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Is Starcraft 2 not meant for some people? - Page 2

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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 17:02:12
June 13 2011 16:58 GMT
#21
If you don't feel good playing strangers that cheese you, play with friends you know won't cheese. Easy solution, works perfect and solves all your problems. Eventually you might get bored playing the same games over and over and will seek the adrenalin that is being cheesed yet again, until then you're safe. Competition can be fun, but if you take it too seriously it can only do you harm. There's nothing wrong with you, I know I felt the same way and many people did also. The good thing is you can avoid it, so do it. Good luck & have fun.
En Taro Violet
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
June 13 2011 16:59 GMT
#22
Anyways, to be more specific, I am not suggesting you try BW because it is a better game (imo it is, not that SC2 isn't still a good game with an exciting scene but all of this is beside the point), I am suggesting you try BW because "being annoyed even when you win" is the exact feeling that a lot of people who were into BW when SC2 came out get when they try to play SC2 and based on that I am guessing you might enjoy BW more.
brood war for life, brood war forever
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
June 13 2011 17:08 GMT
#23
Starcraft 2 shouldn't be meant for me, because my computer is below specs and the late game is basically a slideshow. Imagine trying to macro but being unable to select a probe because of lag (I know I could box them all but I don't want to accidentally send them all away from mining). My APM is around 40 because my computer won't let me go any higher.

I suspect that I would be much better if I could just have a better computer, but I can't afford one (I pay for my own university and it is $5600+ every 4 months plus living expenses). I play it a LOT though, but I'm enjoying the game below the level that I could enjoy it at.

Life is not about making due with what you have; it's about finding out just how much you can achieve. Never settle for anything less than the best. - - - Read my blog!
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
June 13 2011 17:17 GMT
#24
too be honest...as great of a game as bw is, I wouldnt really recommend it if you are particularly prone to frustration and rage...

I have been trying to train myself to be more calm when playing. This may seem like a trite suggestion and maybe it is not true of most people, but I have found that simply listening to music I like while playing allows me to be significantly calmer. Give it a try if you haven't already.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
vlaric
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States412 Posts
June 13 2011 17:26 GMT
#25
Try out Super Smash Bros Melee. It's pretty competitive and I can't think of an instance where I was frustrated when playing against another person. Of course, it's super fun as well, and a great game to play with your friends, especially when you get into the more advanced ways of playing.

But anyway, I think anyone can be good at SC2. Even people with severe physical handicaps have proven to be able to play the game at a 'decent' level in the eyes of the SC2 community, so I believe it's only a matter of gaining more patience with the game and taking your losses less to heart and more as learning experiences, which is way easier said than done in a game like SC2. Really, though, if you're getting frustrated with SC2 try out the BW ladder; you don't have silly ladder placements to worry about because you're completely aware that a Korean is out there waiting to stomp you any second now, so you spend more of your time learning and enjoying the game instead of becoming angry at the fact that your W/L ratio or ladder placement is in jeopardy.
Wannabe zerg player
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
June 13 2011 17:32 GMT
#26
On June 14 2011 02:17 sheaRZerg wrote:
too be honest...as great of a game as bw is, I wouldnt really recommend it if you are particularly prone to frustration and rage...

I have been trying to train myself to be more calm when playing. This may seem like a trite suggestion and maybe it is not true of most people, but I have found that simply listening to music I like while playing allows me to be significantly calmer. Give it a try if you haven't already.

That depends on the nature of the frustrating and rage! If you are frustrated with not being able to play well, yes, BW might not be for you. If you are frustrated because your wins feel unrewarding, quite the opposite.
brood war for life, brood war forever
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
June 13 2011 17:54 GMT
#27
On June 14 2011 01:56 Naeroon wrote:
Sad to see BW folks incapable of offering discussion beyond sub-1 sentence trolling.


it's not trolling, ppl suggest bw because the game actually rewards being good and gives much more gratification and satisfaction even with losses, which the op is looking for. that stuffs should be implied when you see bw suggestion.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
June 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#28
My fiancee told me I should teach her how to play Starcraft 2 so she can play with me and a couple of friends. I gave her 'that look'. She can barely handle Magicka. Would make for an interesting experiment, though: "Can I get my Fiancee out of Bronze league?"
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
June 13 2011 18:49 GMT
#29
On June 14 2011 03:30 Bibdy wrote:
My fiancee told me I should teach her how to play Starcraft 2 so she can play with me and a couple of friends. I gave her 'that look'. She can barely handle Magicka. Would make for an interesting experiment, though: "Can I get my Fiancee out of Bronze league?"


I don't know, if I were in that situation, I'd probably respond that it's a difficult game to learn but if she feels she really wants to, I'd be happy to help. I'd start by pointing her at the single player campaign and then trying some games against the AI on Easy.

This can end one of a few ways: 1) She gets into it, gets frustrated, and stops. 2) She gets good enough at it that you can find some ways to have fun together that don't require that she be that great, like 2v2. 3) She gets as good or better than you are, it consumes all of her time, and you wind up thinking "How could she ever have handled dating a Starcraft player?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 19:14:04
June 13 2011 19:00 GMT
#30
When i play bw i am never annoyed even if i lose a lot (which i do) so winning becomes even more epic than it is. Try out BW

hmm

when i play BW i am always like, damn this guy was just better gg

in sc2 idk, maybe everyone thinks that he is better than the opponent - by the default, maybe we all think like "i am the best" when we play ladder, that makes us rage when we lose

ofc when we play pro we are not raging cuz we know he is better but when playing ladder which makes us play "equal" skilled players we dont want to admit that he was just playin better... this or the game is just so random :D
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 13 2011 19:12 GMT
#31
maybe your mechanics arent good enough,
broodwar (though a better game) was frustrating as fuck when you knew you could do better but were just too slow at multitasking!
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
June 13 2011 19:32 GMT
#32
On June 14 2011 01:56 Naeroon wrote:
Sad to see BW folks incapable of offering discussion beyond sub-1 sentence trolling.

Legitimate discussions involving BW/referring to BW are considered trolling now?

Wow.
ppp
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
June 13 2011 20:49 GMT
#33
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm not too bothered by the BW responses because it was my mistake for baiting you guys in for the troll.

haha

I played BW myself and had long practice sessions with my B- friend who rofl stomp me 30 - 0. It really is true, its fun even if you lose in BW. You don't get that in SC2, and in my case I don't even have fun when I win. I just don't play BW because I want to get somewhere competitively, because as we all know its practically impossible to even get B- unless you've been playing for the past decade.

I'm still unsure of what to do... Because when you really love a game like SC2 and then start realizing the possibility of the game not being the right one for you to play is really painful. Plus the problem about taking a break from the game is that I'll get even worse as time goes by. So it's either I figure my shit out or quit the game completely.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
June 13 2011 21:23 GMT
#34
No. Anyone can play this game. It just asks for patience and focus.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 13 2011 21:42 GMT
#35
On June 14 2011 01:56 Naeroon wrote:
Sad to see BW folks incapable of offering discussion beyond sub-1 sentence trolling.


I see what you did there. ._.

Getting right to the point, I play both still and I have to agree. I do find more gratification when I snipe science vessels with scourge or kill an entire army of medics and marines with hold position lurkers just like terran loves to turn goons into blue goo. In SC2, they only added banelings, fungal, force fields and usually banelings are the ones getting most of the excitement.

So the guy doesn't like the strategies in SC2. Big whoop. Brood War isn't a bad suggestion considering it is what every RTS should strive for.
Naeroon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada166 Posts
June 14 2011 00:27 GMT
#36
There was no legitimate discussion about BW? I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed. But the man was asking about Starcraft 2, he never ever mentioned BW. And then several BW folks came along and started telling him he wasn't enjoying himself because he was playing the wrong game. I mean seriously,

On June 14 2011 00:09 FlydRaLiSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 00:01 Snuggles wrote:
...it is pretty much the best competitive game out there right now. I love following the tournaments, I love watching myself improve, and most of all I love all the competition around it. No other game has the following that SC2 has right now...


Broodwar


Exact example of what I was talking about.

On June 14 2011 01:22 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 00:09 FlydRaLiSK wrote:
On June 14 2011 00:01 Snuggles wrote:
...it is pretty much the best competitive game out there right now. I love following the tournaments, I love watching myself improve, and most of all I love all the competition around it. No other game has the following that SC2 has right now...


Broodwar


QFT

Brood War for life, don't be saying no thing you don't know anything about. Sc2 is cool and all, but don't go around claiming it's the best competitive game out there and that there is no copetition in the scene like it, that's just not right man. Plus you'll get BW lovers like me to derail the thread lol Sorry, but I gotta stand up for my game brah.


COMPLETELY off-topic, the dude is looking for help and this man just came in to argue about how he is so totally wrong in his opinion on the best RTS.

On June 14 2011 01:47 Black[CAT] wrote:
LOL at SC2 is best competitive game "out there"..I facepalm'd...And I came into the starcraft scene due to hearing SC2 coming out...
Dragoon's death sound is more awesome! I love hearing them saying "Fuck you"(is that what they actually says? Cant really figure out whats its saying....) before they dies..


What does any of this have to do with what the man was discussing? There is no BW discussion, people decided to hop onto this thread to derail it. You cannot defend this by saying it was some sort of legitimate BW discussion and not an obvious derailing.

Crunchums was the one I was referring to in my post you chose to quote. If that isn't true to what I
described, then what is?
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 14 2011 00:58 GMT
#37
Lol...I'm a BW fanboy too, but it's kind of sad how badly you guys have derailed this perfectly honest blog.

Anyway, OP, I know exactly how you feel, and it's largely a sign of you being that invested into the game. I'd just take breaks away from the game if I were you, or try to cut down for a bit. Don't be impatient about improving and take days long breaks if you have to.

Unless you're aiming to become pro, there's nothing worse than no longer having fun with a game.
Hello
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
June 14 2011 01:00 GMT
#38
If someone were to start a blog...
So I was just walking home past some typically annoying Hispanic guys when...
Don't you think that people would want to talk about that? No matter what he says after that?
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
June 14 2011 03:35 GMT
#39
On June 14 2011 05:49 Snuggles wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm not too bothered by the BW responses because it was my mistake for baiting you guys in for the troll.

haha

I played BW myself and had long practice sessions with my B- friend who rofl stomp me 30 - 0. It really is true, its fun even if you lose in BW. You don't get that in SC2, and in my case I don't even have fun when I win. I just don't play BW because I want to get somewhere competitively, because as we all know its practically impossible to even get B- unless you've been playing for the past decade.

I'm still unsure of what to do... Because when you really love a game like SC2 and then start realizing the possibility of the game not being the right one for you to play is really painful. Plus the problem about taking a break from the game is that I'll get even worse as time goes by. So it's either I figure my shit out or quit the game completely.

What do you mean by "get somewhere competitively" ?
brood war for life, brood war forever
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 03:51:12
June 14 2011 03:48 GMT
#40
You need to win a comeback game. There is no greater satisfaction in gaming. very exhilarating
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
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