• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:21
CEST 08:21
KST 15:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War435.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202621Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War [ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror TL Sidebar missing streams Bot on ladder Repalyzer - replay analysis app for StarCraft: Rem
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9518 users

Game 1: PvZ on Slag Pits [Win]

Blogs > hpaul
Post a Reply
hpaul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 21:13:24
May 30 2011 21:13 GMT
#1
[image loading]

I'm Wolfie and I'm trying to get over my ladder fright. So here's one of the games I played, for you guys. Read the first blog post for info on what I'm doing here.


Replay
VOD on Blip.tv (I wish I could embed the video here)


The first game in this trial is a win for me. So unfortunately I'm not able to analyze the video as much as I'd want. But there's a decent amount of stuff right here.

What Happened?

The first thing I notice is the second pylon gets late again. This really shouldn't happen. If it goes down after the gas finishes, it's late. It was late again. Another supply block happens with the third pylon. *sigh*

I wanted to expand pretty early on, since I started floating money. I didn't have the guts, though, because the zerg was only in one base, so I was expecting a strong 1-base push. I noticed my scouting probe getting taken out, so I knew something happened, but didn't really react to it that much. He was pushing out with 8 roaches against my 2 zealots, 2 sentries and 6 stalkers. At the time, however, he had 11, and more on the way, and I feel like if he would have gathered everything and just committed, he would've done a lot of damage, but he just turned away. Because he turned away, I dared to take my expo, since I guessed he wouldn't attack me any time soon.

All this time I was worried about his expansions. Did he have a hidden base somewhere? So I tried to scout one, but he didn't have one. Since I was on two bases, and he was on only one, I figured that I had a good chance to just kill him. I moved out with a stalker heavy ball and he left once I arrived to his newfound expansion.

What Were My Greatest and Worst Things In the Game?

I'm very proud of my scouting in this game, but the floating minerals were embarrassing. I knew during the game that they were floating, but not by as much as they did.

What Could've Made Things Go The Other Way?

I was floating a lot of money at times, because I had only four gates and a robo. I sometimes do this - forget to build enough production to saturate two bases. Also, I only had 37 probes on two bases, which is too few for two bases. I often forget to build more probes once I've saturated one base.

The zerg didn't float much money, but he had only 19 drones on his one base all this time (he got 20+ once he expanded). So if the zerg just would've droned up properly and expanded in a timely fashion, he could've killed me pretty easily, thanks to my poor production.

*
I'm awesome. But you're awesomer.
FluffySquirrel
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland5 Posts
May 31 2011 05:50 GMT
#2
Awesome. Very nicely done. Small supply blocks here and there. Probe production was good. Nice poking into the base with your probe all the time to see what's up, but you should have scouted the other exp's a lot earlier to see if he had some ninja bases.

The biggest problem in your game in my opinion was your tech. You saw a zerg one-base(!). In my book that can mean only two things - either he is planning the win game soon with either tech or mass units or he just has a really bad macro. Thankfully he wasn't the finest player out there. I would have expected some tech out of him and prepared myself against it. With that amount of Roaches, burrow for one should have changed the battle completely and a much earlier observer or cannon at the ramp would have helped against that. Another option for him would have gone early muta, where you really would have needed blink. Blink would also have helped in about any tech path that he could have taken.

All in all, nicely done. You probescouted well and moved out when you were ahead, so nice strategic solutions.
hpaul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland32 Posts
May 31 2011 06:58 GMT
#3
Thanks for the awesome reply!

I guess I don't have the required experience yet to connect the counter-dots. As stated, I was afraid of something funky going on, but I didn't know what I'd need to do, specifically. I just macroed. So, you're absolutely right, I should've done "something", because a flock of 20 mutas would've just manhandled me.

The ninja expansion didn't occur to me before I actually started scouting to me. My voice fluctuates a whole lot, thanks to my headset, but I did have an "oh, right, damn"-moment once I remembered that he might've had a ninja base.

Not trying to give excuses, just explaining what happens in my head.
I'm awesome. But you're awesomer.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 304
sorry 65
Mind 64
Bale 33
ZergMaN 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm183
League of Legends
JimRising 725
Other Games
summit1g7877
Coldzera 722
WinterStarcraft653
C9.Mang0318
Sick153
febbydoto22
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick698
BasetradeTV176
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2168
League of Legends
• Rush1483
Other Games
• Shiphtur634
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
3h 40m
Rex vs INexorable
GgMaChine vs HeRoMaRinE
Reynor vs herO
Online Event
5h 40m
AI Arena Tournament
10h 40m
BSL: Ladder Tournament
12h 40m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
Patches Events
1d 8h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 12h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 12h
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
5 days
Online Event
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs Soulkey
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.