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MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
February 09 2011 20:52 GMT
#41
On February 10 2011 05:47 Enervate wrote:
It's never acceptable, but people make unacceptable actions all the time.


That still doesnt make it right!
yamtaro
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia14 Posts
February 09 2011 20:52 GMT
#42
This is very situational and relationship dependant so its not really a question that can be asked openly. My mother and I are very close but we constantly make comments like this too each other and we both know that its always meant in a jovial manner, thats the way our relationship has always been I can remember being in primary school and my mum explaining to me that I was an accident but she's always meant it in jest and because of our relationship I know that, just like when I make mean spirited comments to her she knows I'm joking.

What I do think this question outlines is the over sensetivity of todays parenting where children are wrapped in cotton wool, houses are made of soft rubber, doors are kept firmly locked to keep away evil people and comments like this are always taken in the worst light possible and people making these comments are pretty much crucified. I grew up playing on rusty old play equipment and the local park, running out of the house at 8am and not coming home untill dinner time covered in cuts, bruises, bike chain grease from yet another pushbike crash... and occasionaly I had fights with my parents. I'm not in an institution, im not roaming the streets preying on people and I'm so damn happy when I look at parenting now days that my parents let me have a childhood.

Stop being so damn sensetive people!
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 09 2011 20:54 GMT
#43
Hitler had parents
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
February 09 2011 20:54 GMT
#44
If there was a genie nearby and the fact that said child not being born prevents the destruction of all of humanity, maybe then, and only if they didnt really mean it :/
Meh.
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
February 09 2011 20:57 GMT
#45
its not ok to say that because it was parent's decision to have you born in the first place.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
February 09 2011 21:06 GMT
#46
On February 10 2011 04:37 Megaliskuu wrote:
If the kid tries to kill his parent..maybe they might say that..otherwise maybe not lol.

I think this is probably one of the only acceptable situations to say it. Or if the kid does kill one parent I think it would be acceptable for the other parent to say it.
Epsilon8
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada173 Posts
February 09 2011 21:08 GMT
#47
It is situational but in most situations this would be wrong to say. It was the parents choice to bring the child into the world, with that comes responsibilities.

Children aren't somehow deserving of less respect.. they should be treated as how everyone else is treated.

You wouldn't say to another human being "I wish you were never born." It's the same thing.
If you wish to travel far and fast, travel light. Take off all your envies, jealousies, unforgiveness, selfishness, and fears.
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
February 09 2011 21:11 GMT
#48
Who cares?

If your parents are cruel enough to say something like that, then why do you care what they think? God, people need to grow some balls. Anyone can say anything to me, and yes, I will be ok.
JadeFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1225 Posts
February 09 2011 21:25 GMT
#49
On February 10 2011 06:11 ToxNub wrote:
Who cares?

If your parents are cruel enough to say something like that, then why do you care what they think? God, people need to grow some balls. Anyone can say anything to me, and yes, I will be ok.

You contradict yourself in your own argument. You describe the parents' actions as cruel but then say it's no big deal? That kids need to grow balls? Sure, a lot of kids could become more confident amongst their peers but relationship between parents and children is another story.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
February 09 2011 21:27 GMT
#50
said in the correct manner yes; reflective on arguments 'there were times after those i wish youd never been born, i look back on those thoughts now and realise how stupid they were/lucky i am/whatever'
that said, i accidentally voted no
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
KangaRuthless
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States304 Posts
February 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#51
Even if you are extremely frustrated with your child, you should never say something that discouraging and hateful.
www.youtube.com/KangaRuthless
Mafs
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada458 Posts
February 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#52
I wish I was never born, Im not a genius, and Im not a godly athletic person either. So whats the point? I just want to help humanity as much as possible. And I dont think I will meet my expectations.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
February 09 2011 21:38 GMT
#53
my parents never said that to me altho i sure got alot of whoop ass beating!
come to think of it, it actually made me a better human disciplined kid i was the most respected kid on the block after months and years of beating.

I wittnessed a parent saying The only reason his kid exist is because he did not use a condom.
That gotta hurt, knowing you were an accident.
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
February 09 2011 21:39 GMT
#54
Well in Cantonese, never heard anyone say it in Mandarin, theres a saying that translates to something similar. Nobody ever takes it as a hateful or cruel comment, it seems common in our culture.

It may sound outrageous for the Westerners but its nothing, just something you were say when you get upset or angry.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
February 09 2011 21:45 GMT
#55
On February 10 2011 06:11 ToxNub wrote:
Who cares?

If your parents are cruel enough to say something like that, then why do you care what they think? God, people need to grow some balls. Anyone can say anything to me, and yes, I will be ok.


Someone's parents didn't love him very much. ^
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
February 09 2011 21:46 GMT
#56
Alright, when a kid says he wishes he was never born, agreeing with them is the last thing you want to say. Please, don't work in a suicide clinic.
There is no cow level
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
February 09 2011 21:48 GMT
#57
This is an absolutely horrible thing to hear. Just a couple weeks ago my friend came back from Virgina and I took him to his mothers house. He was out there doing Rehab at his Father's, now his Mother Screamed Flipped out that he came home to see her. Yelled, Screamed and threatened me for bringing her son home to her. She yelled I wish you had never been born you disgust me. Even though this isn't my mother I have known her for 11+ years the sounds of those words effected me so deeply to hear a mother say this to her son......

I was outraged we tried to just pack up some cloths for him and leave. Though she said that she was going to call the police that we were stealing from her. Just trying to get his cloths packed up... So she does she called the police and we were almost arrested for burglary and trespassing. I had to talk to the cops and explain the entire situation and eventually we were let go. My friend is doing alright now living with some friends of ours.

So OP to answer your question. Under no circumstance would it be alright to even mutter it. The entire situation had a profound effect on me, I will never be able to think of that woman the same way again. Hope this sums it up for you.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 22:01:07
February 09 2011 21:53 GMT
#58
It is never acceptable. It should be "I wish you had never been born."

But that aside... my answer is: usually when that phrase is uttered, it is meant to convey not "I wish you had never been born", but "I feel bad. Right now, you don't meet my expectations. I wish you did, because I think that would make me feel better." so parents aren't aware their children might interpret this as way more 'honest' than it should be given credit for. When it is actually meant and felt and honest,... the question is still if the reason for the parent saying it is somewhat legitimate. Say Mao's father realized what a major dick his son turned out to be. First thing would be to realize he probably failed as a father, second he could tell his son he wished he'd never been born. I would say... that would be both honest and hence legitimate.Final question is if it makes things better if they say it, but that's more a matter of insight rather than moral choice.
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 21:54:33
February 09 2011 21:53 GMT
#59
If you have a legitimate reason to wish they had never been born. For example, if your son is Osama Bin Laden, Adolf Hitler or Piers Morgan.
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
February 09 2011 21:55 GMT
#60
On February 10 2011 05:54 floor exercise wrote:
Hitler had parents


Maybe they said that to him and set the ball rolling...
There is no cow level
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