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Specialist
United States803 Posts
I'm trying to get to Grandmaster but I lost 4 times by drop hack users 2 times were by EGIdra (fake) and 2 times were by IBGJebacca how do I deal with this... I really want to become GM but this is getting increasingly frustrating as people just drop hack to prevent me from getting GM. I just lost 48 pts total dealing with them... and I'm at 1.9 k so this is getting increasingly frustrating. I wish blizzard would be competent, really   | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Or am I missing something ? edit : Also, there's not much Blizzard can do against drop hack, since it's not an in-game hack. Typical way of dropping someone is to flood his router with UDP packets, and Blizzard can't protect your router. You can block all UDP ports other than B.Net, Bittorrent and other services you commonly use. Other common ways to drop someone is using Teardrop / TCP SYN flood, are not always easy to block. Your router can already prevent some vulnerabilities, so make sure you are using the latest version of the firmware. The only thing Blizzard could do is to remove every single P2P feature so that it become impossible for another user to get your IP through B.Net. edited to add more details | ||
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:01 endy wrote: I'm not sure of how to interpret this blog... Is it serious ? If it's not serious is it supposed to be funny ? Or am I missing something ? this is real and true drop hack needs to be dropped.... idk why ppl do it | ||
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
Edit: oh nvm i thought you meant like drops in the game. not like DCing the opponent. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:02 LiLu wrote: this is real and true drop hack needs to be dropped.... idk why ppl do it So you're accusing Idra of using drop hack to win against sub-GM league players ? So once again, am I missing something, or that guy isn't the real Idra and is a guy who use a small case "L" to fake a capital "i" ? edit : yeah I missed something (thanks explanation in post below), but OP was really confusing. | ||
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Geordie
United Kingdom653 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:07 endy wrote: So you're accusing Idra of using drop hack to win against sub-GM league players ? So once again, am I missing something, or that guy isn't the real Idra and is a guy who use a small case "L" to fake a capital "i" ? More than 1 person can have the same name on battlenet, the only thing that makes the users different is there character code. More than likely this is just a hacker who gave himself the tag EGidra to trick people into thinking that idra is going around hacking. | ||
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Ezkaton
Japan416 Posts
 I just dont know what can be done about it tbh. | ||
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vvSiegvv
United States364 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:07 endy wrote: So you're accusing Idra of using drop hack to win against sub-GM league players ? So once again, am I missing something, or that guy isn't the real Idra and is a guy who use a small case "L" to fake a capital "i" ? Yes he's a fake, he's been seen on quite a few streams today, and on each one he's used a drophack. I saw him on Tyler's stream earlier today. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:10 Geordie wrote: More than 1 person can have the same name on battlenet, the only thing that makes the users different is there character code. More than likely this is just a hacker who gave himself the tag EGidra to trick people into thinking that idra is going around hacking. Oh I see, in that case why is OP providing user names, it's really confusing when he says he got dropped twice by EGIdra :/ Thank you for the explanation though. | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
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Creek
United States177 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:01 endy wrote: I'm not sure of how to interpret this blog... Is it serious ? If it's not serious is it supposed to be funny ? Or am I missing something ? edit : Also, there's not much Blizzard can do against drop hack, since it's not an in-game hack. You have to protect yourself better. Typical way of dropping someone is to spam his router with UDP packets, don't expect Blizzard to protect your router... The only thing Blizzard could do is to remove every single P2P feature so that it become impossible for another user to get your IP through B.Net. Drop hack is not a mass-packet DoS style attack. It's exploiting starcraft 2, Blizzard CAN fix it. | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
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wonderwall
New Zealand695 Posts
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ThisIsJimmy
United States546 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:45 Creek wrote: Drop hack is not a mass-packet DoS style attack. It's exploiting starcraft 2, Blizzard CAN fix it. What do you mean by exploiting SC2? Whatever Blizzard can try to fix if you have the guy's IP you can still flood his router. As I said, if every P2P feature in SC2 is disabled, it's gonna be a lot harder to get your opponent's IP. | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a thread on it, but maybe someone on TL can take it upon themselves to manage the situation. | ||
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On June 30 2011 20:11 LiLu wrote: I hope blizzard implement a ladder system like ICCUP from this experience... Once again, stop blaming blizzard, you can drop anyone easily on ICCup... We need to summon TL's Wizard, R1CH. He can provide more advanced advice than I in terms of network protection. | ||
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SarR
476 Posts
On June 30 2011 20:11 LiLu wrote: I hope blizzard implement a ladder system like ICCUP from this experience... Unlikely | ||
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Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Taking any sort of 100% tech approach to antihack is a complete failure as we all can see. But try taking your "undetectable" aimbot into a FPS server with an active admin and you gonna get your ass banned. | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
On June 30 2011 20:22 sob3k wrote: Blizzard can get a handle on drophackers, even if it is an out of game exploit. They just need to implement a well organized and actually effective report system. Maybe even add a player arbitrated review system like the one League of Legends has used so successfully. If they did a good job with the system it would make hacking in any semiobvious way almost completely impossible, as you can't just make a new account in SC2. Taking any sort of 100% tech approach to antihack is a complete failure as we all can see. But try taking your "undetectable" aimbot into a FPS server with an active admin and you gonna get your ass banned. How do you stop people reporting people for hacking when they are raging after being cheesed? | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
And you should realize that drops are in most cases of natural causes, not hacks. I guess Blizzard will adress it quite soon, if they plan on keeping the game alive. | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:58 endy wrote: What do you mean by exploiting SC2? Whatever Blizzard can try to fix if you have the guy's IP you can still flood his router. As I said, if every P2P feature in SC2 is disabled, it's gonna be a lot harder to get your opponent's IP. I doubt that this is not a problem with Blizzard for a few reasons: 1. There are people mass drophacking. There is no way they could get the IP of all other players they are playing, if not through the bnet. 2. You can't simply ddos someone else from your PC as some posts here seem to suggest. You would need at least a small bot network to do that and I severely doubt that is the case here. 3. If you read up on this a bit, you can deduce that they work through the sc2 client or at least use data from it. Blizzard has already shut down a lot of them through patches (same has been true for WC3 btw) and they probably will shut more and more down with more and more new ones spawning. To me this seems like a flaw in the software, they are not able/willing to completely fix it, since the reason is probably in some priciples how the communication from client to bnet works. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
The only way you can protect yourself is by using the same hack, don't worry worst case scenario you get banned until the end of the season and they'll brand it as "permanent." Even that is unlikely. And works by lagging your opponents (non-winhackers) out of the game. ... ... Have fun playing! By the way it's an in game exploit. ^^ | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
On June 30 2011 21:38 hifriend wrote: Pretty sad that someone would release a drophack to the public. The only way you can protect yourself is by using the same hack, don't worry worst case scenario you get banned until the end of the season and they'll brand it as "permanent." Even that is unlikely. By the way it's an in game exploit. ^^ How about you contact blizzard with a link to that and said software? On June 30 2011 21:03 grs wrote: 2. You can't simply ddos someone else from your PC as some posts here seem to suggest. You would need at least a small bot network to do that and I severely doubt that is the case here. You can. You just need a superior connection. But still, it's no ddos, it's a gameflaw that causes the drops. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
Is there anything we can do to report these players? And what is the fake Idra's character code? | ||
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PetitCrabe
Canada410 Posts
I could be wrong, but I`m pretty sure that for WoW, when you agree to blizzrd`s term of use, you agree that when you open WoW, you give blizzard the right to see which programs are running on your computer. If it`s an illegal program (i.e map hack) they reserve the right to ban your account. | ||
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
guess what happened? drop hacked again, this time by PiQLiQ wow | ||
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Prevolved
United States573 Posts
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proot
United States126 Posts
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Keldrath
United States449 Posts
it was strange reading his thread about it yesterday about how he made his way to rank 1 GM by drophacking. even admitting to it. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On July 01 2011 06:26 Keldrath wrote: i think they may be on their way to removing that fake idra aka Ldra. his post history got wiped from the bnet forums so that tells me he was at least perma banned from there. it was strange reading his thread about it yesterday about how he made his way to rank 1 GM by drophacking. even admitting to it. can you post a link? | ||
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cowbringer
United States14 Posts
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K-Oicks
Canada13 Posts
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
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