EPTThe answer is No, because Terran has never been that good
And its just been on the decline since release day.Has anyone switched to T in sc2 and had success? - Page 2
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
The answer is No, because Terran has never been that good And its just been on the decline since release day. | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
On July 07 2011 13:51 LuckyFool wrote: there are MANY players who played other races in sc1, Idra switching from T in bw to Z in sc2 for example. I'm more interested in players who were known in beta or early release for a race other than T and switched, as far as I know no one? TLO has switched around and had nice success with Z/T I sorta forgot about him in the op. He could possible be one example although he was mainly just a random player into T into Z then back to T... Yeah, I know.  Just explaining what that Zlasher character was talking about. ^_^Like I said earlier, I think Byun used to play Protoss. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
My honest opinion is that it's the strongest race in series settings. It's an extremely versatile race with lots of options. Easy to get wins in different ways, but hard to play a long, straight-up macro game vs an equally skilled opponent without mistakes. Basically similar to OP. | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
TLO - Random --> Terran. TLO used Terran with his decent two GSL performances. I think he won the Pokerstars Idol Tour with T aswell. Edit: ThorZain as above. ^^ GumihofOu - Was Random, now he's a really good T in the GSTL. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On July 07 2011 12:49 LuckyFool wrote: This argument stemmed from yet another "T is overpowered" argument to which I brought up the point do you even see players switching to T? My honest opinion after almost a year of playing terran in sc2 is that it's easy to get silly wins but really quite hard to play a solid macro game. When I was obsing kawaiirice vs a couple koreans on his stream the other day in TL open it really reminded me of watching broodwar where you had to make all the right moves, drop all the right places at the right times and have armies in the right locations and good positioning just to win a very close 40 minute tvz. There are times where it seems like T plays nearly perfectly and still loses to a Z/P that does seemingly nothing all game. And I agree with most of what you said here. Terran feels much more execution based then the other races. Marine tank has a very predictable attack style so you need to be crisp in your execution (kind of like tvp push method). This is also why I've felt korean terrans were so successful. Execution perfection via mass gaming is their forte | ||
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MassIncestor
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On July 07 2011 13:58 Zlasher wrote: You need to word your title and OP better then, if yo'ure asking if anyone has switched, while in SC2, from Z/P to Terran. The answer is No, because Terran has never been that good And its just been on the decline since release day.Actually did anyone switch to protoss from Z or T ? I don't think so either, cuz P has been in decline since beta as well, every change was a nerf except phoenix build time. The ONLY player who kinda made a switch to T was TLO, but he went from R to T, which isn't that significant. Like it's been mentioned before, T is the most execution based race. Many slower P players for example might not have the multitasking required for some aggressive T styles (like qxc's) and many Zs might actually struggle with macro, since it requires being very specific about the production facilities that you build. In return for this T doesn't offer very significant advantages, so it's not as attractive to switch. Snipe is worse than feedback, Seeker missile is worse than fungal, etc. The only advantage is range, which, again only becomes an advantage if you're mechanically superior than your opponent (due to micro negating abilities, such as FF & fungal). So if you're the type of person who thinks they can mechanically outplay your opponent, you might switch to T. Otherwise there's absolutely no reason. There's only 1 player who went from Z to T since release and has achieved some success - it's Illusion from team Vile, who won one of the DC lans, but he's far from GSL level still, so I don't know if that counts. | ||
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Hakker
United States1360 Posts
I feel like Terran has the most open ended skill cap of the 3 races. At the top, what separates one Protoss from another or one Zerg from another is nowhere near what separates one Terran from another, which is why you see people like QXC who can make better use of sheer relentless agression more than any other player, marineking who can beat the best players using only marines, or Thorzain who is a master of calculated timing and engagement. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
And then on the other side of the coin...T is difficult if you try to play straight up macro games. It's pretty frustrating -_- I think the only person who would qualify for your list lucky is morrow right now - he's basically a Zerg player but switches to T so he does not have to ZvZ. Other than that...yeahhhhh.... | ||
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IIIOmegaIII
Sweden319 Posts
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
MorroW (as you mentioned) is the only person that has switched races and actually been competitively successful in all of sc2 IIRC... You're acting like it's just switching to terran that's hard... has anyone ever switched to protoss and gotten tournament results? Morrow so far I'm pretty sure is the only exception (at least in the foreigner scene... I have no idea about korea) Also, the "easy to get cheap wins but hard to play a macro game" argument for T is exactly 100% the same for P Not so much for Z though | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38149 Posts
On July 07 2011 14:31 MassIncestor wrote: Byun's the only one that switched on a competitive level, he qualified for the first 2 GSLs as P switched and recently pwned both sC and mvp in TvT. Random -> x isnt race switching, but picking and dicking around with different races in beta .... well, who didn't do that I'm just going to quote this since for some reason people still seem to be ignoring it =p Byun = best/most notable player to switch X to T. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
And I agree with everyone, it looks like in general switching races is incredibly rare, I only have two foreigner examples of anyone switching races and both have been OUT of T. ^^ On July 09 2011 20:07 -orb- wrote: Also, the "easy to get cheap wins but hard to play a macro game" argument for T is exactly 100% the same for P I slightly disagree with this, I think it's equally as easy for both T and P to get cheap wins but I feel its much easier for protoss to play a macro game due to a couple factors: 1. being able to warp in units wherever needed in late game, (not having to worry as much about army positioning) 2. not having to force issues with multi pronged attacks and just in general being so insanely cost effective late game (especially vs Z) Just not having to force issues and being able to sit back and let an automatic advantage build up for you over time as protoss makes macro games much easier in general. it's quite difficult defending drops and things but I think its more difficult for terran to execute this well than it is for protoss to defend. | ||
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