EPTShould I quit? - Page 5
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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StarStruck
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On June 24 2011 07:17 Coramoor wrote: ...the sense of entitlement that a lot of engineering students display is amazingly pathetic Couldn't agree more and many will deny it. The companies I know follow similar procedures. They didn't hide it. Communication. Anyway, you got some good feedback. Hopefully you use it wisely and don't jump the gun. | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On June 24 2011 12:36 Smix wrote: and that is how you become gummiggit lol hi smix  Kennigit is my hero, as all the mods/staff probably know! I wake up every morning and think WWKD? I think the OP would be a lot more successful if she simply thought to herself WWKD? Is this shit hardcore enough for me? If not, fuck that shit, jump out of an airplane and get a better job. On June 24 2011 12:38 heyoka wrote: You're "like 20"? You go to an ivy league school and don't know how old you are? Man, once you're like 12, all the years sort of just run together. I mean age is just a number isn't it? Like that crazy 16 year old marrying that old dude from Lost. On June 24 2011 12:33 baller wrote: ... don't be so humble man tell us about ur strengths All my favorite posters are coming out of the woodwork. I love blogs and being so helpful! You're welcome OP! | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On June 24 2011 13:19 Roffles wrote: The only thing Gummy's good at is trolling... The only thing Roffles is good at is everything  Edit: But especially singing. He's amazing at singing. | ||
BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
On June 24 2011 08:51 Riku wrote: I just wrote a 10 page report and e-mailed it to my boss. I'm not a slacker, I just want to fix the problems without wasting time. You don't mean you mailed him a 10 page report about your working situation... right? | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On June 24 2011 13:43 BroOd wrote: You don't mean you mailed him a 10 page report about your working situation... right? She means that as part of his job he was required to write a 8 page report. He went above and beyond the call of duty and wrote an extra 2 fucking pages to prove "Hell, I'm the best damn intern you ever gonna see, so you better start putting me to good use." | ||
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Coramoor
Canada455 Posts
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On June 24 2011 14:37 Coramoor wrote: can we stop using the word he, when this is a girl we are talking about, it just seems plain rude at this point Sorry. I think I was the only person guilty of referring to the OP as a she, since I'm a bad poster and am largely oblivious to the world around me. I edited all my posts to reflect your well-thought-out request. Oh wait, this is that hot cosplay girl from blizzcon! Edit: I am soooo sorry for being such a dick I will now exit this thread with my head down. | ||
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DeckOneBell
United States526 Posts
Is there no way to get the problems fixed without heading straight towards the upper management with a typed paper? Like, by talking to your immediate supervisor or other workers? I don't get it. Have more respect for the people that might eventually end up working under you. They're not somehow magically dumber than you because you happen to be an engineering student. They might not have had all the opportunities you have had, and they seem to be complaining much less than you. On June 24 2011 12:36 Smix wrote: and that is how you become gummiggit I like the fact that you're making this a meme. I approve whole-heartedly. EDIT: To add on more to what I've said, it's not a matter of just sucking it up, really, the right response is to actually want to learn how everything works at the lowest levels of manufacturing. This is an opportunity you might not get as a higher level engineer or scientist, which is to actually physically work with the components. | ||
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Deja Thoris
South Africa646 Posts
Sure it sucks now but doing mundane shit like you are doing now will help you in future. For example, we are currently building a reactor ($200m dollar project) and there are hundreds of engineering fuckups, simple stuff like access to valves (too high / low / positioned with the spindle in towards a piperack etc) This crap is less likely to happen if an engineer does the hard yards on the plant instead of sitting in an office block because they can apply their theory to real world situations. It's probably a little uncharitable to judge based on a blog post but I think you need to adjust your attitude a little. You are only just on the bottom rung and you need to accept you have a lot to learn. A bit of hard graft will be part of that learning process. Edit: Holy shit. I just read the rest of your replies. You are an engineering student and you are passing judgement on how little the rest of your colleagues know? Thats massively arrogant. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
Holy farking WOW As someone who works with engineers(not an engineer myself) on a daily basis..............you are really setting yourself up to be a worthless PoS later in life, and very possibly an unemployed PoS. None of this would be an issue, as I was aware of it all before I accepted the position. However, as part of my "orientation" with the company, they have decided to have me work the assembly line for the first two weeks. This means I am not practicing engineering at all, I'm just acting as cheap labor as I do the same repetitive tasks that they could train any person off of the street to do in five minutes. I was informed this was to familiarize me with the machines, but I figure if I'm an engineer and I can't figure out a machine in an hour (let alone the 20 hours they want me to put in at each station), that I shouldn't have been hired in the first place. This kind of "Im better than this" crap....You've been working there for a whole day now, and already you feel that what a company is paying you to do, and what is clearly just a "field experience" thing, is below your considerable talents, and makes you want to quit....it makes me want to smack some sense into you. Seriously? Grow the fark up, put in some dirty work, and do your best at it. This is one of the reasons there is a lot of unemployment, despite there being jobs open and many "qualified people" available. Everyone just acts like you, and refuses to even look at something that doesn't pay $100k a year and involve you designing nuclear fusion devices on a molecular scale, despite the fact that they have zero real world experience. Obviously I'm exaggerating slightly, but you get the point. I hope the modmins don't consider this too harsh, because it's something that you need to get shocked with. You are not better than anyone because you have a piece of paper. Get out, and prove you have work ethic, and the willingness to get your hands dirty to get the job done. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
We are "better than this crap". We paid so much money and did the courses no one else did so we wouldn't be laborers. We find solutions to problems. The orientation will be worth it tho just stick it out. Think of it like initiation. The extra $5 an hour wont cover rent for having to move away. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
For example, there was the contest from Nasa to design a mining landrover for the moon (or mars), the guys that won didn't have the levels of education of the other teams, they just had more physical experience with similar machines then everyone else. In my career so far, it's kind of frustrating to work with an engineer that can do the math like the other engineers, but then has no idea of how stuff actually gets done. I was also fairly lucky to be seated right next to the guy that had the most experience of anyone in the entire company, but had several heart attacks so he had to be "demoted" from the higher stress jobs. But now I'm the Field Coordinator for a steel company on arguably the largest current construction job this side of Quebec. It's sometimes not about getting the experience you want, but getting the experience you need so you can get the experience you want. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On June 24 2011 21:58 ComaDose wrote: I'm an engineering student too. We are "better than this crap". We paid so much money and did the courses no one else did so we wouldn't be laborers. We find solutions to problems. The orientation will be worth it tho just stick it out. Think of it like initiation. The extra $5 an hour wont cover rent for having to move away. That doesn't mean that you instantly know how to do anything real world. I am constantly having to revise engineer's drawings because half of them don't know how anything real world looks or works like. You shouldn't be common laborers, no, that's why you went to school. But that doesn't mean you should instantly have job solving real world problems, with no experience in the actual system or job you are performing, because you have no experience with it other than theoretical. I say real world, and maybe you don't understand, because you're still a student, and think the exercises/projects they have you do are "real world". Hint: they are not. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Welcome to the real work world. After 3 months of essentially being a hired temp worker, I had made a good impression. The CEO even knew who I was, (and at one point even hired me to paint his warhammer army for him, lololo). Anyway, when I asked for a real job the following summer, all I had to do was call him up, and I got hired like 2 weeks later with half the office remembering me. EZ real summer job. But yes, you have to do the shit work at first. You aren't above it, lol. Soooo many college kids think they're going to be writing code or designing robots on their first internship. It's adorable. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32071 Posts
so yeah youd be kind of nuts to not do it unless you have something that is absolutely 100% better and it doesn't sound like it. | ||
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TheGiz
Canada708 Posts
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Smoru
United States83 Posts
Lazing around at home, not getting valuable stuff for your resume? I'd rather do what your internship is than work at a fast food place: working 10-12 hour days, 7 days a week, always standing, making shitty food for angry fat people. Especially horrible if you do what I did and work at a place where chili is the main product served, it gets everywhere and you reek of it by the time you are done | ||
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Zorkmid
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