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hpaul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 21:13:24
May 30 2011 21:13 GMT
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I'm Wolfie and I'm trying to get over my ladder fright. So here's one of the games I played, for you guys. Read the first blog post for info on what I'm doing here.


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VOD on Blip.tv (I wish I could embed the video here)


The first game in this trial is a win for me. So unfortunately I'm not able to analyze the video as much as I'd want. But there's a decent amount of stuff right here.

What Happened?

The first thing I notice is the second pylon gets late again. This really shouldn't happen. If it goes down after the gas finishes, it's late. It was late again. Another supply block happens with the third pylon. *sigh*

I wanted to expand pretty early on, since I started floating money. I didn't have the guts, though, because the zerg was only in one base, so I was expecting a strong 1-base push. I noticed my scouting probe getting taken out, so I knew something happened, but didn't really react to it that much. He was pushing out with 8 roaches against my 2 zealots, 2 sentries and 6 stalkers. At the time, however, he had 11, and more on the way, and I feel like if he would have gathered everything and just committed, he would've done a lot of damage, but he just turned away. Because he turned away, I dared to take my expo, since I guessed he wouldn't attack me any time soon.

All this time I was worried about his expansions. Did he have a hidden base somewhere? So I tried to scout one, but he didn't have one. Since I was on two bases, and he was on only one, I figured that I had a good chance to just kill him. I moved out with a stalker heavy ball and he left once I arrived to his newfound expansion.

What Were My Greatest and Worst Things In the Game?

I'm very proud of my scouting in this game, but the floating minerals were embarrassing. I knew during the game that they were floating, but not by as much as they did.

What Could've Made Things Go The Other Way?

I was floating a lot of money at times, because I had only four gates and a robo. I sometimes do this - forget to build enough production to saturate two bases. Also, I only had 37 probes on two bases, which is too few for two bases. I often forget to build more probes once I've saturated one base.

The zerg didn't float much money, but he had only 19 drones on his one base all this time (he got 20+ once he expanded). So if the zerg just would've droned up properly and expanded in a timely fashion, he could've killed me pretty easily, thanks to my poor production.

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FluffySquirrel
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland5 Posts
May 31 2011 05:50 GMT
#2
Awesome. Very nicely done. Small supply blocks here and there. Probe production was good. Nice poking into the base with your probe all the time to see what's up, but you should have scouted the other exp's a lot earlier to see if he had some ninja bases.

The biggest problem in your game in my opinion was your tech. You saw a zerg one-base(!). In my book that can mean only two things - either he is planning the win game soon with either tech or mass units or he just has a really bad macro. Thankfully he wasn't the finest player out there. I would have expected some tech out of him and prepared myself against it. With that amount of Roaches, burrow for one should have changed the battle completely and a much earlier observer or cannon at the ramp would have helped against that. Another option for him would have gone early muta, where you really would have needed blink. Blink would also have helped in about any tech path that he could have taken.

All in all, nicely done. You probescouted well and moved out when you were ahead, so nice strategic solutions.
hpaul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland32 Posts
May 31 2011 06:58 GMT
#3
Thanks for the awesome reply!

I guess I don't have the required experience yet to connect the counter-dots. As stated, I was afraid of something funky going on, but I didn't know what I'd need to do, specifically. I just macroed. So, you're absolutely right, I should've done "something", because a flock of 20 mutas would've just manhandled me.

The ninja expansion didn't occur to me before I actually started scouting to me. My voice fluctuates a whole lot, thanks to my headset, but I did have an "oh, right, damn"-moment once I remembered that he might've had a ninja base.

Not trying to give excuses, just explaining what happens in my head.
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