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Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
January 28 2011 11:38 GMT
#21
You can give him BWAI, it is more fun to play than default.
sammler
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom381 Posts
January 28 2011 11:50 GMT
#22
Aww that's nice. I bought my 15 year old brother SC2 and the strategy guide. He didn't install it for a month and now only wants to play Rift
"I wish I was good enough to be called bad by IdrA." - Moa
SegataSan
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia17 Posts
January 28 2011 12:02 GMT
#23
On January 28 2011 20:50 sammler wrote:
Aww that's nice. I bought my 15 year old brother SC2 and the strategy guide. He didn't install it for a month and now only wants to play Rift


It's not that odd Sammler. I have a bro-in-law that buys games with immense multiplayer potential, played the limited single player mode/s and then let's the game rot into obscurity on his computer.
"You can make a throne on bayonets, but you can't sit on it" - Boris Yeltsen
N1ghtmare
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany14 Posts
January 28 2011 12:24 GMT
#24
That is cute,...i did startet playing SC as i was 10....thats now 5 years(nearly, i get 15 in a few weeks) and i can remember how it was to lern, but i played against KI and online,i never got into the singel player things,played them mostly with cheats to get the cool story, but nah,thats it.

somewhen iw as actually good.



but i am somone who doesnt frustrate that easy.

do you think beating the crap out of your brother all the time is a good idea to make him want to improve?
it does not always work
Dont worry,the world wont go under today,because on the other side of our planet,its already tomorrow
SegataSan
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia17 Posts
January 28 2011 12:26 GMT
#25
On January 28 2011 21:24 N1ghtmare wrote:
do you think beating the crap out of your brother all the time is a good idea to make him want to improve?
it does not always work


I don't think that's what OP is saying. What he is doing is allowing him to learn from his faults and offering constructive feedback on ways to improve his game. In many ways shouldn't that be a life philosphy also: to review the failings and improve upon them, or to find ways to become better?
"You can make a throne on bayonets, but you can't sit on it" - Boris Yeltsen
N1ghtmare
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany14 Posts
January 28 2011 12:37 GMT
#26
On January 28 2011 21:26 SegataSan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2011 21:24 N1ghtmare wrote:
do you think beating the crap out of your brother all the time is a good idea to make him want to improve?
it does not always work


I don't think that's what OP is saying. What he is doing is allowing him to learn from his faults and offering constructive feedback on ways to improve his game. In many ways shouldn't that be a life philosphy also: to review the failings and improve upon them, or to find ways to become better?



My hope is that my repeatedly crushing him (accompanied by praise of his very real and constant improvement) will motivate him to improve


Thats why i was not sure.


also,if you fail at something,that doesnt quite mean you had a choice,it doesnt quite mean you can actually improve.

THere are peoples on the maximum of theire capabilitys,theyre literally maxed out, its like a supply limted,200 is max,whatever u build for OLs/SDs/Pilons, more tahn 200 is just not possible.

Humans do ahve such a maximum of "W/E" they are doing too, and somewhen you just cannot improve anymore, or atleast not now(maybe because hes to jung,things like this,you know?)

like however the 11 yo brother will improve, even if he will be the best 11 yo on the world,if hes maxed out,he still wouldnt even have a chance against Boxer,because boxer is experiented and also older(not that this would matter,but i was way worse as iw as younger too,althought i played more and was ina better shape....)


hope you understnad what i try to say
Dont worry,the world wont go under today,because on the other side of our planet,its already tomorrow
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 12:46:27
January 28 2011 12:40 GMT
#27
On January 28 2011 21:24 N1ghtmare wrote:
do you think beating the crap out of your brother all the time is a good idea to make him want to improve?
it does not always work

I understand that, but the only way he would beat me right now is if I tried (really REALLY hard) to lose or gave him some absurd handicap and I think that is way less likely to make him want to improve. Every time we've played it's been because he wanted to, and I don't think it'll take very many more games for him to realize "hey I'm just not good enough to beat him right now." That is all I mean when I say "repeatedly crushing him."

Also I am generally more interested in him having fun. At that age I was just dicking around with UMS, there's no reason why he should have to be super competitive and focused on improving. But if he does care about improving I can't deny that that would make me pretty happy.

The best thing would be to find other people around his level for him to play with but that is a difficult task.

edit: I understand what you are saying, but I doubt that is actually a limitation for him; he is so inexperienced both in terms of strategy and mechanics that he has a long way to go before he hits any innate limit.
brood war for life, brood war forever
SegataSan
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 12:42:47
January 28 2011 12:42 GMT
#28
Agreed :D
"You can make a throne on bayonets, but you can't sit on it" - Boris Yeltsen
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
January 28 2011 12:46 GMT
#29
seriously though if anyone can help me find a practice partner for him that would be amazing
brood war for life, brood war forever
SegataSan
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia17 Posts
January 28 2011 12:52 GMT
#30
On January 28 2011 21:46 Crunchums wrote:
seriously though if anyone can help me find a practice partner for him that would be amazing


Has he thought about asking people in his social circle? School friends or team mates? He might be surprised where he finds people to partner up with.
I found mine through work in an odd discussion that uncovered an underground coven of gamers. Was taken back by it actually. Some of them and their demographics shocked me.
"You can make a throne on bayonets, but you can't sit on it" - Boris Yeltsen
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
January 28 2011 13:01 GMT
#31
On January 28 2011 21:52 SegataSan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2011 21:46 Crunchums wrote:
seriously though if anyone can help me find a practice partner for him that would be amazing


Has he thought about asking people in his social circle? School friends or team mates? He might be surprised where he finds people to partner up with.
I found mine through work in an odd discussion that uncovered an underground coven of gamers. Was taken back by it actually. Some of them and their demographics shocked me.

He is not very good with people and as such does not have very many friends. Also I am hesitant to potentially cause problems (with parents) by trying to get 11 year olds to play a T for Teen game.
brood war for life, brood war forever
N1ghtmare
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany14 Posts
January 28 2011 13:05 GMT
#32
On January 28 2011 21:46 Crunchums wrote:
seriously though if anyone can help me find a practice partner for him that would be amazing



i could ask my best friend,hes 18 he NEVER played sc without cheats, or his lil brother,which is 12 who did actually played without cheats but both players have a good knowledge of the mechanic and the units,so they probably even eat your brother too. saldy.




i can really hard try to not win, like playing with zerglings only, or things like this.

but i guess that wont work,not because i doint want to lose more because i am just not used to lose because i want to lose(i am a ladder wh***)
Dont worry,the world wont go under today,because on the other side of our planet,its already tomorrow
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9508 Posts
January 28 2011 13:30 GMT
#33
Awesome blog!
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luKrek
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden15 Posts
January 28 2011 14:30 GMT
#34
I'm teaching my 2 year old brother the Banelings-song, and how Husky is.
It's a work in progress ^^
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 15:52:28
January 28 2011 15:51 GMT
#35
I remember being 12-13 and super addicted to Starcraft. There's just something captivating about that game. I couldn't explain why I loved it, I just kinda did. I played it all the time and I just couldn't explain to my bro (3 years older) why it was so amazing. Yeah, he liked the game but didn't LOVE it like I did, and it wasn't until I entered university and found out about the pro-gaming scene that I was able to convince my bro that SC is awesome. It's not surprising to me that a kid, even nowadays with the Halos and Gears or whatever would be absolutely hypnotized by the awesomeness of BW, despite how bad it looks relative to other games out there right now. There's just something satisfying with your screen shaking from the sound of siege tanks killing dragoons. Everything, from the sound effects to killing a base to moving units across a bridge just feels really satisfying in that game

On January 28 2011 17:26 vectorix108 wrote:
Sounds so cool. I wish I had a brother to teach how to play. I only have a 6-year old
sister -_- (I'm 18)


Hey! Blamous is getting his 4 year old daughter into SC2!
Trucy Wright is hot
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3128 Posts
January 28 2011 16:16 GMT
#36
Ya I play with my little brother all the time. He mostly just loves making maps but when I come home from college we always play on 4 player iccup maps. He's a zerg so I give him two zerg ai allies and usually I lose about 80% of the games becuase he always does some weird ass strategy that is completly absurd (like plauge dropping my depots while i'm defending the ai attack and then dropping upgraded lings into my base). The only way I could kill him is by attacking him early on and bunkering up to hold off the ai but I always shift tab so all of the enemy zergs appear as red and sometimes he mimicks the ai's build orders at the opening of the game so that it is impposible to tell which are he spawned at.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Raii
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines194 Posts
January 28 2011 17:34 GMT
#37
My brother can be a practice partner for your brother, but I think the skill difference between them is way too big :| Idk though. I might be willing to throw some games just to help him improve
Interesting comeback. How long did it take you make one?
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
January 28 2011 17:43 GMT
#38
Nice man. Last year, I gave my old computer to my 9 yr old brother when I went off to college and to my surprise, he started playing bw and beat the campaign. He's gotten a bit better but he finds playing surf maps in cs and 4v4's in sc2 a bit more fun.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
January 28 2011 18:14 GMT
#39
On January 29 2011 01:16 puppykiller wrote:
Ya I play with my little brother all the time. He mostly just loves making maps but when I come home from college we always play on 4 player iccup maps. He's a zerg so I give him two zerg ai allies and usually I lose about 80% of the games becuase he always does some weird ass strategy that is completly absurd (like plauge dropping my depots while i'm defending the ai attack and then dropping upgraded lings into my base). The only way I could kill him is by attacking him early on and bunkering up to hold off the ai but I always shift tab so all of the enemy zergs appear as red and sometimes he mimicks the ai's build orders at the opening of the game so that it is impposible to tell which are he spawned at.


That's really cool. Do you know if he mimics the AI on purpose to fool you, or is that just what he does?
Trucy Wright is hot
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3128 Posts
January 29 2011 19:16 GMT
#40
On January 29 2011 03:14 Purind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2011 01:16 puppykiller wrote:
Ya I play with my little brother all the time. He mostly just loves making maps but when I come home from college we always play on 4 player iccup maps. He's a zerg so I give him two zerg ai allies and usually I lose about 80% of the games becuase he always does some weird ass strategy that is completly absurd (like plauge dropping my depots while i'm defending the ai attack and then dropping upgraded lings into my base). The only way I could kill him is by attacking him early on and bunkering up to hold off the ai but I always shift tab so all of the enemy zergs appear as red and sometimes he mimicks the ai's build orders at the opening of the game so that it is impposible to tell which are he spawned at.


That's really cool. Do you know if he mimics the AI on purpose to fool you, or is that just what he does?



Ya he does it on purpous to make his base unobvious so when I move out to attack I cant take him out first and win (if I take an ai out first I usually die becuase he'll make like 7 hatches and mass upgraded lings). Of course I can always tell which units are his becuase they move really sloppily and dont react right away when I attack them :p
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
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