Once again, stop blaming blizzard, you can drop anyone easily on ICCup...

We need to summon TL's Wizard, R1CH. He can provide more advanced advice than I in terms of network protection.

SarR

476 Posts

June 30 2011 11:16 GMT

#22

On June 30 2011 20:11 LiLu wrote:
I hope blizzard implement a ladder system like ICCUP from this experience...

Unlikely

Zaphid

Czech Republic1860 Posts

June 30 2011 11:17 GMT

#23

Looks like the ladder needs a few swings of the banhammer.

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

June 30 2011 11:22 GMT

#24

Blizzard can get a handle on drophackers, even if it is an out of game exploit. They just need to implement a well organized and actually effective report system. Maybe even add a player arbitrated review system like the one League of Legends has used so successfully. If they did a good job with the system it would make hacking in any semiobvious way almost completely impossible, as you can't just make a new account in SC2.

Taking any sort of 100% tech approach to antihack is a complete failure as we all can see. But try taking your "undetectable" aimbot into a FPS server with an active admin and you gonna get your ass banned.

deathly rat

United Kingdom911 Posts

June 30 2011 11:27 GMT

#25

On June 30 2011 20:22 sob3k wrote:
Blizzard can get a handle on drophackers, even if it is an out of game exploit. They just need to implement a well organized and actually effective report system. Maybe even add a player arbitrated review system like the one League of Legends has used so successfully. If they did a good job with the system it would make hacking in any semiobvious way almost completely impossible, as you can't just make a new account in SC2.

Taking any sort of 100% tech approach to antihack is a complete failure as we all can see. But try taking your "undetectable" aimbot into a FPS server with an active admin and you gonna get your ass banned.

How do you stop people reporting people for hacking when they are raging after being cheesed?

HornyHerring

Papua New Guinea1059 Posts

June 30 2011 11:47 GMT

#26

Geez, there's no way to get your opponent's IP on bnet, because all the traffic is routed thru bnet servers, there's no direct traffic beteen players.
And you should realize that drops are in most cases of natural causes, not hacks. I guess Blizzard will adress it quite soon, if they plan on keeping the game alive.

grs

Germany2339 Posts

June 30 2011 12:03 GMT

#27

On June 30 2011 19:58 endy wrote:

Show nested quote +

What do you mean by exploiting SC2? Whatever Blizzard can try to fix if you have the guy's IP you can still flood his router.

As I said, if every P2P feature in SC2 is disabled, it's gonna be a lot harder to get your opponent's IP.

I doubt that this is not a problem with Blizzard for a few reasons:

1. There are people mass drophacking. There is no way they could get the IP of all other players they are playing, if not through the bnet.
2. You can't simply ddos someone else from your PC as some posts here seem to suggest. You would need at least a small bot network to do that and I severely doubt that is the case here.
3. If you read up on this a bit, you can deduce that they work through the sc2 client or at least use data from it.

Blizzard has already shut down a lot of them through patches (same has been true for WC3 btw) and they probably will shut more and more down with more and more new ones spawning. To me this seems like a flaw in the software, they are not able/willing to completely fix it, since the reason is probably in some priciples how the communication from client to bnet works.

hifriend

China7935 Posts

June 30 2011 12:38 GMT

#28

Pretty sad that someone would release a drophack to the public.

The only way you can protect yourself is by using the same hack, don't worry worst case scenario you get banned until the end of the season and they'll brand it as "permanent." Even that is unlikely.

And works by lagging your opponents (non-winhackers) out of the game. ...

... Have fun playing!

By the way it's an in game exploit. ^^

HornyHerring

Papua New Guinea1059 Posts

June 30 2011 12:54 GMT

#29

On June 30 2011 21:38 hifriend wrote:
Pretty sad that someone would release a drophack to the public.

The only way you can protect yourself is by using the same hack, don't worry worst case scenario you get banned until the end of the season and they'll brand it as "permanent." Even that is unlikely.

Show nested quote +

By the way it's an in game exploit. ^^

How about you contact blizzard with a link to that and said software?

On June 30 2011 21:03 grs wrote:
2. You can't simply ddos someone else from your PC as some posts here seem to suggest. You would need at least a small bot network to do that and I severely doubt that is the case here.

You can. You just need a superior connection. But still, it's no ddos, it's a gameflaw that causes the drops.

DyEnasTy

United States3721 Posts

June 30 2011 13:20 GMT

#30

Did you watch Tyler's stream earlier? Same "EGIdra" did to him.

Is there anything we can do to report these players?
And what is the fake Idra's character code?

PetitCrabe

Canada410 Posts

June 30 2011 16:14 GMT

#31

During the WC3 days, there were sooo many map hackers and drop hackers that every now and then, Blizzard would either ban or suspend the CD-keys. I guess in SC2 it would be ban the account.

I could be wrong, but I`m pretty sure that for WoW, when you agree to blizzrd`s term of use, you agree that when you open WoW, you give blizzard the right to see which programs are running on your computer. If it`s an illegal program (i.e map hack) they reserve the right to ban your account.

Specialist

United States803 Posts

June 30 2011 20:51 GMT

#32

after a good round of sleep, I begin my first game of the day

guess what happened? drop hacked again, this time by PiQLiQ

wow

Prevolved

United States573 Posts

June 30 2011 21:06 GMT

#33

just got drophacked by FireyDickbut. awesome name. drophacked by the EGIdrA guy last night too. this is fucking ridiculous, it makes me not want to ladder. i don't give a shit if i lose legit, that just gives me a replay to watch and learn from. but this is just wasting peoples' time

proot

United States126 Posts

June 30 2011 21:17 GMT

#34

Rofl, this hack is spreading like the plague. I've been drophacked about four times today in 10 games, two of them when I was clearly ahead. These guys are gonna walk away untouched because of blizzard's incompetence. That pillage guy who first used the hack sat on top 5 GM for two weeks and got dropped out of GM from inactivity, not blizzard's removal.

Keldrath

United States449 Posts

June 30 2011 21:26 GMT

#35

i think they may be on their way to removing that fake idra aka Ldra. his post history got wiped from the bnet forums so that tells me he was at least perma banned from there.

it was strange reading his thread about it yesterday about how he made his way to rank 1 GM by drophacking. even admitting to it.

DyEnasTy

United States3721 Posts

June 30 2011 22:26 GMT

#36

On July 01 2011 06:26 Keldrath wrote:
i think they may be on their way to removing that fake idra aka Ldra. his post history got wiped from the bnet forums so that tells me he was at least perma banned from there.

it was strange reading his thread about it yesterday about how he made his way to rank 1 GM by drophacking. even admitting to it.

can you post a link?

cowbringer

United States14 Posts

July 01 2011 03:07 GMT

#37

another drophacker "UmadBro" right now hes got like 20 straight wins in less than an hour. Please someone fix this

K-Oicks

Canada13 Posts

July 01 2011 04:25 GMT

#38

People need to chill out and quit raging at Blizzard. This drophack is relatively new, mainly within the last week. Give Blizzard a BIT of time... and I'm sure they will patch it. Compared to other games, Starcraft 2's hacker population is really low, and if anything, you should be greatly it's not flooded with hackers. If you care about losing to the drophack, then stop laddering for now.