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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 03:33 GMT
#1
hey folks, i don't contribute much here other than trying to win arguments in the general forum, and i figured that there's probably a new batch of kids that'll be heading to college who might have some questions, so ask away TL!

i can answer general questions about college, specific questions about english comp, any questions about the sexy world of graduate english studies, or anything else that's relevant. let 'em rip!

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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 03:42:37
June 15 2011 03:41 GMT
#2
How angry are you when incoming freshmen don't have stylish cursive?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 03:50 GMT
#3
On June 15 2011 12:41 sob3k wrote:
How angry are you when incoming freshmen don't have stylish cursive?


quoi?
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17058 Posts
June 15 2011 03:52 GMT
#4
He was being facetious :X

In any case, all freshmen at my school had to take a mandatory writing class. I've never been so horrified to find that some people literally still don't know basic conventions of English grammar and syntax.

(to be fair, he was an engineer).
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 04:00 GMT
#5
there is some degree of disaster management with students who don't know/ignored learning basic grammar, but in my experience it's less bad than i was expecting. there are lot of engineers in my classes who i know don't give a semblance of a crap about my class, so fighting off apathy is harder than anything else
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 15 2011 04:11 GMT
#6
Yeah, that must be the discouraging thing about teaching classes that lots of people have to take, that's outside their majors.

I never had to take a freshman-type English comp class because of AP Eng Lit+Lang credits, but most people I knew did not like them so much. Most of those people were probably engineers who didn't give a semblance of a crap about the class though. Writing is important for everybody though, so they really should be caring.

Have you ever had international students?
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 04:15 GMT
#7
On June 15 2011 13:11 Myrmidon wrote:
Yeah, that must be the discouraging thing about teaching classes that lots of people have to take, that's outside their majors.

I never had to take a freshman-type English comp class because of AP Eng Lit+Lang credits, but most people I knew did not like them so much. Most of those people were probably engineers who didn't give a semblance of a crap about the class though. Writing is important for everybody though, so they really should be caring.

Have you ever had international students?


usually about a third of every class is international students/ELL students (english language learners), they create some unique challenges for the class but aren't really a huge detriment depending on how well they speak english. i've always wanted to ask my korean students if they play BW, but am afraid that might be racial profiling, haha.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 04:23:03
June 15 2011 04:22 GMT
#8
When I was a freshmen the class I had the most fun with was an intro English comp class . I still think writing is tedious trying to organize everything, but when you finish its nice to have a product that you could call your work. Also I don't know about the other people in my class but I enjoyed the writing we read in class too.

Just curious, how do you approach teaching your class generally as in your plan. Also is there any writers whose works you usually make your students read in class?
ils
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 04:28 GMT
#9
On June 15 2011 13:22 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
When I was a freshmen the class I had the most fun with was an intro English comp class . I still think writing is tedious trying to organize everything, but when you finish its nice to have a product that you could call your work. Also I don't know about the other people in my class but I enjoyed the writing we read in class too.

Just curious, how do you approach teaching your class generally as in your plan. Also is there any writers whose works you usually make your students read in class?


the class is mainly an application of the zone of proximal development concept in that we start with small, basic writing assignments and develop into more complicated writing tasks. at the beginning of the class, students will be writing papers that are just a basic rhetorical analysis and by the end are writing a full-fledged research paper. it's pretty cool how well scaffolding assignments that way can work.

i've had my students read a wide variety of things, but recently i've been having a lot of success teaching some of the essays by David Foster Wallace. students have really responded to his humor/writing excellence. i tried making the class hard in the beginning and taught foucault and other things about surveillance societies, but i wised up to that quickly
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
June 15 2011 04:37 GMT
#10
Any chance you could post some funny papers? Always love reading a bad/ridiculous freshman paper.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#11
On June 15 2011 13:37 Sinensis wrote:
Any chance you could post some funny papers? Always love reading a bad/ridiculous freshman paper.


contractually obligated not to there have been some real gems, though. i've read three papers about twilight..
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
June 15 2011 04:43 GMT
#12
My freshman writing class was amazing (my professor was a super hot 30 year old woman who played WoW..), and she only gave us one assignment for the whole semester.. And I wrote it one Starcraft.. Love you Ms. Olivia! Anyways, have you ever been inspired by a student's writing? Kind of like a Good Will Hunting scenario?
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 04:47 GMT
#13
On June 15 2011 13:43 Endymion wrote:
My freshman writing class was amazing (my professor was a super hot 30 year old woman who played WoW..), and she only gave us one assignment for the whole semester.. And I wrote it one Starcraft.. Love you Ms. Olivia! Anyways, have you ever been inspired by a student's writing? Kind of like a Good Will Hunting scenario?


not sure if i've necessarily been inspired by a student's writing, but there have been plenty of students who have impressed the hell out of me and i've written them glowing letters of recommendation. it's nice to be a part of seeing a student succeed for sure
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17058 Posts
June 15 2011 05:03 GMT
#14
What's your stance on Alain de Botton, by the way?
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 05:10 GMT
#15
On June 15 2011 14:03 Empyrean wrote:
What's your stance on Alain de Botton, by the way?


can't say i've come across him too much, what should i have a stance on? in general i think it's okay for people to make philosophy more approachable if it doesn't stop there. hopefully it inspires people to read the philosophers he writes about
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 05:14:12
June 15 2011 05:10 GMT
#16
On June 15 2011 13:28 benjammin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 13:22 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
When I was a freshmen the class I had the most fun with was an intro English comp class . I still think writing is tedious trying to organize everything, but when you finish its nice to have a product that you could call your work. Also I don't know about the other people in my class but I enjoyed the writing we read in class too.

Just curious, how do you approach teaching your class generally as in your plan. Also is there any writers whose works you usually make your students read in class?

i tried making the class hard in the beginning and taught foucault and other things about surveillance societies, but i wised up to that quickly

The part I enjoyed most about my English comp class was stuff like that actually haha. I think my ideas of a fun class are different from most people... I remember when my instructor gave out sheets to write about ourselves, in the section written tell me something about yourself I wrote I competitively play a real time strategy computer game called Starcraft lol. Too bad he didn't say anything about it.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 05:55:33
June 15 2011 05:55 GMT
#17
On June 15 2011 14:10 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 13:28 benjammin wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:22 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
When I was a freshmen the class I had the most fun with was an intro English comp class . I still think writing is tedious trying to organize everything, but when you finish its nice to have a product that you could call your work. Also I don't know about the other people in my class but I enjoyed the writing we read in class too.

Just curious, how do you approach teaching your class generally as in your plan. Also is there any writers whose works you usually make your students read in class?

i tried making the class hard in the beginning and taught foucault and other things about surveillance societies, but i wised up to that quickly

The part I enjoyed most about my English comp class was stuff like that actually haha. I think my ideas of a fun class are different from most people... I remember when my instructor gave out sheets to write about ourselves, in the section written tell me something about yourself I wrote I competitively play a real time strategy computer game called Starcraft lol. Too bad he didn't say anything about it.


it's always a hard balance between how much you can challenge students so that they're interested and not become overwhelmed and skipping readings. i'm sure that says more about me as a teacher, though. i think next year i'll ramp up the difficulty, but i'd rather have students participating and engaged. it ain't easy
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17058 Posts
June 15 2011 08:54 GMT
#18
Are the writing courses themed at all? At my school freshmen had the choice of choosing between 25 or so themed writing seminars. I ended up choosing one on urban planning, civic engineering, and how "space" relates to our daily lives. It was quite interesting.
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 15 2011 09:32 GMT
#19
On June 15 2011 17:54 Empyrean wrote:
Are the writing courses themed at all? At my school freshmen had the choice of choosing between 25 or so themed writing seminars. I ended up choosing one on urban planning, civic engineering, and how "space" relates to our daily lives. It was quite interesting.


yep! each instructor gets to construct his or her own theme for the class. we assign a sort of textbook for the class that contains a variety of readings, but instructors are free to choose their own content. basically, everything is in service of a set of goals that every class tries to accomplish, and you're free to use whatever content you think can best do that. i've done a class on foucault and power, one on the intelligent design debate, and one on literary collage and argumentation. coming up with how to teach the material you want is one of the most fun parts of the job.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17058 Posts
June 15 2011 11:14 GMT
#20
Is there anyone in college who still tries to argue for intelligent design? :<
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