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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On April 11 2011 04:25 LuckyFool wrote: what about all the people who dont used own3d? :O Most casters use justin.tv, and theres tons of people who use ustream, livestream or even other stuff. bro justin.tv has uses a program that you can set delay... | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On April 11 2011 04:49 Golgotha wrote: bro justin.tv has uses a program that you can set delay... I said in my original post I'm not familiar with streaming sites and if they have delay tools and stuff. That's great news. Now do people actually use it? O_o | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On April 11 2011 04:41 MasterOfChaos wrote: IMO stream hacking makes not much sense. You even leave your IP in the log of the streaming site. You could just put an external maphack on your second monitor and combine it with some alerts on important events. If done correctly that's very hard to detect with antihack tools, and more powerful than streams. I agree with this. If a player has the opportunity to stream cheat then they also have the opportunity to use actual maphacks. Putting your stream on delay or not streaming at all won't stop a map hacker. You just have to hope you're playing trustworthy opponents. Or you just go to LANs | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
dunno about others, but that is why i never let any obs in games where i'm being casted, especially if i barely know the person, because there's that chance they are obsing to cheat/whisper the other person, or to give info to the player in-game via vent while watchin the stream...it's basically impossible to tell when this stuff happens tho.. obviously the people that do it are scum | ||
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Craton
United States17259 Posts
On April 11 2011 04:41 MasterOfChaos wrote: IMO stream hacking makes not much sense. You even leave your IP in the log of the streaming site. Streaming sites aren't going to tell a random tournament that IP xyz was watching during an event, so I don't see how that's relevant. And OP, watching a stream != hacking. The more popular (and accurate) term is ghosting. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Arkansassy
358 Posts
And last night the thought again occurred to me. I mean how difficult would it be? If you're playing for big money, some people would certainly be tempted to cheat. It's a sad thought.  | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On April 11 2011 04:41 MasterOfChaos wrote: IMO stream hacking makes not much sense. You even leave your IP in the log of the streaming site. You could just put an external maphack on your second monitor and combine it with some alerts on important events. If done correctly that's very hard to detect with antihack tools, and more powerful than streams. You can have a friend watching the stream and have him report what is going on to you over skype. There is no way to detect that. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On April 11 2011 06:15 Zlasher wrote: A lot of streamers don't implement the delay since they assume people will be genuine, also they would like to pop open stream chat, ask a question, and have it answered and not wait 8 minutes for it. That is a pretty ignorant/naive assumption. | ||
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Craton
United States17259 Posts
On April 11 2011 06:15 Zlasher wrote: also they would like to pop open stream chat, ask a question, and have it answered and not wait 8 minutes for it. I'd say this is the main reason. It's more enjoyable to talk to viewers while playing than to just be secluded and having delays detracts greatly from that. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On April 11 2011 06:34 Mastermind wrote: That is a pretty ignorant/naive assumption. I don't disagree with this statement. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On April 11 2011 06:42 Craton wrote: I'd say this is the main reason. It's more enjoyable to talk to viewers while playing than to just be secluded and having delays detracts greatly from that. Yeah, I mean the reason a streamer streams sometimes is because they want to interact with their viewers, even if that means people on ladder will turn on their stream and cheat against them. | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
On April 11 2011 06:34 Mastermind wrote: That is a pretty ignorant/naive assumption. I think it's a reasonable assumption. Cheaters can cheat without a stream too. So delaying the stream doesn't gain much in terms of preventing cheating put can lose in terms of interaction with viewers. So the trade-off of delaying the stream can be negative. This is different for games where maphack aren't possible, but in SC2 they are. | ||
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