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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On June 22 2011 03:08 zawk9 wrote: Anyone who complains about any matchup in SC2 should be forced to play TvP in Brood War. That should set them straight :p tbh i feel TvP in BW is easier than TvZ in SC2 ^^ but thats probably just me Lategame TvZ is hard as hell | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
"Aaah I've finally got him n-" *6 carriers* ~_~ | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On June 22 2011 04:44 TheSubtleArt wrote: "Aaah I've finally got him n-" *6 carriers* ~_~ This is how I won all my offrace PvTs. 3base arbs -> ??????? i DUNNO what the f I'm doing -> 4-5 base put down like 4 stargates because my macro is bad and then I'll win or lose depending on how bad my Terran opponent is. | ||
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qdenser
Canada133 Posts
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MyLastSerenade
Germany710 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On June 22 2011 05:13 MyLastSerenade wrote: i got the same problem.... most of my zerg opponents go blind 3 queens 2 spine and i cant do enough damage with my helions, then he just get´s his 3rd, because he knows that i cant do more preassure without at least 3 tanks and mass marine/medivac and from then on i get rolled everytime :/ well... if you have a walloff with 1rax 2 depot, it's most likely either a FE or a hellion build anyways.....and if they scout that you went 1rax -> gas, it's definitely (to a zerg's eyes) a hellion build. so no it isn't really "blind". | ||
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
I played only TvP in BW because I enjoyed how hard it was (D+ level), but it felt possible. TvZ feels alot more harder and alot more impossible. Good luck with tvz. Play it alot, try to find some zerg practice partner and get your gamesense up. Gamesense (knowing when to attack the zerg, knowing when to expand, etc) is very important in TvZ (imo). | ||
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Bortlett
United States302 Posts
I do early reactor hellion harrass into a 3 tank push around the 10-11 minute mark. That push makes or breaks the game for me - if it doesn't do enough damage, I will lose most of the time. I don't often win with that push, but I need to force my opponent to invest a lot into killing it. When broodlords are out, it's over. I need to have vikings out when broodlords are done and I often don't. Drops are really effective. You don't have to do double drops, but a drop while you're attacking with your main force can do a lot of damage. You definitely can't just sit back and macro the whole game. You'll get crushed. Good luck! | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On June 22 2011 04:59 qdenser wrote: the solution of course is to play ZvT And realize the matchup is just as annoying from a Zerg perspective lol. It's actualyl a good idea though, you'll learn what's difficult to deal with as Zerg, when to push out, where to drop, when to run hellions in vs when not to, how effective pushing while dropping is, etc, just by experiencing the pain yourself. | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On June 22 2011 04:48 koreasilver wrote: This is how I won all my offrace PvTs. 3base arbs -> ??????? i DUNNO what the f I'm doing -> 4-5 base put down like 4 stargates because my macro is bad and then I'll win or lose depending on how bad my Terran opponent is. Lol DT drops, recalls, carrier transitions, shuttle bombs, and reavers microed by koreans....so obnoxious >_< | ||
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RmoteCntrld
United States596 Posts
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OmniEulogy
Canada6593 Posts
On June 22 2011 06:13 RmoteCntrld wrote: Snipe tech with drops over and over and over worked for MMA? Its simple too, just fly the medivac through the muta swarm unscathed, then land next to the tech and kill it before they notice.......... lol easy right? xD | ||
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DNB
Finland995 Posts
This is QQ post, yes, but I've the only times I can win zerg if they make some very stupid mistakes, and even then I get insults from them how my race is somehow extremely overpowered. Who wants to play like that..? | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On June 22 2011 06:30 OmniEulogy wrote: worked for MMA? Its simple too, just fly the medivac through the muta swarm unscathed, then land next to the tech and kill it before they notice.......... lol easy right? xD mma has superhuman medivacs with speedupgrades. normal humans medivacs die to mutas. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Archvil3
Denmark989 Posts
It begins heavily terran favored where the terran in almost every aspect got the upper hand. We, the zerg, have learned to deal with it though. It did take awhile, it did require a few patches and a lot of zerg tears but any experienced zerg have learned to deal with the first 10 minutes of every matchup. We struggle but we survive. It is up to the terran to do the damage though. The stronger the zerg enters the midgame the harder it is for the terran. No excuses though, you have every oppertunity to wound the zerg. As we enter the midgame I find it to be the most skillbased and fun matchup. Lots of multitasking is required from both sides and you are promptly rewarded for your horrasment whether that be mutas or dropships while at the same time errors can be critical. Again this apply to both the zerg and the terran. Skill, not race, dominates the midgame. Lategame, if the zerg is in a powerfull position where they stop droning, stop teching and only replenish armies continualy and they are at least 1 base up on the terran, the game turns into the zergs favor. It's pretty tough to deal with but I think the terran had every opertunity to end the game or delay and prevent this scenario. Instead of working on your lategame when it's pretty much checkmate, work on everything up to that point. Be more relentless in your horassment. Hurt the zerg. Dont let them get that position cause this is when the swarm is taking over! | ||
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Zinjil
United States166 Posts
Basically my point is that terrans should go into the game with the mindset my mom always told me to have when dealing with animals: "Remember, they're just as scared of you as you are of them. Be confident and authoritative and you'll be fine". | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
Here is something that helps ppl to get into the right mind set when playing sc2. Fake arrogant is from insecurity, it looks something like this, "i'm so much better than X, if not for Y there is no way I will lose ever" Then hides behind this Ego and never improve on anything, because he thinks there is nothing should be needed to work on since he's the best. Real arrogant looks like this "I'm so good, it doesn't matter what kinds of advantage you have i will own you with all the odds stack against me." And when someone with real arrogant loses, he will go back to the drawing board to make sure he doesn't lose the same way again and come back again the next day to insert his arrogance into his victims. He will let his pwnage do the talking. usually the truly arrogant one are playing random and announce their race each game, and if you manage to take a game off him in one particular match up, he will re-match you with that match up in order to show you you can't even have a positive win ratio with one of his 9 match ups. In his mind it is not ok to even lose out on a single match up. When someone with real arrogance meets someone spouting fake arrogant, they will challenge them to 1vs1 in the mirror match up with a one worker handicap, and proceed to try their hardest to win. Now that is insufferable arrogance. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:28 LuckyFool wrote: mma has superhuman medivacs with speedupgrades. normal humans medivacs die to mutas. I clicked on your blog looking for TvZ rage and surprise surprise it's the last thing. June 11th :D | ||
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