limited larvae off 1 hatch/base, so i can expand much more often than i usually would
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Terran is the way to go if you don't mind about difficult. I'd play Terran but because of mechanics and and such, I only play SC2BW and SC2 now
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TLADT24920 Posts
Ya, I remember mass hydras was a blast against the AI XD especially with the speed upgrades, such beast units! hmm, I don't mind difficulty actually, I might go Terran but checking out Z/P atm. Thanks for the comments 
BTW, curious, how are some people shift clicking? I guess that can only be done with protoss since the worker doesn't build or morph into the structure?
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You can shift click scvs as well.
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TLADT24920 Posts
of course but I meant make a worker build something and then get back to mining. Thanks for the comment
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Ya thats what I meant as well. You tell the scv to build the structure then shift click the minerals and it will go back to mining after its done.
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TLADT24920 Posts
hmm, kk, maybe I just clicked it after it started then, cool. Thanks, nice to know that some things are still the same
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On August 20 2011 06:45 Piy wrote: I liked Terran best, but if you want to win games quickly after starting and with minimal effort pick Protoss. It only evens out around A-/A.
Nono, PvZ in the C ranks was tough as shit.
When everyone has decent macro, PvZ is a nightmare without the required multitasking, awareness and game sense at the C ranks.
I hated PvP so I did PvT ZvP and PvZ, and ironically when I was C/C+ most of my wins were against protosses in ZvPs. There is truth to 5sh6s7sh8sh9sh1a2a3a4a, at least in the C ranks.
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protoss if you want to win terran if you want to retain your pride
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TLADT24920 Posts
^^haha, retain my pride, huh? hmm, maybe I should, maybe I should :p
I just watched Sayle win a PvsZ, looked pretty tough but the constant denial of expos and cannoning up his whole base helped XD That and storms, maelstorms, etc.... are such awesome spells as well. Thanks for the comments
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You will love reavers until they suddenly go to red due to surprise hydras, you pick it up with your only shuttle that also contains 2 HTs, then scourge come in and snipe it.
And then you will rage.
But playing BeSt-style PvT is quite refreshing. Nothing like pure zeal/goon/arbs into wreck everything in my way with 40 gateways' worth of units.
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TLADT24920 Posts
ouch, that sounds bad XD I dunno if I can rage though, I'm expecting to lose a lot and I mean a lot because I've gotten used to SCII easier mechanics. With that said, I look forward to dropping an opponent or two with reavers and watch them squirm as they try to get their workers out
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TLADT24920 Posts
On August 20 2011 08:22 fabiano wrote:Only Bisu can win PvZs, thats my tip. + Show Spoiler + Why is that? 
Hearing so many mixed signals. Some saying Terran is hardest to play and OP, now Z
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Depends on who you want to win against.Usually Z>P>T>Z at lower levels.
PvP seems fun, and there you can't just 1a2a3a, because the other guy has the same "easy" race. But PvZ midgame isn't that much fun for the toss (my view as a Z player, mass hydras ftw)
ZvZ is a nightmare. Zerg may be easier for very low beginners, but I tell you, later you will rage hard against these + Show Spoiler +terran faggots who think they can stim and a-move in to my sunken line while they send the rest of their marines, which are completely free btw, to kill my hard earned third. jk jk, I love you terran players.
Can't say much for terran, except that their units cost no money. Just some ranting from a D player, take it with a grain of salt.
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Lemme break this down.
If you want to play brood war for some fun as an alternative to sc2, choose Protoss. If you want the full brood war effect (frustration, depression, absolute hate for all things protoss) play terran. Zerg is kind of middle of the road. Pretty straight forward through D ranks once you get down a build. Then you hit a couple of terrans that start forcing you to multitask a little and you'll feel the pain.
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On August 20 2011 06:39 kNyTTyM wrote: Protoss if you want to actually win games. And btw you will never get used to the interface. It fights you every step of the way
This. If you want to have fun, pick the race you like the most, but if having fun is very proportional to the amount of games that you win, pick Protoss.
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terran cuz of Boxer.
thats what I did.
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TLADT24920 Posts
Thanks for the comments and for that nice 1/5 rating XD So, I just played 2 games against another Z/P player. Lost the first to lings and messed up my rax placement leaving spaces and unable to take an exp XD Second game went a bit later, grabbed my exp, some upgrades and a third, etc.... only issue I have is how do you guys use your limited control groups? In SCII, since, you can put as many structures as you want, I would just group my structures into: 1 cc, 2 rax, 3 fac, 4 starport, etc... but I can't in this case, so, do you guys recommend only putting cc's and fac/starport into the control groups and manually making units from rax? I don't believe Z has this issue due to the hatchery mechanism, but, I would think P has it
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On August 20 2011 09:20 BigFan wrote:Thanks for the comments and for that nice 1/5 rating XD So, I just played 2 games against another Z/P player. Lost the first to lings and messed up my rax placement leaving spaces and unable to take an exp XD Second game went a bit later, grabbed my exp, some upgrades and a third, etc.... only issue I have is how do you guys use your limited control groups? In SCII, since, you can put as many structures as you want, I would just group my structures into: 1 cc, 2 rax, 3 fac, 4 starport, etc... but I can't in this case, so, do you guys recommend only putting cc's and fac/starport into the control groups and manually making units from rax? I don't believe Z has this issue due to the hatchery mechanism, but, I would think P has it 
Function keys help. They capture locations (F1 to F3). Usually, you bind them to your main and nat nexus/hatch/cc area early game, then switch them to your production buildings mid-late game if protoss/terran.
When I play protoss, i use 5-9 for structures and 1-4 for units. If I have more units, I don't hotkey most of them anymore, just click and move/attack and use the hotkeys for the ones requiring quite a bit of micro.
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Croatia9487 Posts
Take 3 pieces of paper, write on each P, T or Z. Throw the pieces of paper into a hat (if you don't own a hat, find a suitable replacement), close your eyes, look away, and put your right hand into the hat (left works too, but right is better imo). After fondling with papers for a bit, pick one out of the hat and see what's written on it. Now play 100 hundred games with that race. After you finish, repeat the process but now put only the two remaining races into the hat. And at the end play 100 games with last race and then decide what suits you best based on your wins/losses ratio, how much fun you had with each race and just on general feeling you had with each race.
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On August 20 2011 09:35 2Pacalypse- wrote: Take 3 pieces of paper, write on each P, T or Z. Throw the pieces of paper into a hat (if you don't own a hat, find a suitable replacement), close your eyes, look away, and put your right hand into the hat (left works too, but right is better imo). After fondling with papers for a bit, pick one out of the hat and see what's written on it. Now play 100 hundred games with that race. After you finish, repeat the process but now put only the two remaining races into the hat. And at the end play 100 games with last race and then decide what suits you best based on your wins/losses ratio, how much fun you had with each race and just on general feeling you had with each race.
This is def the best advice. Most of this thread is just imbalance whine. It's better just to play and do the one you like.
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Unless you have someone to help you and analyze your replays start with ptoss. After you get some basic mechanics down you can switch if you want to. Be ready to lose... a lot.
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If you can keep your APM medium(Above 130 or so) with protoss, try out zerg. If you can keep your APM high (above 260 or so) with zerg, try out terran . Thats how my mind figured it out anyways. Note: Results may vary XD
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On August 20 2011 11:10 3FFA wrote:If you can keep your APM medium(Above 130 or so) with protoss, try out zerg. If you can keep your APM high (above 260 or so) with zerg, try out terran  . Thats how my mind figured it out anyways. Note: Results may vary XD Ya let your spam decide your race.
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On August 20 2011 11:11 muse5187 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2011 11:10 3FFA wrote:If you can keep your APM medium(Above 130 or so) with protoss, try out zerg. If you can keep your APM high (above 260 or so) with zerg, try out terran  . Thats how my mind figured it out anyways. Note: Results may vary XD Ya let your spam decide your race.  Woops.... that came out wrong xD. I meant if you can have those APMs you can play those races pretty effectively and just need practice to get pretty good. Note: I love protoss ^^
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On August 20 2011 09:05 kNyTTyM wrote: Lemme break this down.
If you want to play brood war for some fun as an alternative to sc2, choose Protoss. If you want the full brood war effect (frustration, depression, absolute hate for all things protoss) play terran. Zerg is kind of middle of the road. Pretty straight forward through D ranks once you get down a build. Then you hit a couple of terrans that start forcing you to multitask a little and you'll feel the pain. Boys take the easy route. Real men face the challenge. Play Terran
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TLADT24920 Posts
haha, ya, I kinda decided on playing Terran for now. I want to get the full BW effect that I partly got when I used to play a long time back
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GL dude. I played terran as well and you feel so good when you trounce those scummy protoss players. Also I highly advise against python for tvp purposes. It basically forces a non standard style because the 3rd gas is difficult to secure. My suggestion would be fighting spirit.
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TLADT24920 Posts
Thanks for the GL wishes. It was the only game I could find but the map was actually fighting spirit v1.3 so it wasn't all that bad
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