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I tried the Bisu Build

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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
May 06 2011 20:32 GMT
#1
and i failed at it. I think even Bisu himself would frown upon my horrid attempt at his build.

in my defense the zerg won with guardians and queens, and the bisu build does not have too many counters againt it. also i did well in terms of macro up to the 6-7 minute mark. but after that it all fell apart. I miss micro'd my cosairs and they all died without taking a single overlord. after that i just started puming ranodm units to try and counter the lurkers, but stupid me forgot the obs. so i died to them all.


I did better than i orignally though though, and it was a fun game. but i just don't have the apm, nor did i scout enough to counter whatever he was doing.

oh well, off to another game, and another loss

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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 20:35:14
May 06 2011 20:34 GMT
#2
I thought bisu play had easy access to sairs which denies guardian and queen play (queens can ensnare though).

The trick is the keep your corsairs alive and not lose them to scourge. Losing the first sair too early can mean the game for you.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
May 06 2011 20:38 GMT
#3
Hahaha, read the liquipedia and practice it man. You'll get better. A quick thing I want to point out, though,

"I mis-micro'd my corsairs and they all died without taking a single overlord."
This is a problem in your mentality. Your early corsairs are primarily for scouting, and then for defending against mutalisks, and then finally for killing overlords. Overlord hunting should be your absolute last priority. If both of you performed your openings without mistakes, you should have time to kill one overlord with your first corsair, but that's about it.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 06 2011 20:40 GMT
#4
Bisu Build doesn't really allow Zerg to get to Guardians is the trick
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 06 2011 21:25 GMT
#5
On May 07 2011 05:38 DTK-m2 wrote:
Hahaha, read the liquipedia and practice it man. You'll get better. A quick thing I want to point out, though,

"I mis-micro'd my corsairs and they all died without taking a single overlord."
This is a problem in your mentality. Your early corsairs are primarily for scouting, and then for defending against mutalisks, and then finally for killing overlords. Overlord hunting should be your absolute last priority. If both of you performed your openings without mistakes, you should have time to kill one overlord with your first corsair, but that's about it.


Overlords are not necessary and if you ever watch pro games they usually just lose 1 before scourge chase them all the way back home. But on lower levels you can kill a lot of overlords though. And where are the mention of DTS T___T

Thats like half of the bisu build right there!
Jaedong :3
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
May 06 2011 21:41 GMT
#6
I had the dt's too. But to my suprise he had his overlord there beforehand. I am suspecting he knew the build i was doing before i got the dt's
~_~
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada239 Posts
May 06 2011 22:02 GMT
#7
i thought all the bisu build required was to build a pylon?
Herro_Korea
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
310 Posts
May 06 2011 22:16 GMT
#8
DTs and Sairs should keep him in base, meanwhile you should take 3rd and get HTs with storm to deffend, thats basic idea of this build. 4-5, maybe 6 sairs with +1 and 2 dts moving where you kill overlords. It's really hard to pull off.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 06 2011 22:24 GMT
#9
On May 07 2011 06:41 masterbreti wrote:
I had the dt's too. But to my suprise he had his overlord there beforehand. I am suspecting he knew the build i was doing before i got the dt's

It doesn't really cost the Zerg anything to keep an overlord around every expo for detection. If he knew it were coming he'd have gotten a spore so that you couldn't just kill it.

glgl enjoy starcraft
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.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
May 06 2011 22:27 GMT
#10
On May 07 2011 07:02 ~_~ wrote:
i thought all the bisu build required was to build a pylon?


Truth.

What's so hard about building a pylon at the nat wtfbad?
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 06 2011 22:32 GMT
#11
did you use the bisu build expansion pack with the +1 zealot timing attack?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 23:22:58
May 06 2011 23:22 GMT
#12
Bisu build listed on Liquipedia is really outdated, so you should just ignore it.. I plan on writing up a guide on the updated iteration of Sair/DT for modern PvZ play, once I find the time to research the specific details
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
May 07 2011 00:08 GMT
#13
On May 07 2011 07:32 kainzero wrote:
did you use the bisu build expansion pack with the +1 zealot timing attack?

The neo +1 sair/speedlot attack is the newest and best expansion yet
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 07 2011 01:11 GMT
#14
Does anyone actually know what the Bisu build means? Is it sair/DT? Just the Forge FE itself? The +1 zealot attack? People toss the word around more than "metagame" or "imbalanced" it seems...
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
May 07 2011 01:15 GMT
#15
On May 07 2011 10:11 xxpack09 wrote:
Does anyone actually know what the Bisu build means? Is it sair/DT? Just the Forge FE itself? The +1 zealot attack? People toss the word around more than "metagame" or "imbalanced" it seems...


Pylon at nat. Anywhere else and it isn't bisu build.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 07 2011 01:43 GMT
#16
On May 07 2011 10:11 xxpack09 wrote:
Does anyone actually know what the Bisu build means? Is it sair/DT? Just the Forge FE itself? The +1 zealot attack? People toss the word around more than "metagame" or "imbalanced" it seems...

People call every zerg build "5 hat hydra" these days too when that isn't even close to being true. So annoying :|
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Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 07 2011 01:57 GMT
#17
Everyone fails the first time...
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