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I hate all these What would you do segments as I feel that it actually discourages people from doing the right thing thinking the whole thing is a T.V. sham.
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Imagine how many takes and tries they had to do before they (producers) finally got what they wanted: a reaction or a response from the surrounding parties.
Also, that show commonly shows these sort of things. The novelty wears off when you realize that only three things can occur: nothing, agreement with the malevolent action or protest.
A heart-warming scene, but the broader picture is a bit more grim (though I see NYC making progress!)
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The way the guy with the earings acted was really impressive, that's pretty badass.
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On July 06 2011 08:03 kakaman wrote:
Who knew so called redneck Texas was more understanding than liberal New York?
i thot the stereotype was that texans were friendly and cowboys.
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Wow that's really amazing. With all respect for Texas but I wouldn't have thought they would be the state that reacted the most since they are known for being one of the most conservative states in the US.
+ Show Spoiler +
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It's just the Texan's nature. I know it might sound biased, but I'm a northerner, who's lived in NY and PA for most of his life, who lived in a Texas for a while...
Texans are just more thoughtful as a people, they're more spiritual and less immune to disparaging comments than the people where I live... it's just how their society has worked for generations.
I remember my old history professor telling me about opinions on slavery in the North compared to the South right before the Civil War.
"The Northern man, in his high minded morals, believed the black man to be an equal in race but inferior in individual. In contrast, the Southern man saw the black man as his yokefellow in individual, but his inferior in race."
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On July 06 2011 08:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Imagine how many takes and tries they had to do before they (producers) finally got what they wanted: a reaction or a response from the surrounding parties.
Also, that show commonly shows these sort of things. The novelty wears off when you realize that only three things can occur: nothing, agreement with the malevolent action or protest.
A heart-warming scene, but the broader picture is a bit more grim (though I see NYC making progress!)
It says in the video how many people stood up for the gay couple out of the total bystanders in both NY and Texas.
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On July 06 2011 08:20 ToFu. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 08:03 kakaman wrote:
Who knew so called redneck Texas was more understanding than liberal New York? i thot the stereotype was that texans were friendly and cowboys.
or land of gwb, filled to the brim with neocon ignants with shotguns xD
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That's very impressive. Way to go dude!
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Southern hospitality is a powerful thing. Nothing like it.
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I'm watching the video and it says "Texas is one of the 29 states where gays CAN be refused service". I wasn't aware... in fact I'm pretty surprised and I don't believe it...
Sounds so unconstitutional. Can anyone enlighten me?
Anyway, serious ballers there.
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On July 06 2011 08:37 Diglett wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 08:20 ToFu. wrote:On July 06 2011 08:03 kakaman wrote:
Who knew so called redneck Texas was more understanding than liberal New York? i thot the stereotype was that texans were friendly and cowboys. or land of gwb, filled to the brim with neocon ignants with shotguns xD
Yeah ole Dubya really set the state back, his father was far more competent
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Amazing, texas can be proud to have citizens like this.
Imagin a situation where you get judged and humiliated for your live even infront of your family, there are ppl like the guy with the earrings that give you such an honest heartwarming support.
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On July 06 2011 08:03 kakaman wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424 This was quite interesting to see. ABC filmed a news segment where an actress playing a waitress was saying disparaging remarks to a gay couple (also actresses) in a small town in Texas. It was really surprising to see the other patrons of the restaurant stand up for the gay couple, especially in a state like Texas. I'm not too familiar with Texas, but I know there are pockets of liberalism (the mayor of Houston is gay). However, this seems like a fairly conservative town. I was also thinking that here in NYC, no one would stand up for the gay couple (but they wouldn't support the waitress either). The segment confirms this, as they did do a segment in NYC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLPv6CPmKY
What an ignorant statement. Statistically, yes more people spoke up in Texas. But to use the words "more understanding"?
Maybe for the same reasons New Yorkers generally don't look each other eye-to-eye on the subways, they also don't like to get into other people's business. Maybe it's for another reason. Neither of these clips show a link between "understanding" and location.
Have you ever lived in New York? If you did, you know that the chances of getting shot/stabbed/cut for butting into other people's business is a very real fear. And again, there are undoubtedly a lot of other unknown factors.
Ironic that you created a thread highlighting bigotry, stereotyping, over-generalization, etc. and conclude with an over-generalized statement.
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On July 06 2011 09:29 jacosajh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 08:03 kakaman wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424 This was quite interesting to see. ABC filmed a news segment where an actress playing a waitress was saying disparaging remarks to a gay couple (also actresses) in a small town in Texas. It was really surprising to see the other patrons of the restaurant stand up for the gay couple, especially in a state like Texas. I'm not too familiar with Texas, but I know there are pockets of liberalism (the mayor of Houston is gay). However, this seems like a fairly conservative town. I was also thinking that here in NYC, no one would stand up for the gay couple (but they wouldn't support the waitress either). The segment confirms this, as they did do a segment in NYC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLPv6CPmKY What an ignorant statement. Statistically, yes more people spoke up in Texas. But to use the words "more understanding"? Maybe for the same reasons New Yorkers generally don't look each other eye-to-eye on the subways, they also don't like to get into other people's business. Maybe it's for another reason. Neither of these clips show a link between "understanding" and location. Have you ever lived in New York? If you did, you know that the chances of getting shot/stabbed/cut for butting into other people's business is a very real fear. And again, there are undoubtedly a lot of other unknown factors. Ironic that you created a thread highlighting bigotry, stereotyping, over-generalization, etc. and conclude with an over-generalized statement.
I'm from NYC buddy, the areas where you would get stabbed for voicing your views are very few and far in between. While the sample size of the tv segment was quite small, it still showed a glimpse of two different attitudes to the same problem. If you want to consider my blog an over-generalization, fine, but I feel that I just merely provided a summary for the tv segment I saw.
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On July 06 2011 09:29 jacosajh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 08:03 kakaman wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424 This was quite interesting to see. ABC filmed a news segment where an actress playing a waitress was saying disparaging remarks to a gay couple (also actresses) in a small town in Texas. It was really surprising to see the other patrons of the restaurant stand up for the gay couple, especially in a state like Texas. I'm not too familiar with Texas, but I know there are pockets of liberalism (the mayor of Houston is gay). However, this seems like a fairly conservative town. I was also thinking that here in NYC, no one would stand up for the gay couple (but they wouldn't support the waitress either). The segment confirms this, as they did do a segment in NYC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLPv6CPmKY What an ignorant statement. Statistically, yes more people spoke up in Texas. But to use the words "more understanding"? Maybe for the same reasons New Yorkers generally don't look each other eye-to-eye on the subways, they also don't like to get into other people's business. Maybe it's for another reason. Neither of these clips show a link between "understanding" and location. Have you ever lived in New York? If you did, you know that the chances of getting shot/stabbed/cut for butting into other people's business is a very real fear. And again, there are undoubtedly a lot of other unknown factors. Ironic that you created a thread highlighting bigotry, stereotyping, over-generalization, etc. and conclude with an over-generalized statement.
Isn't that kind of... well, backwards to say? If New Yorkers create an environment that forcibly shuns behavior that is considered more understanding doesn't that mean that they are generally also less understanding of one another?
I mean, if you can't muster the courage to look at someone else for fear of death or butting into something not your own, how can you argue that such a group could be MORE or even similarly understanding than the other group?
Saying that it's an overgeneralization is true, but ignoring the truth because of overstatement is just as... well, backwards, if not more so, than such overgeneralization.
Of course there are unknown factors, but in the end, you can't really argue that if you were being disparaged you'd rather be in a place that shuns anyone from helping you because that's just the culture... because, of course, you'd want people to mind their own business...
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On July 06 2011 08:20 ToFu. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 08:03 kakaman wrote:
Who knew so called redneck Texas was more understanding than liberal New York? i thot the stereotype was that texans were friendly and cowboys.
It's more along the lines of hardass rednecks who are more than willing to go trigger happy with their shotguns.
I kid. But the general stereotype is that they're rednecks I guess... :I
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To be honest, speaking as a gay guy who would find the situation totally outrageous, I probably wouldn't speak up unless I saw the parents getting really distraught. I'm just non-confrontational by nature, and I would just assume that the parents could handle themselves in the situation. No need for me to make the scene bigger.
I assume that sort of attitude is more prevalent in NYC.
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