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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
Sc2 is still a baby. Suckling its moms boobs. Its older brother bw is a shit load more mature. You and others rant about how shitty a 6 month old game is, when you compare it to a game that has more than a decade behind it. Its quite frankly ridiculous what you are expecting. Give it time. Be patient. Bw wasnt built in a day. There were times that bw had just as much shit and geuss what? Bw is awesome. I have some advice for you guys... If sc2 is so shitty: DONT PLAY IT. You know what? This to me is basically a well covered up balance whine. Why else would you keep playing? You actually like sc2. You just wont admit it until your race gets sufficiently buffed. After that you will be bursting with delight at how awesome sc2 is. How can you honestly say you are dissapointed? Its a new game! New exiting mechanics, new units new gameplay and more. A single player campaign with more interesting and original gameplay than any other r.t.s game before it. If you ask me, it blew any other rts before it out of the water even with its shitty story. Instead of bitching and finding fault, look at what makes it a great game and apreciate it. If you cant do that sell me your account and go play broodwar | ||
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BarneyEX
Malaysia98 Posts
Instead of bitching and finding fault, look at what makes it a great game and apreciate it. Battle.net 2.0 makes me learn how to appreciate broodwar even more | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On January 27 2011 20:32 eu.exodus wrote: i never really understood this whole idea. Sc2 is still a baby. Suckling its moms boobs. Its older brother bw is a shit load more mature. You and others rant about how shitty a 6 month old game is, when you compare it to a game that has more than a decade behind it. Its quite frankly ridiculous what you are expecting. Give it time. Be patient. Bw wasnt built in a day. There were times that bw had just as much shit and geuss what? Bw is awesome. I have some advice for you guys... If sc2 is so shitty: DONT PLAY IT. You know what? This to me is basically a well covered up balance whine. Why else would you keep playing? You actually like sc2. You just wont admit it until your race gets sufficiently buffed. After that you will be bursting with delight at how awesome sc2 is. How can you honestly say you are dissapointed? Its a new game! New exiting mechanics, new units new gameplay and more. A single player campaign with more interesting and original gameplay than any other r.t.s game before it. If you ask me, it blew any other rts before it out of the water even with its shitty story. Instead of bitching and finding fault, look at what makes it a great game and apreciate it. If you cant do that sell me your account and go play broodwar wrong. Wrong old excuse that has been rebutted but many times. 6 months is more then enough for blizzard to show some kind of effort towards balancing it. Alas | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
Anything more is just for lols. If you feel you must cry/whine/bitch send and email to blizzard because around here you arent achieving anything. Nobody exept other people who cant win feel sympathy for you. Its getting so old and cliche. Like teenage girls moaning about boys. Do you have any idea what i imagine you voice to sound like when i read this shit? A mixture of Fran Dreshner and Wendy on south park. I honestly cant imagine it sounding any other way. | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On January 27 2011 20:58 randomKo_Orean wrote: Oh, I just looked @ exodus's post. I feel exactly the same way as OP, yet I don't play a race, so it's clearly not that he's whining because of balance, is he? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM TL is full of whiny brats and arrogant dicks from SC2 now, in which both refuses to listen to anything. Zerg getting buffed isn't the problem. op said something about zerg tears? Edit: why the nostalgia then? Its not like bw is obsolete. Sc2 is not brood war. It will never be. If you miss it, play it. If not play sc2. If bw is better for you thats your opinion and i dont hold that against you, i am also not trying to convert you to sc2 or reject your opinion of bw. What i am saying is that threads like this saying how wonderful bw war and how shitty sc2 is are useless. | ||
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Akuemon
Canada151 Posts
On January 27 2011 20:58 randomKo_Orean wrote: Oh, I just looked @ exodus's post. I feel exactly the same way as OP, yet I don't play a race, so it's clearly not that he's whining because of balance, is he? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM TL is full of whiny brats and arrogant dicks from SC2 now, in which both refuses to listen to anything. Zerg getting buffed isn't the problem. I feel the same way >.> I read countless people saying "stfu your just complaining about imbalance" | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
On January 27 2011 20:58 randomKo_Orean wrote: Oh, I just looked @ exodus's post. I feel exactly the same way as OP, yet I don't play a race, so it's clearly not that he's whining because of balance, is he? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM TL is full of whiny brats and arrogant dicks from SC2 now, in which both refuses to listen to anything. Zerg getting buffed isn't the problem. Doesn't help that they're soo vocal about it too. -_- | ||
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TelecoM
United States10847 Posts
I actually just had to come to grips with reality as well, I have played SC2 since the beginning of the beta, and now after close to 10 thousand games ( Yes , i have played that many games, including the games I played in beta, up till now. ) , I just do not have the same drive, motivation, and willpower to continue to play the game, I know what most of you are thinking ( This guy probably plays zerg since his name is GGzerG ). Well yes I do play zerg in SC2, but I Started as Terran, then played protoss, and then started playing zerg ( because of the macro mechanics ) , Sure at the moment I do not believe that the game is balanced, I don't think it's horribly balanced, but hell...I know I will probably get alot of flaming for this but I am just going to be honest , as a player who's highest ladder points were about 3k at one point, and masters now ( i know thats not pro or top tier either ) , I strongly believe that this game is much harder for zerg than it is for terran and protoss. I do not want to derail the thread and keep rambling on about balance because that is not the point I am trying to make, although I don't think the game should be easier for 2 out of the 3 races, and yes I say that with passion and complete honesty even though I really dont want to get flamed, that I'm a strong believer that Zerg is the hardest race to play, and I'm sure many will agree with me. Star Craft 2 does not have the AMAZING dynamics that Brood War has, the almost unlimited potential you can have IF you have the APM and mastered the control of mutalisks, the possibilities are almost endless in the combinations, co ordinates and control that you can accomplish when you have mastered the art of mutalisk micro, and this being said, that is just one of the many amazing things that BroodWar has to offer, when was the last time you watched a ZvT and the Zerg player won solely with mutalisks ( when the Terran was not horrible ) , because of the fact that his mutalisk micro / control was simply unbelievable? Sure , I've seen some amazing mutalisk micro, and even some amazing micro with a lot of other units, but nothing can compare to the multitasking and sheer absolute amazing control of units and possibilities that were available in Brood War, the possibilities are endless in Brood War, and in SC2 they just are not. In my opinion the game is extremely repetitive , and the possibilities are not endless, and thats why the repetition will continue. I normally would not write so much but the OP's post truly inspired me to tell how i feel 100%, OP I couldn't have explained what you wrote any better than yourself, and you took the words right out of my head. So many people got SC2 in hopes that it would bring them back to the gaming nostalgia that they loved which was earned on BroodWar. eu.exodus , the WORST argument that anyone can ever bring to these forums in my opinion is " SC2 is NOT brood war . it will never be . if you miss it, play it, if not play sc2. " ..... like wow man, are you that simple minded? In defense of whoever you are slinging this negativity at, Star Craft 2 is not brood war, * BUT * Star Craft 2 is Star Craft, Do you understand that? In my honest opinion, I think Star Craft 2 should resemble Brood War in some way shape or form, and at the moment it does not, except for the fact that there is Zerg, Terran, and Protoss. I hope to god that SC2 is like vanilla SC1 and the game totally changes when expansions come out, and it saves SC2. But at the moment I am also in the extremely dissapointed crowd. Like I said before up top, I have played atleast 10K games since beta, and I have come to the point where I cannot keep pushing myself to play anymore, I simply do not get near the same enjoyment, and I think a lot of Brood War veterans ( played 10 + years ) feel the same. For me the balance isnt necessarily the problem , I don't think it is horribly imbalanced, It just becomes extremely boring for me to try to force myself to continue to play, something that I never had a problem with when playing BW. Star Craft 2 is Star Craft, and Brood War is Star Craft...the only problem is that Star Craft 2 is nothing like Brood War...as for me, It's time to get some of that BW nostalgia back...i'll see you on USWest / iCCup... I'm sorry I wrote so much, but this is just an extremely important and touchy subject for me, I apologize if I offended anyone with this post, as it was not meant to offend anyone, it is just meant to reflect my opinion as well, which was inspired by the OP. OP I wish you the best of luck and I hope that you find what you are looking for. ( the next awesome game to play ) | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On January 27 2011 21:37 Gao Xi wrote: Doesn't help that they're soo vocal about it too. -_- no it does help it's pseudo neutral people like yourself who don't. Granted yea i whine a lot about balance because tis so horribly shitty but it's not even about the proverbial me when you look at the big picture, its about the spectators who don't want to watch a boring TvT over and over and over again. The game will die as a esport if all we will ever see are TvTs. I'm sure ID software could make a balanced strategy if there was only 1 race>< | ||
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potatomash3r
Australia417 Posts
On January 27 2011 16:28 flyinfart wrote: Starcraft 2 isn't fun. I don't think its totally devoid of fun, there are moments of enjoyment when you don't take it too seriously but compared to BW it pales in comparison on pure fun factor. My friends and I even went to a cyber cafe just to play sc1 again just like the old days and that was way more fun than any sc2 game we had before. For me the problem is the spell casters, they just don't have enough 'kick' compared to sc1 where a single dark swarm or static field could change the tide of battle. Also, shit in sc2 die too fast and macro is waaaaay too easy. Though, I have hope that it will change. Playing the game a lot less has helped me find the 'joy' in sc2. I don't know whether this is a good or bad thing, but for me its currently the only way I could enjoy sc2 which was to limit my time and effort in it. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Played through the campaign. Contrary to some views, I felt that the plot was mediocre at worst, engaging in some. I honestly struggled whether to please the doctor or the alien sexy. After finishing the campaign, I felt like I've got enough for the money's worth. Then I played on bnet. Didn't quite feel like playing. Lots of redundant strategies, super-hard-counters (wtf immortals?), gay maps (sorry I really couldn't think of another word to describe it), bla bla bla. So then I went back to my old favourite, SCBW. Still love it. Still play it. So now I've got a few too many games on my desktop. SCBW, D2, W3, SC2, NWN1, NWN2, MS, Cabal, Sims 2, SimCity 4. Not to mention that Freecell is my all-time favourite Windows-default game. I don't think I'll be touching SC2 again anytime soon... I'd rather be Freecell-ing. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
could u stop this "SCII VANILLA > SC VANILLA"? fuck yes.. it should be like that... would be god damn emberassing for blizzard if SCII vanilla would be worse then a 13 year old vanilla game. this "OMG ITS NEW." is no argument.. SC had no 13 years of esports background like SCII had. SCII takes advantage of all the stuff happened before it.. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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chongu
Malaysia2603 Posts
srsly, screw chat channels, little stars on badges and purposefully delaying updates with minor changes to gameplay. Other than that, I still love you Blizzard.... you're like my second mom | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1979 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3720 Posts
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JiSu
Korea (South)140 Posts
On January 27 2011 21:59 GGzerG wrote: eu.exodus maybe you are failing to realize that Star Craft 2 is Star Craft, and even though Star Craft 2 is not Brood War, it is still STAR CRAFT. It is the freaking second Star Craft, so shouldn't it be somewhat similar to how the predecessor was? In some way shape or form? I honestly think that if the game played a little more like its predecessor, that it would be all the more beneficial for the game, and players. The problem IMO is that SC2 is nothing like Brood War, in Star Craft 2, "ALL INNING " is extremely viable, in almost every game, in almost every match up, I do not believe that the game punishes you enough for ' All Inning ", so I also think that this is one of the major faults with the game. I actually just had to come to grips with reality as well, I have played SC2 since the beginning of the beta, and now after close to 10 thousand games ( Yes , i have played that many games, including the games I played in beta, up till now. ) , I just do not have the same drive, motivation, and willpower to continue to play the game, I know what most of you are thinking ( This guy probably plays zerg since his name is GGzerG ). Well yes I do play zerg in SC2, but I Started as Terran, then played protoss, and then started playing zerg ( because of the macro mechanics ) , Sure at the moment I do not believe that the game is balanced, I don't think it's horribly balanced, but hell...I know I will probably get alot of flaming for this but I am just going to be honest , as a player who's highest ladder points were about 3k at one point, and masters now ( i know thats not pro or top tier either ) , I strongly believe that this game is much harder for zerg than it is for terran and protoss. I do not want to derail the thread and keep rambling on about balance because that is not the point I am trying to make, although I don't think the game should be easier for 2 out of the 3 races, and yes I say that with passion and complete honesty even though I really dont want to get flamed, that I'm a strong believer that Zerg is the hardest race to play, and I'm sure many will agree with me. Star Craft 2 does not have the AMAZING dynamics that Brood War has, the almost unlimited potential you can have IF you have the APM and mastered the control of mutalisks, the possibilities are almost endless in the combinations, co ordinates and control that you can accomplish when you have mastered the art of mutalisk micro, and this being said, that is just one of the many amazing things that BroodWar has to offer, when was the last time you watched a ZvT and the Zerg player won solely with mutalisks ( when the Terran was not horrible ) , because of the fact that his mutalisk micro / control was simply unbelievable? Sure , I've seen some amazing mutalisk micro, and even some amazing micro with a lot of other units, but nothing can compare to the multitasking and sheer absolute amazing control of units and possibilities that were available in Brood War, the possibilities are endless in Brood War, and in SC2 they just are not. In my opinion the game is extremely repetitive , and the possibilities are not endless, and thats why the repetition will continue. I normally would not write so much but the OP's post truly inspired me to tell how i feel 100%, OP I couldn't have explained what you wrote any better than yourself, and you took the words right out of my head. So many people got SC2 in hopes that it would bring them back to the gaming nostalgia that they loved which was earned on BroodWar. eu.exodus , the WORST argument that anyone can ever bring to these forums in my opinion is " SC2 is NOT brood war . it will never be . if you miss it, play it, if not play sc2. " ..... like wow man, are you that simple minded? In defense of whoever you are slinging this negativity at, Star Craft 2 is not brood war, * BUT * Star Craft 2 is Star Craft, Do you understand that? In my honest opinion, I think Star Craft 2 should resemble Brood War in some way shape or form, and at the moment it does not, except for the fact that there is Zerg, Terran, and Protoss. I hope to god that SC2 is like vanilla SC1 and the game totally changes when expansions come out, and it saves SC2. But at the moment I am also in the extremely dissapointed crowd. Like I said before up top, I have played atleast 10K games since beta, and I have come to the point where I cannot keep pushing myself to play anymore, I simply do not get near the same enjoyment, and I think a lot of Brood War veterans ( played 10 + years ) feel the same. For me the balance isnt necessarily the problem , I don't think it is horribly imbalanced, It just becomes extremely boring for me to try to force myself to continue to play, something that I never had a problem with when playing BW. Star Craft 2 is Star Craft, and Brood War is Star Craft...the only problem is that Star Craft 2 is nothing like Brood War...as for me, It's time to get some of that BW nostalgia back...i'll see you on USWest / iCCup... I'm sorry I wrote so much, but this is just an extremely important and touchy subject for me, I apologize if I offended anyone with this post, as it was not meant to offend anyone, it is just meant to reflect my opinion as well, which was inspired by the OP. OP I wish you the best of luck and I hope that you find what you are looking for. ( the next awesome game to play ) I agree with you that SC2 is still SC. But the game was just released like 6 months ago. Look at BW 6 months after its release, was it balanced? Fuck no, it didn't get balanced until like around 2000 2001. So just give SC2 some time and watch how the game will evolve. But you know why SC2 is different from SC and you feel like zerg is the hardest race to play? Because of its mechanics. SC2 was made much more noob friendly, including the mechanics of the game. For instance, in SC2 you can group as many units as you can in 1 group. In BW, you can only group 12 units at a time. Now, this is a HUGE difference. It required a lot of controls and APMs. Another example. You can rally your SCVs/drones/probes to the mineral patches and start mining for instance in SC2. In BW you couldn't do that. You'd rally your workers somewhere close and MANUALLY control it to the mineral patch, which requires more controls. Everything in BW required more controls, so a lot of APMs were required. That's why the learning curve for BW was much harder than SC2. That's why Koreans don't like SC2 much. It is too easy, not much variations. Another reason is that if you look at Korean players, they have much higher APMs than foreigners for the most part, so if the mechanics were like BW, I'm sure foreigners would get raped. SC2 was made easy to be honest in my opinion was because Blizzard wanted SC2 to be competitive around the world, instead of just Korea. If the game requires like 300 something APM to perfectly control everything, I don't think you'll see any foreigners in the SC2 scene to be honest with you. | ||
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