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Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
February 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#21
Well if your kid was Damien I guess an exception is to be made, otherwise I can't think of a reason why this should be acceptible.
really?
Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
February 09 2011 20:02 GMT
#22
But arguements for it could be: If you're having a heated arguement with your child, if they've deliberately hurt you, if they've said themselves that they wish they were never born, etc.


What? WTF kind of arguments are these?
Hamster
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
February 09 2011 20:05 GMT
#23
worse line a parent can say. f words c words and other words are acceptable but this is worse of the worse and hurts the childs feelings to the maximum without an apology.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 20:10:05
February 09 2011 20:07 GMT
#24
I had actually already written quite a bit, when I realized how simple this is:
The kid is already born. No matter how old/young, stupid, agressive, violent or annoying this kid is, there is no turning back. The kid is out, the point of no return is long gone, and thus nothing good can ever come from a comment like that from a parent. If there are any problems, they should of course be solved somehow, but saying that denifitely isn't the way of doing so.
Also, if the parents ever say that, they should really just wish they, themselves, were never born in the first place.
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FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
February 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#25
What a question is that even oO
This is the last thing a parent should ever say to it's child.
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Jayve
Profile Joined February 2009
155 Posts
February 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#26
On February 10 2011 04:45 Sorkoas wrote:
I'm curious about the reason why you even start this thread, because the answer seems obvious. It's hardly something you can use as a joke, of course. OP you can talk to us, it's ok.


I suppose I'd say this even if it wasn't the case, but no it's not me I'm talking about.

I have a set of completely different complicated issues with my parents. ^^

On February 10 2011 05:02 Pandonetho wrote:
Show nested quote +
But arguements for it could be: If you're having a heated arguement with your child, if they've deliberately hurt you, if they've said themselves that they wish they were never born, etc.


What? WTF kind of arguments are these?


The ones I've heard. As I said, I don't believe there is ANY scenario in which this is okay, but I've heard these.

Thanks for the feedback so far guys. <3
compscidude
Profile Joined December 2010
176 Posts
February 09 2011 20:11 GMT
#27
these words will stick to their childs memory forever.
I still remember some bad things my parents said to me when i was 5 or 6.
still hold grudge againts them for it.
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
February 09 2011 20:15 GMT
#28
If your last name Hitler.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
February 09 2011 20:16 GMT
#29
remind me of that Eminem song where he says that his mom told him that she'd rather had him die than his cousin. Absolutely sick.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
StewKer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States301 Posts
February 09 2011 20:24 GMT
#30
No parent should ever say this to their child, ever. It's just too horrible of a thing to say. Like, wow... almost makes me sick to think of it. Granted my parents and I have a pretty good relationship. Sure there was a time where my dad, during my time in high school where I definitely rebelled, said he was disappointed in my actions, and that hurt (but it got the point across and straightened me out).

A parent should have nothing but love for their children and want the best for them.

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RickOrShay
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand132 Posts
February 09 2011 20:32 GMT
#31
Yeah, this is probably the second last thing a parent should say to their children apart from, bye.
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
February 09 2011 20:35 GMT
#32
Imo, parents who tell their kid that they wish it was never born, fail completely. It is their "fault" that the kid is born and the kids one so imo those parents are just telling themselves how bad they actually are.
I hope I expressed what I wanted to say... :p
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ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
February 09 2011 20:35 GMT
#33
It makes no sense for a parent to say it because it children don't have a choice in whether they want to be born or not.
dbosworld
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States317 Posts
February 09 2011 20:38 GMT
#34
Logically and obviously it would never be "okay." I'm not sure why this is a discussion. What made you ask this?
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 09 2011 20:39 GMT
#35
On February 10 2011 04:37 MidasMulligan wrote:
I think if it were said jokingly, that would be an acceptable scenario.


I can't think of a time where that "joke" would ever be funny. Still unacceptable imo.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
February 09 2011 20:40 GMT
#36
I don't understand why this is even a question. If you mean it, then say it. I don't think its appropriate hyperbole... but If its in earnest, why not?

If My kid was caught trying to fly a plane into a building screaming "F*ck the USA" I'd tell him that and never think twice about it.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
February 09 2011 20:41 GMT
#37
Ideally no one would say mean things at all. It's never "Ok", in my opinion, unless it's in the context of well considered 'tough love'. On the other hand, I wouldn't say anything is arbitrarily unforgivable either - although "I wish you were never born" is pretty strong, you'd want to consider it in its context (what precipitated the statement, how old the child is (if they are old enough to understand that parents get angry and aren't perfect etc).

One quick comment I'd like to make is regarding this idea that parents are solely responsible for how their kid turns out - this is obviously not true at all. After the first few years of a child's life, children are exposed to a dramatically increasing number of external influences, all of which have the potential to impact the maturing process. Even assuming the parents are omniscient with regard to child raising (which is a ludicrous proposition), they still won't have complete control over their children's surroundings/influences (which we can all be thankful for since they are never omniscient), so how could parents possibly be solely, or even largely (except presumably in clear cases of abuse) responsible for how their children turn out?
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
February 09 2011 20:42 GMT
#38
On February 10 2011 05:41 Freyr wrote:
Ideally no one would say mean things at all.



Still don't understand why its not ok to be honest.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
February 09 2011 20:47 GMT
#39
It's never acceptable, but people make unacceptable actions all the time.
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
February 09 2011 20:52 GMT
#40
On February 10 2011 05:42 Crushgroove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 05:41 Freyr wrote:
Ideally no one would say mean things at all.



Still don't understand why its not ok to be honest.


I think it can be okay - like I qualified after that excerpt, in the context of carefully considered "tough love".

I think it does have to be carefully considered, though. For example, if you just tell an obese adult he/she's fat, it is probably not going to help, because the individual is probably already painfully aware of the issue (this may be different for children, who knows). If you agree with that logic, then being honest in that case is just indulging some silly desire to be mean, which in my opinion is not okay. (Or at least, to avoid arbitrary definitions of what is "okay" and why, I just don't like it).
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