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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 21:34:18
August 19 2011 21:33 GMT
#1
Anyone who has read my intro would know that I've played BW before, but, mostly team games and against AI, etc.... so it wasn't competitive at all. Having played SCII now and have a better idea of gameplay, I decided that this might be the right time to go back to BW and try some 1vs1 on iCCup just to see where I rank. Watching some of the BW streams right here on TL, I have an idea of what some of the strats that I'll be going up against and in terms of "counters" and such but I still plan to experiment a bit.

The only issue is, I'm having a hard time deciding on a race. I don't believe there is a random race so it makes things that much harder I would pick Terran since I'm currently playing Terran in SCII and because I just love tanks and in general just the MFM ball but then I also love reavers, dragoons and hts for Protoss. Let's also not forget my love for the lurkers and just Zerg units in general especially the hydra. So, what do you guys think? I've read that Protoss is easier to play and win on the lower levels of iCCup but I don't care much about that. I'm expecting to lose a lot as I get used to hotkeys again and get used to the general interface and what I can/can't do in comparison to SCII so fire away!

Edit: oops, forgot there is random but don't wanna go for that when I still have 3 different races with totally different hotkeys to learn

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Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11917 Posts
August 19 2011 21:37 GMT
#2
I suggest you pick on how you like the mirror match-ups. I personally like pvp the most of the mirrors, you might prefer tvt or zvz. I don't know.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
August 19 2011 21:39 GMT
#3
Protoss if you want to actually win games. And btw you will never get used to the interface. It fights you every step of the way
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 21:42:24
August 19 2011 21:40 GMT
#4
Thanks for the comments so far.

^^hehe, I don't actually mind the interface since I've played BW before. Call me crazy but fighting the interface is part of the fun? Also, how come Protoss is considered more easy to win with, storms? Archons? Reavers? There must be a reason

@Yurie Good point, forgot to consider that. I don't think I'll mind mirrors much in BW as much as SCII just because of the different compositions that are possible in each matchups imo.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
August 19 2011 21:45 GMT
#5
I liked Terran best, but if you want to win games quickly after starting and with minimal effort pick Protoss. It only evens out around A-/A.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 19 2011 21:48 GMT
#6
Thanks, but, why is Protoss easier to win with? I haven't been given any answers to that question so far XD hmm, just realized that Sept 1 is the reset, so, maybe I should try the different races and then decide when the reset happens
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
August 19 2011 21:51 GMT
#7
When I started playing BW I picked zerg, but only because I used 1 hatch per hotkey in SC2, and adjusting would be easier than from my terran/protoss setups. If you're going to learn the BW mechanics anyway, then I would play a bit with each race, and see what you like best.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 21:53:39
August 19 2011 21:52 GMT
#8
kk, thanks for commenting
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
August 19 2011 21:58 GMT
#9
On August 20 2011 06:48 BigFan wrote:
Thanks, but, why is Protoss easier to win with? I haven't been given any answers to that question so far XD hmm, just realized that Sept 1 is the reset, so, maybe I should try the different races and then decide when the reset happens

Protoss is easier at the lower levels because the units require less micro to be cost efficient.

There is a random option in bw, but unless you can host you'll probably have a hard time finding a game without being banned.
pyaar
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
August 19 2011 22:01 GMT
#10
On August 20 2011 06:48 BigFan wrote:
Thanks, but, why is Protoss easier to win with? I haven't been given any answers to that question so far XD hmm, just realized that Sept 1 is the reset, so, maybe I should try the different races and then decide when the reset happens


just like in starcraft 2, at a lower level protoss outperforms the other races because of the relatively low amount of micro its units require
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1696 Posts
August 19 2011 22:06 GMT
#11
Try to go on what playstyle appeals to you most, not on which you think will be easiest. The difficulty curve really does even out between all the races. Watch VODs and find something to try with a race which you think will be fun.
EleGant[AoV]
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
August 19 2011 22:20 GMT
#12
On August 20 2011 07:01 pyaar wrote:
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On August 20 2011 06:48 BigFan wrote:
Thanks, but, why is Protoss easier to win with? I haven't been given any answers to that question so far XD hmm, just realized that Sept 1 is the reset, so, maybe I should try the different races and then decide when the reset happens


just like in starcraft 2, at a lower level protoss outperforms the other races because of the relatively low amount of micro its units require


I really dont think this is comparable. There is a huge difference in the difficulty of mnm micro vs lurks in BW and kiting shit with marauders in sc2
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 19 2011 22:23 GMT
#13
Thanks for the comments, the Protoss ones make sense
Just played a quick custom against AI, got used to some hotkeys and such, so, I'm a bit more familiar now and realized that you actually have control groups, just that you can't have more than one structure. Makes sense now how those players were quickly jumping to their army and back to base, etc....
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
August 19 2011 22:25 GMT
#14
massing hydras is just somehow fun
i play zerg because i end up saving up with the limited larvae off 1 hatch/base, so i can expand much more often than i usually would
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
August 19 2011 22:25 GMT
#15
Terran is the way to go if you don't mind about difficult.
I'd play Terran but because of mechanics and and such, I only play SC2BW and SC2 now
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 19 2011 22:30 GMT
#16
Ya, I remember mass hydras was a blast against the AI XD especially with the speed upgrades, such beast units! hmm, I don't mind difficulty actually, I might go Terran but checking out Z/P atm. Thanks for the comments

BTW, curious, how are some people shift clicking? I guess that can only be done with protoss since the worker doesn't build or morph into the structure?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
August 19 2011 22:37 GMT
#17
You can shift click scvs as well.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 19 2011 22:38 GMT
#18
of course but I meant make a worker build something and then get back to mining. Thanks for the comment
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
August 19 2011 22:40 GMT
#19
Ya thats what I meant as well. You tell the scv to build the structure then shift click the minerals and it will go back to mining after its done.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#20
hmm, kk, maybe I just clicked it after it started then, cool. Thanks, nice to know that some things are still the same
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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