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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 13 2011 14:52 GMT
#1
I can finally write something that will interest a small slice of the TL Community. As always, it's about me and thus if you haven't learned your lesson yet: it's long, tedious and often pretentiously a revelation to adolescents (though I like to pretend its for the more experienced and older). I finished my stupid-ass paper and still have a little bit energy in me to type something out

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-_mQ4HcGkA
*Key thing to note, Brenda Lee does the original


I walked into the supermarket today, a usual weekly thing. I go in around 9 to 10 p.m to avoid the long lines, the judgmental glances of other consumers I swoop by and the summer bag boys not caring about their job or my precious raspberries. Upon entering, there is a large billboard stating what is on sale, to consider and other interested goodies for the aimless (because whoever walks into a supermarket usually always end up buying more than they originally intended to buy). I never actually paid attention to it until now and it wasn't because of anything in particular, but rather of the language. Lately and I would even say extensively, I've been getting these punches of memories; these buried events and transitions of my life that I never could recall before.

As you all know, I'm in a city and province that is very keen on their french (Bill 101). So proud of their language, culture and people that all their signs, menus, billboards and teachings are in french. All new immigrants coming in from another country are obliged to learn French upon arriving via attending french schools or other methods (there are exceptions to this and some written areas have an english translations, but always in a smaller font. This is mostly in Montreal though, you'll never see it where I was or even more up North). I never really delved into the whole charter or even really learned about it because it was never a choice for me. Either my parents decided this, knowing the difficulties, or the province basically had their hands tied, I don't know. In any case, at the age of 12, I was enrolled to Jolivent (http://jolivent.csp.qc.ca/).

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It looks really reputable and good-looking, but 10 years ago, it was a bit of a rut and dirty place. I'm not going to lie and say I wasn't nervous on my first day, this is obvious. I also won't describe the sequence of that day because it's long, a real bother and a good dinner conversation (so if I meet any of you guys at a bar or restaurant, I'll have something to banter about. Though, as a taste; imagine taking a school bus that dropped you off at the wrong school. Your parents said they'd meet you there, but they never showed [because you were at the wrong school, but you didn't know because you never saw the school before-hand] and you couldn't ask for help, directions or where the fuck you are because you don't speak a word of French [and in this small town called Beloeil, nobody speaks very good English either]).

Onward we go. I was attending the 6th grade at the time. It's the last year of primary school here in Quebec. My teacher's english was terrible, I had one friend at the beginning who's English was equally broken (what could you expect from someone who was similarly young and learning) and my English teacher's name was Roberto who showcased and bragged about his retirement letter on the first day (something related to his retirement, I can't recall). This is where Sylvie comes in. Sylvie was someone I saw several times a week when the class was learning their french grammar. She was a Kindergarten teacher for a neighboring school and her english was, as expected, terrible, but she knew how to teach french to newbies such as myself and my brother (who was attending the fourth grade). She was much younger than most teachers around here, olive skin and her eyes were hazel. She was sweet, genuine and very patient (you had to be!). Her hair was a nutty flavor, tumbling from side to side and stopping short around her ear, dangling, frazzled from the fall. She sort of reminds me of an older Thandie Newton, minus the accent and acting career.

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Probably not the most flattering picture of Thandie Newton (who has the cutest accent ever), but same style of hair, a bit older and you have Sylvie.


I don't know if she volunteered, was the most adequate or the law required the school to send someone to help my brother and I (who were very hyperactive and troublesome boys), but she helped us several times a weeks learn about the basics of French. I'm not sure where we began, but somewhere along these times we played board games and learned every word from them. We played bingo and a whole lot of other silly stuff to basically increase our vocabulary. French verbs were the hardest and during our spring breaks and such, our father forced us to do these workbooks and our bible suddenly became: "Code vert - Petite grammaire pour le primaire" (Little Grammar for the Primary); a sort of Bescherelle for younger children.

We did this for several months and even through the next year (I had to do my 6th grade again since basically I couldn't do any of the actual classes: I didn't speak a word of french). I didn't see any point in this and used to lament about how I only had a year to learn french and that this was impossible, etc. etc. (I kept up this form of victimization until the 10th grade, especially after I had redone my 9th grade and blamed my high-school for being french and too hard for me rather than accept the fact that I was lazy and disinterested). But there was something special about these sessions with Sylvie. The school didn't have a huge budget and my actual teacher (Micheline was her name, we had to refer to the teachers by their first name, which was something unusual and new for me) didn't really put much of an effort to make me feel at home. I still think she was a bit of a french elitist: people who don't accept immigrants butchering their language or basically don't accept that people learning french for the first time will always have trouble with basic sentence structure because they write as they speak since that is their primary form of expression and understanding/approach to the language (I think this is correct, I wonder if Mani can correct me or throw in his own two cents). As I was saying; Sylvie managed to take us on field trips, just my brother and I in her little red card. We drove for a fair amount of minutes, unsure of where we going, but it was so exciting to be able to leave the school with just my brother and I going to some place new and different. I don't know if she wanted to do this out of the goodness of her heart, because it was the right thing to do or because she truly believed we would benefit from this. But she introduced us to the basic cultures of Quebec. We saw a lot of places, Apple Orchids where she bought us jam, a Cabane a Sucre and for breakfast to learn about the foods and traditions of Quebec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgbvlk5fgwI

For those who don't know what a Cabane a Sucre is


I will never forget those trips we took. Ice skating even I believe. As you will see in the video, the boiled syrup in snow with a popsicle thing is so fucking good and fun. The effect just left me astounded.

So, to boil it all down. Someone helped me learn french during my first years here and went the extra mile to teach me Quebec beyond the scope of its language. And I just wish to see her one more time to thank her, show how much I've improved my french (I'll never get the accent down, that's for sure) and just truly show my appreciation. I haven't thought of her in years, nor my school, but as I am looking at this moon hanging over the bright city of Montreal: a clash of ethnicities, languages and culture, I think back to my little town of St-Mathieu-de-Beloeil and think of Sylvie and my first years immersed in a very proud and french community. I'm glad I will never forget what she did for me, how her help basically barely got me through french high-school and into a province of nearly 8 million people. I still love English and I never got into french television (even when I stayed in Switzerland and France), but it isn't until now that I've come to feel good and appreciative of the work she's done. I regretted not fighting hard enough to be put in an English school, to take the fast and easy track of denying Quebec's heritage and just getting through my basic education, but now I think I'm glad I was forced to go this way instead, I only regret playing the victim card for so long and not seeing how easy I had it in comparison to other immigrants who probably have it either much harder or just never made it because those meant to help them, never reached out.

I now go into stores and understand nearly everything. If someone asked me to translate it word for word, I probably couldn't. Reading another language just becomes... its own language. I always got asked if I thought in English or French and it was always English, but when reading or making a choice or decision, the process would just occur in french and it'd be this whole other mindset of understanding. I know what they're saying, I know my response and there is no form of translating going on in my head per se, it's just acting as anyone else (with slight delay perhaps). I think someone can explain this better than me.

In any case, that's what's been on the tip of mind lately. Just this feeling of wanting to thank someone, I don't get to often and there are very few people I feel I would thank. But she is definitely there and if I ever got an award for some kind of pointless achievement, she'd be in my thank yous everytime.

That's really it.

P.S: Reading comics was also a great way to see how much you are improving or learning. I was a huge fan of Petit Spirou and Asterix at the time (and my mother took away all my video-games, so comics were the closest thing).

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An example of a Petit Spirou comic strip. It revolved around a young Spirou who was fascinated by breasts and women. It's a bit of a tongue in cheek or perverted comic for kids. We liked it because it was funny regardless if we understood what the text wrote (and for years we didn't) and the art was commonly well-done and clear


Hm... I actually don't like this blog at all. It feels undetailed and not usually descriptive. I'm not going to change it because it's fucking long already, but I'm not satisfied either.


***
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
July 13 2011 15:03 GMT
#2
This is why I should pick my times to blog. As soon as I post one, Torte comes along with an amazingly written piece that outshines my simple questions

I vote you head to the town and see if you can find her to thank her in person. Perfect way to show how much you appreciate all she's done to help you

Also, I wish i still knew French, then I could understand the comic. Damn you Google Translate, why can't you do the same for pictures?!?! (yes I could type it, but its a matter of principle)
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Riku
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1064 Posts
July 13 2011 15:03 GMT
#3
Haha, don't be so harsh on yourself, I think you were able to paint a great and amusing picture of your childhood learning without being super detailed.

:3

A good read. 5/5

Now I want to start up my foreign language practice again...
Creative Director, CEO at Stumbling Cat, Writer for Broken Joysticks - Twitter: @RikuKat
Riku
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1064 Posts
July 13 2011 15:04 GMT
#4
On July 14 2011 00:03 Hassybaby wrote:
This is why I should pick my times to blog. As soon as I post one, Torte comes along with an amazingly written piece that outshines my simple questions

I vote you head to the town and see if you can find her to thank her in person. Perfect way to show how much you appreciate all she's done to help you

Also, I wish i still knew French, then I could understand the comic. Damn you Google Translate, why can't you do the same for pictures?!?! (yes I could type it, but its a matter of principle)


Get Google Goggles for your phone. You snap a picture of text and it translates it for you. Since they have it for the phone, they might have an extension you can use on the computer.
Creative Director, CEO at Stumbling Cat, Writer for Broken Joysticks - Twitter: @RikuKat
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
July 13 2011 15:12 GMT
#5
On July 14 2011 00:04 Riku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 00:03 Hassybaby wrote:
This is why I should pick my times to blog. As soon as I post one, Torte comes along with an amazingly written piece that outshines my simple questions

I vote you head to the town and see if you can find her to thank her in person. Perfect way to show how much you appreciate all she's done to help you

Also, I wish i still knew French, then I could understand the comic. Damn you Google Translate, why can't you do the same for pictures?!?! (yes I could type it, but its a matter of principle)


Get Google Goggles for your phone. You snap a picture of text and it translates it for you. Since they have it for the phone, they might have an extension you can use on the computer.


My previous statement on your last blog stand. Once again you've proven youself to be one of TL's hidden heroes. Ironically, its shown in a blog from one of TLs established heroes
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 13 2011 15:23 GMT
#6
On July 14 2011 00:03 Hassybaby wrote:
This is why I should pick my times to blog. As soon as I post one, Torte comes along with an amazingly written piece that outshines my simple questions

I vote you head to the town and see if you can find her to thank her in person. Perfect way to show how much you appreciate all she's done to help you

Also, I wish i still knew French, then I could understand the comic. Damn you Google Translate, why can't you do the same for pictures?!?! (yes I could type it, but its a matter of principle)


I write my blogs the night before and post them the day after after a final read. Sorry ): But I'll surely read yours!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 13 2011 17:50 GMT
#7
On July 14 2011 00:03 Riku wrote:
Haha, don't be so harsh on yourself, I think you were able to paint a great and amusing picture of your childhood learning without being super detailed.

:3

A good read. 5/5

Now I want to start up my foreign language practice again...


I usually make it extremely long and winding because I enjoy depicting events to the miniscule detail.

Thanks
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 13 2011 17:53 GMT
#8
On July 14 2011 02:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 00:03 Riku wrote:
Haha, don't be so harsh on yourself, I think you were able to paint a great and amusing picture of your childhood learning without being super detailed.

:3

A good read. 5/5

Now I want to start up my foreign language practice again...


I usually make it extremely long and winding because I enjoy depicting events to the miniscule detail.

Thanks



Don't forget the italics.

My Torte cameo in my blog was spot on! See!! Opening paragraph in italics - don't even have to look at the name. It's Torte. :p

<3
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
July 13 2011 18:10 GMT
#9
blind 5/5 for the huge post and the good formatting. lol.
@nowSimon
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 13 2011 20:06 GMT
#10
Yes! I'm very keen on my formatting :3
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 13 2011 20:11 GMT
#11
Can you imagine Torte's blogs without any formatting in them at all? Yeah the content is great, but it'd be excruciatingly painful to read...TL's scariest wall of text ever. Thank god Torte takes care of his line breaks. :p
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#12
On July 14 2011 05:11 Torenhire wrote:
Can you imagine Torte's blogs without any formatting in them at all? Yeah the content is great, but it'd be excruciatingly painful to read...TL's scariest wall of text ever. Thank god Torte takes care of his line breaks. :p


I always open with italics as a small personal note. It's in italics to show it is not a part of the main text ;D

I'm thinking of someone who equally writes huge long posts but I can't think of the name off the top of my head.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
July 13 2011 20:25 GMT
#13
Wow Torte, you have a Battlecruiser icon! Congratulations! That's probably the coolest icon available outside of staff. Hope you never lose it!
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 13 2011 20:28 GMT
#14
Less about what you banter on IRC and more about the entry.
Also, Torenhire already mentioned it last night. Give it time.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 13 2011 20:33 GMT
#15
Anything I can do to ruin Torte de Looney's day, I am all for it. Also you're a muta icon now, not a battlecruiser.


Maybe it's not Torte being fucked with, it's me. TL just makes me see you with a different icon constantly and I'm actually the idiot.


Oh god, I'm so confused.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 13 2011 21:36 GMT
#16
You already know about that factor :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 13 2011 21:43 GMT
#17
omg I get home from work and you're a battlecruiser.

1/5 because my brain exploded.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
July 13 2011 21:50 GMT
#18
Nice story. You should go find her!

LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 13 2011 23:30 GMT
#19
I go in around 9 to 10 p.m to avoid the long lines, the judgmental glances of other consumers


Good lord I know what you mean! Don't you hate when people ogle your basket of goodies?

As for this
Hm... I actually don't like this blog at all. It feels undetailed and not usually descriptive. I'm not going to change it because it's fucking long already, but I'm not satisfied either.


I've said it before but I prefer your simpler blogs. They're more honest. Waxing lyrical may be fun but it doesn't necessarily convey the feeling to the reader. With this, I get the sense of nostalgia. It meanders from point to point at a gentle pace.

Very nice
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
July 13 2011 23:58 GMT
#20
Wait are you serious you went to school in the town next to where I lived all my life.
Feels kinda weird reading about that on TL lol
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 14 2011 00:23 GMT
#21
On July 14 2011 08:58 Louuster wrote:
Wait are you serious you went to school in the town next to where I lived all my life.
Feels kinda weird reading about that on TL lol


McMasterville?
St-Bruno?
St-Hilaire?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 14 2011 00:25 GMT
#22
On July 14 2011 08:30 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
I go in around 9 to 10 p.m to avoid the long lines, the judgmental glances of other consumers


Good lord I know what you mean! Don't you hate when people ogle your basket of goodies?

As for this
Show nested quote +
Hm... I actually don't like this blog at all. It feels undetailed and not usually descriptive. I'm not going to change it because it's fucking long already, but I'm not satisfied either.


I've said it before but I prefer your simpler blogs. They're more honest. Waxing lyrical may be fun but it doesn't necessarily convey the feeling to the reader. With this, I get the sense of nostalgia. It meanders from point to point at a gentle pace.

Very nice



Yeah, I do. I always feel subconscious that I eat popsicles. They're fucking good, what are you staring at?

Everyone buys beer, wine and some mossy green shit, then they take a gander at me and think I'm a child of someone's.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
July 14 2011 14:21 GMT
#23
On July 14 2011 09:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 08:58 Louuster wrote:
Wait are you serious you went to school in the town next to where I lived all my life.
Feels kinda weird reading about that on TL lol


McMasterville?
St-Bruno?
St-Hilaire?


St-Hilaire!
Ive now also moved to Montreal tho
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 14 2011 16:28 GMT
#24
On July 14 2011 23:21 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 09:23 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 14 2011 08:58 Louuster wrote:
Wait are you serious you went to school in the town next to where I lived all my life.
Feels kinda weird reading about that on TL lol


McMasterville?
St-Bruno?
St-Hilaire?


St-Hilaire!
Ive now also moved to Montreal tho



Oh bro! You go to Uni? You should come to our StarCraft II Club :B! We're having a house party at a member's house at Westmount too! You should definitely be there (you can see my french).

My mother loved St-Hilaire and was going to buy a house there, but stuck with St-Mathieu-de-Beloeil for its quaintness and serene peace.

Love St-Hilaire.
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