EPTShould I quit? - Page 3
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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PhatCop
Australia70 Posts
1) Everyone starts low. Coffee runs, photocopying bitch, mindless paper pusher - some one has to do them, and it's usually the intern or the newest guy. 2) This is because contrary to what fresh graduates or penultimate year university students think, they usually know jack all, and managers are not stupid enough to let people who have no idea what they are doing to mess up, since they have to clean up after you when you screw up. 3) Sure, you may have some sort of theory based knowledge, but the real world is about experience. That's why work experience is an important part in your CV. You will learn so much via experience then you ever will from studying. Even if you think you won't learn anything, you will. (unless you aren't looking to learn). 4) For example, in your case, you may know how the assembly line works in a day. However, do you know what is the most frequent problem that occurs with the machine that causes downtimes of more then 30 mins? Do you know what causes it, and can alter your designs at a R&D level to minimise this risk, since the company can't afford to buy new machines? Can you establish relationships with people down there working in the factories to obtain timely, accurate feedback if you are sitting in your office from day 1? 5) 2 weeks is nothing. People do assembly work for their entire lives. People do much worse work in order for a chance to gain a foothold into the industry. There are people out there who would take this opportunity with both hands and never let go. 6) Given your past record of quitting internships, I'd say you need to grow up and stop thinking so snobbishly. Take advices from the people in this thread (because it sounds like you aren't taking it). If you think like this for the rest of your life, you won't get very far. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Zedders
Canada450 Posts
You realize that most entry positions/internships are just placeholders for the future of your career with tthat company. It has so little to do with anything that you will actually be doing. Even schooling is like this...So many of the things we learn are complete and utter waste of time but we must do it to gain the diploma, it isn't necessary for the actual job you want to do. So don't be at all surprised if at ANY job in ANY field you start off with the shitty grunt work that has nothing to do with what you're trying to get at. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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Artifice
United States523 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
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tests
United States160 Posts
Welcome to the real world. J/K man but honestly I would continue the internship as two weeks is really nothing. In the grand scheme of things, if you go on with the two weeks, you might get the job you want.If you quit, you will never know how your future in that company could have panned out after two weeks (plus interns always get the bottom of the barrel stuff so I wouldn't worry about it) | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
Thats how in germany you do it, you know them, they know you and so you can sell you for the best price. | ||
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Classysaurus
United States78 Posts
On June 23 2011 13:48 Riku wrote: For the work itself, I understand many people are telling me to suck it up and realize how the rest of the nation earns a living. Great, I respect the rest of the nation for those efforts and I've spent the last three years of college working to assure I'll never have to do that work. Wrong. That's what people did decades ago. Today, a college degree will give you opportunities, not assurance that you get those opportunities no matter how hard you try. | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
I have yet to see a fresh graduate have anywhere near the skill/knowledge/efficiency of an experienced engineer, or even an experienced tech (most have no fucking clue what world they live in when it comes to doing practical stuff and still have the audacity to ask for huge pay just because they got a piece of paper). In this business experience is most of the time >>>> degree, there's plenty to learn, even from low level jobs. Current company had the fresh hardware engineers do soldering/bare board debugging for their initiation, works well not having to rely on a tech being around when you do prototyping at midnight. | ||
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Coramoor
Canada455 Posts
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Parnass
Germany145 Posts
this feeling of "honor" and sucking it up is counterproductive. Even though I agree that sticking it out can be good if you see some progress in the future in this case it sounds like a dead end. my advice: tell them that you want to do some challenging work and if they don't react, quit. your time is too valuable to be stuck in a dead end | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
Sorry for pedantry | ||
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Zorkmid
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 23 2011 11:17 Kennigit wrote: No, you should suck it up - if you really know the machines that well, call you manager show him/her you know it like the back of your hand and be on your merry way. Theres actually a reasonable chance that they say "cool. keep doing it". It's orientation, and a lot of organizations do it so that you have an appreciation of what is going on "on ground level". Military officers have to go through the same shit training and conditioning as a private new recruit - if you have a shit time with these systems now, when you get into a position that you can affect change you will be concious of the fact that dealing with them sucks. If you don't respect their system, and it's not worth the pay then quit. Don't quit because the orientation is 2 weeks - it's nothing. This. Think of it as an initiation. | ||
Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On June 23 2011 14:32 PhatCop wrote: To be honest, you sound like you have no idea how the real world works. 1) Everyone starts low. Coffee runs, photocopying bitch, mindless paper pusher - some one has to do them, and it's usually the intern or the newest guy. 2) This is because contrary to what fresh graduates or penultimate year university students think, they usually know jack all, and managers are not stupid enough to let people who have no idea what they are doing to mess up, since they have to clean up after you when you screw up. 3) Sure, you may have some sort of theory based knowledge, but the real world is about experience. That's why work experience is an important part in your CV. You will learn so much via experience then you ever will from studying. Even if you think you won't learn anything, you will. (unless you aren't looking to learn). 4) For example, in your case, you may know how the assembly line works in a day. However, do you know what is the most frequent problem that occurs with the machine that causes downtimes of more then 30 mins? Do you know what causes it, and can alter your designs at a R&D level to minimise this risk, since the company can't afford to buy new machines? Can you establish relationships with people down there working in the factories to obtain timely, accurate feedback if you are sitting in your office from day 1? 5) 2 weeks is nothing. People do assembly work for their entire lives. People do much worse work in order for a chance to gain a foothold into the industry. There are people out there who would take this opportunity with both hands and never let go. 6) Given your past record of quitting internships, I'd say you need to grow up and stop thinking so snobbishly. Take advices from the people in this thread (because it sounds like you aren't taking it). If you think like this for the rest of your life, you won't get very far. I started writing up a reply and then I found that this comment says what I was going to say. I went through a phase in first and second year where I thought "I'm an engineering student!" Then I realized I didn't know shit about engineering yet and worked my summers assembling cars on night shift. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
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Shifft
Canada1085 Posts
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