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How to practice macro + bio play

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MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
April 06 2011 15:36 GMT
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I am a new Terran player, and I need some help working on my macro. I got into silver as Protoss, but switched to Terran because I like the bio style MarineKing does. I have no idea what builds to do, and my macro isn't good enough to do very well with this style. So here is some questions that I'd like to be answered:

1. What is a decent build in each match up? I usually try opening 3 rax expand but I don't know whether to get add ons on those barracks or when to expand with this build.

2. When should I build depots? I know it depends on how much production I have but a lot of the time I think I'd be fine building a depot like ~5 supply from being supply blocked and then more marines/scvs spawn and all of the sudden i'm supply blocked.

3. How to play bio vs Zerg? Most terrans I see do marine/tank but I want to focus on pure bio because when I tried doing siege tanks, leapfrogging them took a lot of my attention and my macro slipped badly.

4. How much supply should I have at 10 minutes in? I watched KawaiiRice's stream the other day, and he's at around 100 supply 10 minutes in. When I play however, I have like 60-70 supply at 10 minutes and I'm even going bio!

5. When to be aggressive. Whenever I go for some early pressure they have way more stuff than what I attack with. This is especially true with zergs. They always seem to have like 20 zerglings waiting for me when I try to pressure them.

If you guys could answer these questions, that would be great.

SiegeMode
Profile Joined August 2010
United States206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 16:09:51
April 06 2011 16:07 GMT
#2
1:
Watch vods and replays! See what the pros do and how they do it, pick one and copy it every game til you understand it.

You can have someone tell you "1rax FE TvP, 1/1/1 TvT, 2rax TvZ" or something but it's better to watch the games and understand.

2:
After the very early game it's impossible to have a set "time to build depots" because your supply will constantly be changing due to units dying as you macro. You just have to practice and get a feel for how fast you need to build them.

3:
Practice your multitask so you can use siege tanks effectively. This is a really important skill.
Don't forget you can queue siege and unsiege commands, so you can D shift+click shift+E to quickly tell a tank to unsiege, move, and siege again, then go back to whatever you were doing.

If you don't have the apm to play with tanks, you don't have the apm to play without them either. You'll need godly marine micro to handle banelings if you don't bring tanks.

Pure bio terran against zerg is not a very good idea. If you're really set on the idea, watch MKP vods I guess.

4:
Watch progamer replays/vods of the builds you're interested in learning. Note their supply at various time points, try to match them. If it's too much for you to handle in a real game yet, practice in something like YABOT first.

5:
The answer to this at silver level is macro better. Never miss a worker, never miss any rax production time, and never get supply blocked. At high level play you start having to know timings, but at low level macro is sufficient.
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
April 06 2011 17:12 GMT
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Recently I've been practicing nothing but pure marine play with LATE upgrades, and it's pretty effective. It requires you to massively outplay your opponent with amazing vision and flanks, but after you figure these things out there is not a lot they can do to stop you. Just bear in mind every game is a war of attrition.
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