EPTThat is what I say to whiners on ladder.
Do you sac overloards?
Do you greedily make nothing but drones and queens?
Do you build 3-4 sunkens?
Do you understand backstab?
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Redunzl
862 Posts
That is what I say to whiners on ladder. Do you sac overloards? Do you greedily make nothing but drones and queens? Do you build 3-4 sunkens? Do you understand backstab? | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
On March 24 2011 09:52 Redunzl wrote: I love your tears OP. That is what I say to whiners on ladder. Do you sac overloards? Do you greedily make nothing but drones and queens? Do you build 3-4 sunkens? Do you understand backstab? yes, no, too late, not useful | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO STOP this and your definition of cheese is bold Bold like this | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
cause you can't 4 gate losers gonna wait in queue, ragin just waitin on wagin another war. don't hate, cause you can't reiterate, my friend I know a flamebait when i see one. that trash you talkin is makin everybody walkin don't hate, cause it's not too late you can still be a pro like me work hard, watch dailies play tough, get ladies just believe in yourself don't hate, the 4-gate when you cryin cheese we all say please respect the game, play strong be noble and you can't go wrong. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
Also note that even if you pull and sac some drones/queen, you'll still be slightly ahead most of the time. One of the worst feelings for a protoss is AFTER a 4-gate fails. | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
Why the fuck do you have 40 workers in 6 Minutes if you are expecting a 4 Gate?? | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:17 Kazzabiss wrote: Well..... seeing as a standard 4 Gate has ~20 Probes give or take, and you have "double the workers" Why the fuck do you have 40 workers in 6 Minutes if you are expecting a 4 Gate?? exaggeration, but its pretty much that many. | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:19 GenesisX wrote: exaggeration, but its pretty much that many. So what you are saying is, that a zerg player will never, ever beat a 4 Gate? Why are there even Zergs in the GSL then? Why did Ret win assembly, IdrA at MLG DC. Surely Protoss have figured out by now that they will win no matter what with a 4 Gate. | ||
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CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:19 GenesisX wrote: exaggeration, but its pretty much that many. Then you're producing too many. You've received good advice in this thread IMO. The tough part about 4gate is just scouting it, but you seem to have a problem regardless, which means you're just doing something wrong. I've also heard it's tough if you guess the unit composition incorrectly but a lot of zergs just seem to want to defend it with pure ling + spine crawlers now regardless of map so idk if thats that much of a challenge anymore. | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:22 Kazzabiss wrote: So what you are saying is, that a zerg player will never, ever beat a 4 Gate? Why are there even Zergs in the GSL then? Why did Ret win assembly, IdrA at MLG DC. Surely Protoss have figured out by now that they will win no matter what with a 4 Gate. theres a reason i called it a RANT, i exaggerated so much in my post because... well I was raging lol Realistically though, its really hard to hold for me especially when Protoss does the "MC cancel nexus 4 gate". I really can see no counter to this because Zergs reaction to seeing an expo is droning up, which is exactly what makes P win to this kind of 4 gate. And yes, sometimes I can't even stop it when I see it coming. Zealot tank + stalker range + sentry ff = death zerg. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk 4gate man. sum gay bullshit der. | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:26 GenesisX wrote: theres a reason i called it a RANT, i exaggerated so much in my post because... well I was raging lol Realistically though, its really hard to hold for me especially when Protoss does the "MC cancel nexus 4 gate". I really can see no counter to this because Zergs reaction to seeing an expo is droning up, which is exactly what makes P win to this kind of 4 gate. And yes, sometimes I can't even stop it when I see it coming. Zealot tank + stalker range + sentry ff = death zerg. Essentially, he's not asking how to stop a 4-gate, he wasnt people to zerg QQ with him. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:31 Wolf wrote: People really need to learn what cheese is. I didn't know standard play was cheese | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:37 hifriend wrote: I'll keep 4 gating for as long as zergs keep assuming 3 gate expand and blindly take super early third with 415423 drones. ^_^ I'll keep 2 gating for as long as zergs keep assuming 1 gate core and blindly 15 hatch. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Every single matchup units knocking at your door From Bronze to Masters league with one build so i'm sure Thats why Protoss is EZ. ^ is from "Why noobs don't get GGd" by Suspense. But yeah, im one of the rare protosses who refuse to 4gate at all. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On March 24 2011 08:57 T.O.P. wrote: I wish protoss players would 4 gate me every game. Instead they like to make unbeatable 200/200 armies. Haha feel the same as well. Even though I hate all ins and love macro games, it's always the macro games that are the hardest to win. Not to say 4 gates aren't hard to hold off, but their far from "impossible." In fact, if you know one's coming, you have an at least 80% chance of winning. Of course it's a micro war, but as long as you don't accidently move(instead of a-moving) your units or something like that, you'll do alright. Just get in the habit of getting an overlord over there in the right position to be able to sac it. If you do know a 4 gate is coming, or are very suspicius of one, then build a roach warren just to be safe. On the longer maps obviously you won't have an overlord ready to be sacced 100% of the time. That would normally be "Ahhhh", but fortunately its also a longer map. You can build a roach warren(if suspicious) and still drone up, and then build units when its time. Things to look for for 4 gate: 1.4 gates. 2.Stalker pops out first 3.One gas(and not getting gas. Try to keep drone alive for this purpose. If he doesn't get gas its the zealot stalker 4 gate, and you need roach warren asap.) 4.Saved chrono. It's all about knowing if its a 4 gate, once you get that settled, its easy. P.S. If you need help beating a 4 gate, or you get 4 gated, then hook me up. I know how cruddy it feels when you get cheesed/all-ined, and trust me I above probably 99% of people HATE HATE HATE all ins. Maybe I can play a couple games against some of these 4 gaters and show you how to hold it off. | ||
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tadL
Croatia679 Posts
1-8 - 4Gate 9-10 - Collossi /Stalker 11 - Air 12 - Caononrush 9,95 bugs for it, it will be amazing. | ||
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