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How do u "sell" sc2?

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sebsejr
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
213 Posts
August 05 2011 11:16 GMT
#1
Okay so i hear alot people talking about how they got all their friends playing the game, and i really really would love if some of my friends would pick up the game.
My problem is, that my friends are not really that much of the "gamer-type", and they havent seemed too interested when i've been trying to "sell" the game to them.

I got one of my friends to install the game, and play a bit og single player through my account, but he quickly lost interest
I think the problem could be, that i don't know how to make the game sound interesting. I love the game, but i find it hard to express what it is i love about this game to my friends. I find it hard to describe this community, cus they can not really relate to and eSports community at all, seeing as they have never really played competetive games. (maybe some FIFA, but only against each other etc).

So my question is to you, TL, how do i/u "sell" the game to friends and others?

/thanksthanksthanks

kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
August 05 2011 11:18 GMT
#2
Why don't you show them some Day[9], especially Daily #100, if that doesn't get them I'm not sure what will :/
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
August 05 2011 11:20 GMT
#3
If they don't like to be competetive, then they don't like it. You can't "force" them to like the game.

If someone tries to explain to me "Dude DotA is so awesom", yea, that might be, but I will never like it. I wouldn't like if he tried to force me into this.
However, if you know that they like it but they are just not convinced that sc2 is actually what they are looking for, jus explain it a bit more and show them how you play.

And sometimes you won't get them into the game but get them into watching it. Suggest them some good casters!
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#4
On August 05 2011 20:18 kollin wrote:
Why don't you show them some Day[9], especially Daily #100, if that doesn't get them I'm not sure what will :/

Thats good but I wouldn't recommend it for someone with 0 knowledge its far too long to watch and people will bore, thats better for someone that just got into SC.

I recommend giving them a link to a VOD of a very exciting, high action game a live event preferably so from MLG or something so they can see the crowds and interviews after or something?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
August 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#5
I started getting my friends in through Custom games then a lot of them decided to venture into the single player / asked me for team games.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
August 05 2011 11:42 GMT
#6
let them get the starter edition blizz just released.
Semtext
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany287 Posts
August 05 2011 11:48 GMT
#7
On August 05 2011 20:42 Marcus420 wrote:
let them get the starter edition blizz just released.



this. but other than that, its hard to get someone into something if you yourself can't express the excitement. i myself am a very easily excited person, and this excitement i show over something i love is widely recognized as genuine. and i love starcraft 2, so people who know me know that i don't hype anything that wouldn't be worth their time. many of my friends still did only pick up the game now, 1 year after realese, but i don't blame them, i'm just happy that i can play with them now.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
August 05 2011 11:49 GMT
#8
As much as I enjoy sc2, I enjoy not having my friends really interested in it. Since it allows for some nice breaks of just hanging out. I really can't tell you how to get them interested, as I think a lot of the fanbase now came from players of sc1 or other Blizzard games.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 05 2011 11:51 GMT
#9
You can't.

You can try to tell them about all the cool stuff in SC2, but many people just aren't made for it. They want games to relax where they don't have to think too much about it, which is why so many people like console games but don't play games on PC.

However, if they liked the campaign but just aren't made for the multiplayer part, there are still lots of custom maps that are more fun and not too complex to learn (SOTIS, Star Battle, Marine Arena, Nexus Wars, ...) that can slowly get them into trying multiplayer.

Start with the easy, fun stuff, not the complex, hard to learn stuff.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
August 05 2011 11:53 GMT
#10
I can't even get my SC2 pals play custom 1v1 with me. T_T
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
August 05 2011 11:59 GMT
#11
If they're not the gamer type, they're most likely not going to be interested.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 13:35:29
August 05 2011 12:03 GMT
#12
You invite Chill at your place, and let him talk about the game.


Seriously, I didn't even succeed to sell the game to myself, and I did try hard. But here is a piece of advice I used for another game who shall remain nameless :

I think you have to start by making them curious. Show them a few games, explaining the basic workflow like "you start with workers, workers gather resources, you use resources to build a base and army, then you use this army to secure expansions and attack your enemy".

If your start right off the bat with build orders or even telling them about mechanics that seem fundamental for you like warpgates or larva injection, it's not gonna work.

If they are curious, they'll naturally ask "oh why did this soldier appeared there ?" and you'll be able to explain warpgates much more easily.
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Zuxo
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden395 Posts
August 05 2011 12:30 GMT
#13
You put a gun to the persons face who you are trying to sell the game to and force him/she to play Left2die. Then while they are playing say
"Better complete next level or you are !Puts on sunglasses! Left 2 Die"
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 05 2011 12:43 GMT
#14
I got my wife to at least watch Day9 with me be showing her some of the funny episodes and youtube clips like Trumpets and whatnot. This sold her that he was an entertaining guy, therefore she can watch the daily with me, still not into the game, but is slowly learning some stuff. She knows who Boxer is now at least. =)
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
nVusPip
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom260 Posts
August 05 2011 12:48 GMT
#15
You need to show them the way of the Khala and especially special tactics.

Their small minds will be blown :D lol
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
August 05 2011 12:52 GMT
#16
It's extremely difficult to convince people who are uninterested in gaming in general into StarCraft. When I actually listen to myself try to explain to people what happens in StarCraft, I nearly bore myself...
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 12:57:26
August 05 2011 12:56 GMT
#17
You can only sell the game to the person who has the 'sc gene', which means he will like it as soon as he realizes what it's about, and the only reason this person isn't already playing, is because he doesn't know about it. Kinda like yourself before you got to know what StarCraft is.

Unfortunately, I'd say like less than 10% of the people like these kinds of things, so no amount of 'selling' will yield success in the rest 90% of the population.
lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
August 05 2011 13:57 GMT
#18
ill buy how much?
Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
August 05 2011 14:34 GMT
#19
Sadly SC2 is something you buy and not sell.
forSeohyun
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
504 Posts
August 05 2011 14:59 GMT
#20
Show them some epic Husky/HD casted games on youtube, just search for "epic" (or "super epic" if you want TLO ) in their channels.
Seohyun fan
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 05 2011 15:32 GMT
#21
You need to start with the fundamentals. Micro vs macro is a great place to start, as you can relate it to history. The asymetric nature of the game is a great place to start too (the fact that it's competitive without giving each player the same start units).
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 05 2011 16:08 GMT
#22
I tried to get a few friends into it, but I'm going to agree with people who say it just isn't likely unless the person was already made up for it (in which case he would probably know about it and have the game already).

I still remember myself trying to convince a group of friends to start BW on iCCup (we did actually play BW in LAN a lot way back in high school and occasionally later as well). I told them the guys who play there are so good that you won't be able to win your first 30 games or something. And they just stared at me in the "why would we ever want that" way. -_-

If you know that somebody is really attracted by difficult challenges or already playing a competitive multiplayer game (quake live, street fighter etc), you might have a shot. Or if you're Day9 himself, you might have a shot. But otherwise I don't think it's really doable.
Sinborn
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States275 Posts
August 05 2011 16:27 GMT
#23
The best way I can sell this game is to tell people how much of a value it is overall. I'd consider looking up and playing some customs just so you can explain the variety of fun you can potentially have. Esports is a small part of the package, but I think once people find interest in 1v1, exploring esports for the sake of improvement is a natural transition.

That, and, there's always the Starter Edition! Nothing quite gauges interest like a free demo that you can tag along with.
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 16:56:07
August 05 2011 16:54 GMT
#24
i got majority of my friends to buy the game, they all enjoyed it, but they lost interest eventually.
They just arnt interested in playing to improve, and they dont quite have the same competitive attitude like myself.
So eventually i just had to face the fact that not everyone can enjoy a game like starcraft, it takes a certain person with a certain attitude to actually get full enjoyment out of playing starcraft.
If your friends arnt even that interested in gaming its going to be rough to get them interested in RTS games in particular, some people just want to play games where they can just sit down and pull their own weight instantly, like a LoL-type game or a team based fps game.
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zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
August 05 2011 17:39 GMT
#25
I've explained Starcraft to a few close friends, but most of them aren't really the type of people who would actually get into it. I'll settle for what I get; great friends who respect the game and the difficulty involved. If you want more SC IRL than theirs ways to achieve that, but they rarely involve "converting" non-believers.
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
Bargil
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States141 Posts
August 05 2011 21:16 GMT
#26
I got 3 of my friends on Starcraft 2. It's really not hard, just talk about it a lot and if they're PC gamers and love the RTS genre they're obviously going to show at least a bit of interest in it.

Show them the game! Tell them how great and exciting it is to play it! One of my friends used to play lots of Company of Heroes and other military-style RTS, then I showed him SC2. It didn't really take much for him to transition, since he already loved RTS to begin with.

If all else fails, take them to MLG. I bet you they will change their mind.
youtube.com/BargilStarcraft
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
August 05 2011 21:23 GMT
#27
show them Idra vs MMA and tell them this is how all Idra games end up looking like

if they don't believe you, show them Idra vs Huk
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Wordpad
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 21:34:22
August 05 2011 21:34 GMT
#28
Wow so weird, sebsejr... I was thinking about making a blog about the exact same topic a few days ago, but never got to it

On August 06 2011 06:23 udgnim wrote:
show them Idra vs MMA and tell them this is how all Idra games end up looking like

if they don't believe you, show them Idra vs Huk

LOL
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
August 05 2011 22:10 GMT
#29
the best way I've gotten people into sc2 was having them watch good matches in GSL, MLG, etc. seeing MC vs Thorzain in TSL3 or that game 5 of sc and Nestea were very successful. Even if they don't know much of what's happening, they still get to see all the action and feel the tension of the match. While it's much harder to get them to buy and play the game, showing such exciting games really gets them to appreciate the sc2 scene as a whole, and that's a start.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 22:48:44
August 05 2011 22:46 GMT
#30
Tell them you got a lot smarter after playing it.

If the iphone is any indication, people like games that they think make them smarter.
Focus less on fast reactions and more on decision making and what the game has taught you. Be sure to back it up with your grades if possible, then possibly show them a good discussion on TL.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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